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Looking to rebuild my nas with larger drives. I'm currently looking at these but the "8 bay" limit thing seems weird. Normally I wouldn't think anything of it since it's just a hard drive but, figured I'd ask people. Any harm if I use these drives in something larger than 8 bays? Using Freenas ZFS

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So I don't know for sure but I imagine it's one of those liability things. You probably could run more than 8 drives but WD probably only validated their stability in an 8 bay enclosure. So if you do I would just be cautious of vibration and heat, I think. Definitely vibration.

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Im guessing they have some higher tier thing that they want to sell you

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Im guessing they have some higher tier thing that they want to sell you

Yes, there are "Red Pros" that support 16 drives.

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What makes them different that one model supports a specific number of drives? They're all on for the same amount of time, storing the same data...

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Vibration effects hard drives. Hard drives spin, causing vibration. The more drives you have, the more vibration.

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I would wait for @Captain_WD to chime in - he can provide some more details about Red vs Red Pro, and why they chose an 8 bay limit for the Reds - but I do believe it comes down to the Red Pros having better physical hardware to withstand more vibrations.

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There's two HUGE reasons to go with Red Pro over the standard Red

 

Red:

 

Non-recoverable read errors per bits read <1 in 10^14

Limited warranty (years) 3

 

Red Pro:

 

Non-recoverable read errors per bits read <1 in 10^15

Limited warranty (years) 5

 

 

Nearly double the warranty and an order of magnitude less likely to have a non recoverable read error.

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Hey there Method (I just love the profile pic!) :)
 
Regular WD Red drives are designed and tested to work in environments with up to 8 drives in the drive pool. They are designed for regular consumer NAS and RAID setups and are recommended for usage in up to 8 in the same enclosure. You can find more info about them here: http://products.wdc.com/support/kb.ashx?id=
 
For larger number of drives I would recommend checking out WD Red Pro drives. They are designed and manufactured for up to 16 drives in the drive pool, have higher rpm, transfer speeds and longer warranty. Having more drives in the same anclosure naturally increases the vibrations and the heat levels and thus more safety measures are needed. WD Red Pro has better vibration protection and has some additional features over the regular WD Red that ensure better safety in denser drive pools. Here's some more info on this drive: http://products.wdc.com/support/kb.ashx?id=
 
For even larger drive pools I would recommend checking the enterprise-level drives. :)
 
Thanks @brwainer for mentioning :)
 
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Hey there Method (I just love the profile pic!) :)
 
Regular WD Red drives are designed and tested to work in environments with up to 8 drives in the drive pool. They are designed for regular consumer NAS and RAID setups and are recommended for usage in up to 8 in the same enclosure. You can find more info about them here: http://products.wdc.com/support/kb.ashx?id=
 
For larger number of drives I would recommend checking out WD Red Pro drives. They are designed and manufactured for up to 16 drives in the drive pool, have higher rpm, transfer speeds and longer warranty. Having more drives in the same anclosure naturally increases the vibrations and the heat levels and thus more safety measures are needed. WD Red Pro has better vibration protection and has some additional features over the regular WD Red that ensure better safety in denser drive pools. Here's some more info on this drive: http://products.wdc.com/support/kb.ashx?id=
 
For even larger drive pools I would recommend checking the enterprise-level drives. :)
 
Thanks @brwainer for mentioning :)
 
Captain_WD.

 

 

Thanks for the response! Your avatar is pretty great too!

 

This is good information, as I'll likely be needed both types of drives down the road (regular reds for home nas with 6 bays, red pros for work)

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