2 Gamers, 1 CPU - Virtualized Gaming Build Log

[LinusTech]

Ever thought to yourself - My computer is so powerful that it could conceivably run TWO copies of this game.. How would I do that? Well, here's the answer, friends!

 

Vessel: https://www.vessel.com/videos/V0Gjb9_OL

YouTube:

 

 

Cooler Master Master Case 5

Amazon: http://geni.us/49pd

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1K3CVzF

 

Cooler Master V850 Power Supply

Amazon: http://geni.us/3Vb7

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1GDRMAM

 

Intel 5960X CPU

Amazon: http://geni.us/1nya

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1fNNdwA

 

ASUS X99 Deluxe

Amazon: http://geni.us/14q3

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1G8grT7

 

Nvidia Titan X

Amazon: http://geni.us/3AQ2

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1BNzb4D

 

NVIDIA GTX 980 Ti

Amazon: http://geni.us/lDd

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1LJa9vK

 

Intel 730 Series SSD

Amazon: http://geni.us/3f27

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1jqcGxT

 

Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 RAM

Amazon: http://geni.us/2y54

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1Qkp8tK

 

Seagate Barracuda HDD

Amazon: http://geni.us/2kBD

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1PpnRn0

 

Lime Technology unRAID Server Pro: http://lime-technology.com/

[MegaDave91]

Have my babys, Linus.

[Chasem121]

[dragoon20005]

speaking of the parts you use

 

I do know Luke and you have reviewed the MasterCase 5

 

any news if there will be a larger version of the case which supports 3 or 4 way GPU configs?

 

am i seeing things but i see a 980ti and the titan X in the rig

[dark_xzyph3r]

Ever thought to yourself - My computer is so powerful that it could conceivably run TWO copies of this game.. How would I do that? Well, here's the answer, friends!

 

Vessel: https://www.vessel.com/videos/V0Gjb9_OL

YouTube: TBD

 

 

Cooler Master Master Case 5

Amazon: http://geni.us/49pd

 

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1K3CVzF

 

Cooler Master V850 Power Supply

Amazon: http://geni.us/3Vb7

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1GDRMAM

 

Intel 5960X CPU

Amazon: http://geni.us/1nya

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1fNNdwA

 

ASUS X99 Deluxe

Amazon: http://geni.us/14q3

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1G8grT7

 

Nvidia Titan X

Amazon: http://geni.us/3AQ2

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1BNzb4D

 

NVIDIA GTX 980 Ti

Amazon: http://geni.us/lDd

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1LJa9vK

 

Intel 730 Series SSD

Amazon: http://geni.us/3f27

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1jqcGxT

 

Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 RAM

Amazon: http://geni.us/2y54

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1Qkp8tK

 

Seagate Barracuda HDD

Amazon: http://geni.us/2kBD

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1PpnRn0

 

Lime Technology unRAID Server Pro: http://lime-technology.com/

 

I did something like this just recently, I was running VMWare ESXI 6.0 and had Passed through a GFX card per system (IE: 1 GFX card if I was just doing one system and 2 if I wanted 2 systems) and it was almost lag free (I think it was about 2-3 Ms delay. It was pretty great.

[I need a better name]

ur sexy linus

[Lolucoca]

That's why I have 2 PCs... Both are not powerful...

PC 1:

i7 6700k

32GB DDR4-2133

GTX 980

PC 2:

FX 8320

16GB DDR3-1333

GTX 750

Gross.

[Maleko]

Just found my next case....

[C0LL0SS0S]

Nice video but the install part was kinda boring, though if I would wanted to replicate it I would enjoy it.  Finally a LTT like video and not some BS

[SlaiN]

Ever thought to yourself - My computer is so powerful that it could conceivably run TWO copies of this game.. How would I do that? Well, here's the answer, friends!

 

Vessel: https://www.vessel.com/videos/V0Gjb9_OL

YouTube: TBD

 

 

Cooler Master Master Case 5

Amazon: http://geni.us/49pd

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1K3CVzF

 

Cooler Master V850 Power Supply

Amazon: http://geni.us/3Vb7

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1GDRMAM

 

Intel 5960X CPU

Amazon: http://geni.us/1nya

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1fNNdwA

 

ASUS X99 Deluxe

Amazon: http://geni.us/14q3

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1G8grT7

 

Nvidia Titan X

Amazon: http://geni.us/3AQ2

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1BNzb4D

 

NVIDIA GTX 980 Ti

Amazon: http://geni.us/lDd

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1LJa9vK

 

Intel 730 Series SSD

Amazon: http://geni.us/3f27

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1jqcGxT

 

Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 RAM

Amazon: http://geni.us/2y54

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1Qkp8tK

 

Seagate Barracuda HDD

Amazon: http://geni.us/2kBD

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1PpnRn0

 

Lime Technology unRAID Server Pro: http://lime-technology.com/

 

 

Could you specify the accessories used?!

Like the mouse and stuff...

[TopWargamer]

I legit did not think this was possible... At all... So freaking cool! Definitely a project I would love to do sometime down the road.

[LinusTech]

Could you specify the accessories used?!

Like the mouse and stuff...

