Skylake & Haswell-E PCIe lane misconception

[El Diablo]

13 hours ago, TheProfosist said:

Do i need to go over the bandwidth restriction of the DMI bus especially the now older 2.0 one found in more systems? What about the latency increase?

 

What are you going on about now? The DMI has a specific amount of bandwidth. Everything plugged into the chipset, no matter how many lanes the chipset has, utilize this bandwidth which. This bandwith is less than the number of lanes that the chipset has since they dont expect you to run multiple heavy load device through it. I have already been over this in this thread in relation to just a 950 Pro which alone nearly maxes out the DMI on reads.

 

why dont pci lanes affect anything?

 

even nvidia are tossing the pci lanes away and going with nvlink

[Arcilon Samogar Gumich]

1. Which one perfectly beast for gaming X99 or Z97 or Z170 ?
2. Which 1 important for CPU for gaming.?: benchmark score or cores or more cores or gaming Frame per second or walts or voltage or cinebench or load speed test or load boot desktop or more Ghz or less Ghz or what Intel support or Intel graphic or upgrade model Intel CPU ( LIKE. WOULD LIKE CHOOSE UPGRADE TO SKYLAKE OR HASWELL-E OR SANDY BRIDGE OR IVY BRIDGE .?) OR CHOOSING MODEL INTEL CPU ( LIKE. would like CHOOSE Intel 5860X extreme edition or 6700k ???? )

[Arcilon Samogar Gumich]

1. Which one perfectly beast for gaming X99 or Z97 or Z170 ?
2. Which 1 important for CPU for gaming.?: benchmark score or cores or more cores or gaming Frame per second or walts or voltage or cinebench or load speed test or load boot desktop or more Ghz or less Ghz or what Intel support or Intel graphic or upgrade model Intel CPU ( LIKE. WOULD LIKE CHOOSE UPGRADE TO SKYLAKE OR HASWELL-E OR SANDY BRIDGE OR IVY BRIDGE .?) OR CHOOSING MODEL INTEL CPU ( LIKE. would like CHOOSE Intel 5860X extreme edition or 6700k ???? )

[TheProfosist]

19 hours ago, Arcilon Samogar Gumich said:

1. Which one perfectly beast for gaming X99 or Z97 or Z170 ?
2. Which 1 important for CPU for gaming.?: benchmark score or cores or more cores or gaming Frame per second or walts or voltage or cinebench or load speed test or load boot desktop or more Ghz or less Ghz or what Intel support or Intel graphic or upgrade model Intel CPU ( LIKE. WOULD LIKE CHOOSE UPGRADE TO SKYLAKE OR HASWELL-E OR SANDY BRIDGE OR IVY BRIDGE .?) OR CHOOSING MODEL INTEL CPU ( LIKE. would like CHOOSE Intel 5860X extreme edition or 6700k ???? )

At this point for a brand new system wait for Broadwell-E for a ~$1500 system

[Arcilon Samogar Gumich]

Spoiler

At this point for a brand new system wait for Broadwell-E for a ~$1500 system

• What's Broadwell-E ? Is that Intel Broadwell-E ?
• Broadwell-E is same than Haswell-E ?

[TheProfosist]

12 hours ago, Arcilon Samogar Gumich said:

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At this point for a brand new system wait for Broadwell-E for a ~$1500 system

• What's Broadwell-E ? Is that Intel Broadwell-E ?
• Broadwell-E is same than Haswell-E ?

It replaces Haswell-E and will also slot into X99

[Arcilon Samogar Gumich]

Broadwell-E it replace name Haswell-E is true?

[TheProfosist]

7 hours ago, Arcilon Samogar Gumich said:

Broadwell-E it replace name Haswell-E is true?