That doesn't really matter. You can use whatever you like as long as they aren't the same as each other.

In more advanced configurations you can pass through us controllers to the virtual machines and avoid this issue but this guide was intended to cover the basics.

[leadeater]

 

Ever thought to yourself - My computer is so powerful that it could conceivably run TWO copies of this game.. How would I do that? Well, here's the answer, friends!

 

Vessel: https://www.vessel.com/videos/V0Gjb9_OL

YouTube: TBD

 

 

Cooler Master Master Case 5

Amazon: http://geni.us/49pd

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1K3CVzF

 

Cooler Master V850 Power Supply

Amazon: http://geni.us/3Vb7

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1GDRMAM

 

Intel 5960X CPU

Amazon: http://geni.us/1nya

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1fNNdwA

 

ASUS X99 Deluxe

Amazon: http://geni.us/14q3

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1G8grT7

 

Nvidia Titan X

Amazon: http://geni.us/3AQ2

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1BNzb4D

 

NVIDIA GTX 980 Ti

Amazon: http://geni.us/lDd

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1LJa9vK

 

Intel 730 Series SSD

Amazon: http://geni.us/3f27

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1jqcGxT

 

Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 RAM

Amazon: http://geni.us/2y54

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1Qkp8tK

 

Seagate Barracuda HDD

Amazon: http://geni.us/2kBD

NCIX: http://bit.ly/1PpnRn0

 

Lime Technology unRAID Server Pro: http://lime-technology.com/

 

This is also possible using Windows Server Hyper-V with RemoteFX. Software cost is higher but hardware cost can be lower as you can share the GPU and CPU cycles rather than having to split them between VMs. It's also much easier to setup and the mentioned USB provisos with unRAID are not an issue.

 

I had a good tinker with this back in Server 2008 R2 with an AMD 6970 running 2 Windows 7 VMs playing NFS Shift 2. Used this game as it would show up input issues really fast. Worked great with both games running 60~ fps from memory, was while ago so testing me memory. Windows Server 2012 R2 does a better job now too, was actually thinking about setting up again.

 

Interesting video though, loved seeing a similar goal achieved in a different way.

[SlaiN]

That doesn't really matter. You can use whatever you like as long as they aren't the same as each other.

In more advanced configurations you can pass through us controllers to the virtual machines and avoid this issue but this guide was intended to cover the basics.

Lol...I just wanted to know in general, not in regard to the build!

Really cool video btw....would have taken a lot of research to advise the audience exactly what to and what not to do.

[themaniac]

this is going to be interesting

[nilssab]

 

This is also possible using Windows Server Hyper-V with RemoteFX. Software cost is higher but hardware cost can be lower as you can share the GPU and CPU cycles rather than having to split them between VMs. It's also much easier to setup and the mentioned USB provisos with unRAID are not an issue.

 

I had a good tinker with this back in Server 2008 R2 with an AMD 6970 running 2 Windows 7 VMs playing NFS Shift 2. Used this game as it would show up input issues really fast. Worked great with both games running 60~ fps from memory, was while ago so testing me memory. Windows Server 2012 R2 does a better job now too, was actually thinking about setting up again.

 

Interesting video though, loved seeing a similar goal achieved in a different way.

 

 

That sounds expensive.

 

I'd prefer doing it manually in linux though, instead of unRaid. Because it would teach me so much more about how the system works, and I'd get a much better understanding of what I need to do when something goes wrong.

 

Also, the main reason that I would consider doing this is because I might want to play DX12 games, but I do NOT want to install win 10 directly on to my system. With this I can have a virtual Win 10 system while running some linux distro as the main OS. I really really want to get myself a second rig to set it up on, because I don't expect it'll be a quick process to get everything working.

 

It would be so awesome to have a Bedrock linux system running with ubuntu/arch/gentoo system stacks, and a gimped win 10 on top of that with a separate GPU.  

[Anglovonsyntezer]

Damn this is an interesting concept. Also, a little slip up in the editing at 12:44 or so "no s*** it was vdisks".

[DaiGurenMK42]

Linus thank you for showing something meangingful on the channel again. I was beginning to loose hope. THIS IS AWESOME!! I would totally want to try this except run one machine as an HTPC while the other runs freenas/or something else for home server. unRaid is epic, I wish I had cash for a new rig now. Is using unRaid viable for for a full home server option? Like 2-3 home computers running of it, or is there more advanced software for this? unRaid seems really user friendly compared to some other industry offerings, is it a new company?

[ThinkWithPortals]

Oh yes. I'm hyped for this, very interesting concept.

[Altecice]

Nice video, but a few things are bothering me about it.

 

• Don't pay for the Lime Tech Unraid server, just get the FREE copy of KVM. No point in paying for something that's free (Unraid is just running KVM).
• I noticed in the video you have changed your DNS to Googles DNS... why? No point in doing that on end devices, I then noticed that you had to use the server IP to connect to the web console. The reason you had to do this was because it's now not contacting your local DNS server (aka your Router), it's now contacting Googles DNS.

A question for you Linus, did you have any Input lag at all? If the motherboard has split USB controllers you can pass through each of them and get 0 input lag.