Correct just like Haswell-E replaced Ivy Bridge-E

[Arcilon Samogar Gumich]

1. Haswell-E is X99 chipset but why Haswell-E it replaced Ivy Bridge-E 
2. Ivy brige-E is support X99 CHIPSET
3. Haswell-E it also same Ivy brige-E or just difficult 

[NumLock21]

16 minutes ago, Arcilon Samogar Gumich said:

1. Haswell-E is X99 chipset but why Haswell-E it replaced Ivy Bridge-E 
2. Ivy brige-E is support X99 CHIPSET
3. Haswell-E it also same Ivy brige-E or just difficult 

1. New technology from Haswell-E so that's why it replaces Ivy Bridge-E.

2. Ivy Bridge-E runs on X79 not X99

3. Haswell-E runs on X99 and uses socket 2011-3, Installing it will be the same as installing a Ivy Bridge-E

[TheProfosist]

14 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

1. New technology from Haswell-E so that's why it replaces Ivy Bridge-E.

2. Ivy Bridge-E runs on X79 not X99

3. Haswell-E runs on X99 and uses socket 2011-3, Installing it will be the same as installing a Ivy Bridge-E

Broadwell is to Haswell as Ivy Bridge is to Sandy Bridge. Just look at their model number. It's quite simple. It's how Intel's tick took has worked on the enthusiast platform since they introduced it with X58. 

[NumLock21]

59 minutes ago, TheProfosist said:

Broadwell is to Haswell as Ivy Bridge is to Sandy Bridge. Just look at their model number. It's quite simple. It's how Intel's tick took has worked on the enthusiast platform since they introduced it with X58. 

And x58 would be Nehalem while h55 would be lynnfield.

[Arcilon Samogar Gumich]

1. Ivy bridge-E and haswell-E is same LGA 2011-3 ?
2. How about Intel skylake
3. How about what for use more ram, like 8 ddr4 ram with 128GB

[TheProfosist]

1 hour ago, Arcilon Samogar Gumich said:

1. Ivy bridge-E and haswell-E is same LGA 2011-3 ?
2. How about Intel skylake
3. How about what for use more ram, like 8 ddr4 ram with 128GB

no and im confused.

[Arcilon Samogar Gumich]

1. Ivy bridge-E and haswell-E is same LGA 2011-3 ?
2. How about Intel skylake
3. How about what for use more ram, like 8 ddr4 ram slot with LGA 2011-3 Intel motherboard

[BbsMentos]

So this means that I can put an 2 way SLI and a M.2 SSD in at the same time right ?

[Lays]

2 minutes ago, BbsMentos said:

So this means that I can put an 2 way SLI and a M.2 SSD in at the same time right ?

Z170?

 

Yes, provided that the m.2 ssd runs off the chipset, and not the CPU's lanes.

[BbsMentos]

Just now, Lays said:

Z170?

 

Yes, provided that the m.2 ssd runs off the chipset, and not the CPU's lanes.

Yeah on z170 of course, do I need to disable something in the BIOS then ?

[Lays]

1 minute ago, BbsMentos said:

Yeah on z170 of course, do I need to disable something in the BIOS then ?

No, it "should" be set up that way on the motherboard by default in theory.

[BbsMentos]

Just now, Lays said:

No, it "should" be set up that way on the motherboard by default in theory.

So it won't bottleneck the SSD ?

[Lays]

1 minute ago, BbsMentos said:

So it won't bottleneck the SSD ?

If everything is set up properly, it'll run through the lanes on the chipset.  Whilst the GPU's will run off the CPU's lanes.  So no it should be just fine.

[BbsMentos]

1 minute ago, Lays said:

If everything is set up properly, it'll run through the lanes on the chipset.  Whilst the GPU's will run off the CPU's lanes.  So no it should be just fine.

Great, Thanks !

[TheProfosist]

7 hours ago, BbsMentos said:

So this means that I can put an 2 way SLI and a M.2 SSD in at the same time right ?

that is pretty much why they did this

[BbsMentos]

2 hours ago, TheProfosist said:

that is pretty much why they did this

Yeah It think so, that's pretty smart, is it the first generation to do this ?
 

[TheProfosist]

23 hours ago, BbsMentos said:

Yeah It think so, that's pretty smart, is it the first generation to do this ?
 

Yes Skylake was the first to be able to due to the DMI 3.0 bus. There was not enough bandwidth over the DMI 2.0 which is why everything had to go straight through the CPU's PCI-E lanes.