[wpirobotbuilder]

I did something like this just recently, I was running VMWare ESXI 6.0 and had Passed through a GFX card per system (IE: 1 GFX card if I was just doing one system and 2 if I wanted 2 systems) and it was almost lag free (I think it was about 2-3 Ms delay. It was pretty great.

Likewise. My kids' computers will all be like this -- just an HDMI and USB port in the wall, connected somewhere else.

[dark_xzyph3r]

Likewise. My kids' computers will all be like this -- just an HDMI and USB port in the wall, connected somewhere else.

Yeah when I move out of my apartment ima do that also, I read somewhere you can use cat6 cable for USB and stuff, I think you just use it as the wire and have ports on either end..

[limetechjon]

Linus thank you for showing something meangingful on the channel again. I was beginning to loose hope. THIS IS AWESOME!! I would totally want to try this except run one machine as an HTPC while the other runs freenas/or something else for home server. unRaid is epic, I wish I had cash for a new rig now. Is using unRaid viable for for a full home server option? Like 2-3 home computers running of it, or is there more advanced software for this? unRaid seems really user friendly compared to some other industry offerings, is it a new company?

 

We actually have built-in support for OpenELEC as another VM in unRAID.  It's even easier to setup than Windows 10, because you don't need to download anything in advance.  You select the OpenELEC template option in the webGui for unRAID and a download button appears that will download the ~ 292MB virtual image you need for it.  Assign some CPUs and a GPU (and any input devices if you desire) and fire it up!  You could also install SteamOS on there, although we don't have a guide up for the specifics on doing that yet.

 

The idea of unRAID is to have a NAS, virtualization host, and application server inside the same rig, then allow users to partition their system resources accordingly.  With high-end hardware as capable as what Linus showed, you have more horsepower than room to gallop, so let's find a way to make use of those ponies!

[limetechjon]

Nice video, but a few things are bothering me about it.

 

• Don't pay for the Lime Tech Unraid server, just get the FREE copy of KVM. No point in paying for something that's free (Unraid is just running KVM).
• I noticed in the video you have changed your DNS to Googles DNS... why? No point in doing that on end devices, I then noticed that you had to use the server IP to connect to the web console. The reason you had to do this was because it's now not contacting your local DNS server (aka your Router), it's now contacting Googles DNS.

A question for you Linus, did you have any Input lag at all? If the motherboard has split USB controllers you can pass through each of them and get 0 input lag.

 

Yes, unRAID is a paid-product and yes the virtualization technology we use (KVM) is open-source.  If you were so inclined, you could download a Linux distro, add all the software packages necessary for virtualization, and have your way at it.  The problem is there are lots of quirks to the kernel / distro / packages required to increase your chance of success with GPU pass through like this.  You also have to resort to using general purpose VM management tools that are a bit more complicated and cumbersome.

 

unRAID offers users the capabilities of a NAS, a virtualization host, and an application server all in the same package.  Our software manages storage devices in a unique way from standard software-defined arrays.  We use btrfs for our cache pool so that you can dynamically increase your storage over time by just adding more disks (as opposed to pre-defined RAID groups that cannot be modified once defined).  For our array storage, we use a parity-projected array with a union file system.  This means that there is no striping of data between multiple array disks.  This is why we offer the cache pool, because write performance after two devices in the array will drop a bit (30-50MB/s range).  The benefit is that if you lose more than 1 device, you don't actually lose all your data (like you would with a RAID 5).  Instead, you only lose the data on the devices you lost.  We provide fault-tolerance already for a single device (single parity), but we are adding dual-parity right now for an upcoming release.  The union file system makes it so that when browsing over the network, you just drop files into a "share" which could technically spread across multiple disks, but you'll see the aggregate view of all the data in that "share" for all the disks that participate with it.  Then if you were to look at any individual disk, you could still see and read individual files off those disks as well (because we don't stripe data).

 

We are trying to make all of this really cool technology much more accessible to a wider audience.  So while RYO (roll-your-own) NAS is definitely an option, if you want to get past the headache and jump right to the good stuff, our software cuts those corners for you.

[DaiGurenMK42]

We actually have built-in support for OpenELEC as another VM in unRAID.  It's even easier to setup than Windows 10, because you don't need to download anything in advance.  You select the OpenELEC template option in the webGui for unRAID and a download button appears that will download the ~ 292MB virtual image you need for it.  Assign some CPUs and a GPU (and any input devices if you desire) and fire it up!  You could also install SteamOS on there, although we don't have a guide up for the specifics on doing that yet.

 

The idea of unRAID is to have a NAS, virtualization host, and application server inside the same rig, then allow users to partition their system resources accordingly.  With high-end hardware as capable as what Linus showed, you have more horsepower than room to gallop, so let's find a way to make use of those ponies!

So basically what I want as a replacement for the my current home server/gaming/nas setup is basically what unRAID is designed for. That is perfect lol. It sucks I spent all my money on my current setup in August and I don't want to format my current drives since I don't have anything to back them all onto properly. unRaid for me will have to wait a couple years until I graduate. Can't wait to see how the setup process simplifies and improves itself after a couple years!