Thread derailed big time :D more opinions needed!

[spwath]

As stated in previous posts, the hyperx are based on the takstar pro 80, which is already a decent headphone. That's why they are so hyped. They are actually decent headphones first, and they just happen to have a decent enough mic, so everyone is blown away by the quality, although you could just get a pro 80 and a Zalman clip mic, and be just as well off.

Plus cheaper and you get the great case.

[JSG509]

Thanks to all the reply's does far.  Im at a point in my life (debt free) that I tend to gravitate to the higher end products and am a strong believer in "spend once cry once".  I can see why the clouds are getting so much attention and in my opinion I think the majority of the people buying them are the younger crowd or people on a budget. I mean at the end of the day at the price point this would be a great buy for most.  Moving forward Im going to spend the next week learning as much as I can about headphone/ mic combos and hopefully make a decision soon because I just want to shoot my self when I throw the razer blacksharks on. Honestly dont know what I was thinking, I think I was on drugs or heavily medicated at the time of the purchase.    

[Tic-Tac]

You're entering a zone of madness, confusion, audio-snobbism and information-overload so BE WARNED.

 

Headphones are highly subjective thing, HIGHLY but you can prosper out of reviews and unboxings but not much. There is no perfect headphone.

 

If you're looking for a bass heavy you will not get good mids and highs.

If you're looking for bigger soundstage you will most likely not get a good bass headphones and that treble will pierce your ears.

If you're looking for a flat/neutral one, you will be disappointed in one time, you might find them "dry-sounding" or too boring maybe and you will he to EQ them all the time forever.

If you're looking for a "fun" headphones (the emphasis will mostly be in sub-bass/bass and mids region) you will most likely loose even the basic sharpness of that treble.

If you're looking for "gaming" you will most likely end up with some headphones with weak bass response (really don't know wtf is with that, weak bass headphones for gaming? WTF).

 

And all in all :

 

If you're looking for a closed set of cans that is atm of the most imperative for you for varios reasons you will most likely end up with "box-sound" chocked with bass etc.

If you're looking for more open version that will give you more accurate presentation of your sound you will most likely end up with almost non-existing bass and pretty high treble, not to mention that you MUST be alone when you're wearing them, I mean, NO ONE IN THE ROOM WITH YOU alone. If not you will annoy the crap out of anyone near you.

 

Now, I'm not even going to mention BUILD QUALITY in details because most of the time you will get pretty good all-around sound signature but bad build quality and vice versa.

 

Ah, and there are "the audiophiles" whos taste is impeccable and you're deaf of course.

 

And then again, if you want that perfect all-around sound and overall build quality with no trade-in's you must pay over 1000$/€ just for that headphones, lamp amplifiers not even counting. Period. 

 

All in all, everything is strictly subjective and the best choice is that there is so many choices that will drive you mad.

[dappy10]

G430s are pretty good

[KaminKevCrew]

Thanks to all the reply's does far. Im at a point in my life (debt free) that I tend to gravitate to the higher end products and am a strong believer in "spend once cry once". I can see why the clouds are getting so much attention and in my opinion I think the majority of the people buying them are the younger crowd or people on a budget. I mean at the end of the day at the price point this would be a great buy for most. Moving forward Im going to spend the next week learning as much as I can about headphone/ mic combos and hopefully make a decision soon because I just want to shoot my self when I throw the razer blacksharks on. Honestly dont know what I was thinking, I think I was on drugs or heavily medicated at the time of the purchase.

If you're looking for fact-based performance opinions, either here (from the regulars) or hydrogenaud.io are good places to ask. Head-fi can give you a good summary of how headphones sound when compared to each other (e.g. Headphone a has more treble and bass than headphone b, but headphone b has a much better mid range.) so head-fi does have its place, just don't go over there expecting completely factual stuff about headphones.

Some brands you may want to look at (and keep in mind, this is a general suggestion, and many of these may be well outside your budget) would be Audeze, hifiman (particularly the he-500, although you will need an AMP, more than likely, and it will take your whole budget just for the headphones) the Sennheiser hd600 and 650 are much loved by many, and fall well within your budget, although the Philips x2 may be more to your liking. You should also look at the Beyer models, although I can't speak for any of them, as I haven't ever tried any of them, let alone even held a pair (although I did see the box of one, once... Lol)

Shure also has some decent over ears, but from what I've heard, they definitely aren't spectacular, at least the lowest priced one isn't, I think...

[SSL]

Because it's in the name. "Hype"r X Cloud. Get it?

 

le snip

 

It's completely subjective until it isn't because more expensive gear is always better and some gear just synergizes well while some doesn't. And oh, the HD800 is the best headphone ever.

[JSG509]

Because it's in the name. "Hype"r X Cloud. Get it?

 

 

It's completely subjective until it isn't because more expensive gear is always better and some gear just synergizes well while some doesn't. And oh, the HD800 is the best headphone ever.

But $1400.00 and they are crazy big.  Also can I use them to play Minecraft? 

[KaminKevCrew]

But $1400.00 and they are crazy big. Also can I use them to play Minecraft?

You can, and he was being very sarcastic about that hd800 comment, I think... That being said, the hd800 *is* the best performing dynamic headphone that I know if, which is quite a feat.

[Lays]

q

 

 

With a 500$ budget he could easily get an AT2020 / Yeti and a great pair of cans lol, what do you mean he can't get both?

[KaminKevCrew]

With a 500$ budget he could easily get an AT2020 / Yeti and a great pair of cans lol, what do you mean he can't get both?

Neither if those mics are hella nice. That's what I mean.

[SparcASM]

HyperX Cloud is the VALUE headset. It's the best sounding for the price. Anything above it's price it's always better to go separate.

HD 558 sounds better. W00ps

[KaminKevCrew]

HD 558 sounds better. W00ps

Minus the fact that the 558 is NOT a headset... 

[Archarin]

$500 headphones are generally good, not absurd. Also, nice mics generally cost more than half of the OPs budget, so you wouldn't be able to get a "hella nice" mic and great headphones for the budget.

Honestly, a separate mic is going to serve you much better than a headset would. You could go for a Philips Fidelio X2, and a vmoda boompro. That's a pretty good combo, and it gives you about $150 left for a dac/amp, although I'd like to point out that you probably won't need one, given that the Fidelios should be sufficiently sensitive. If you do insist on getting one though, an SMSL SD 793-II is pretty much as good as you'll ever need. Only caveat is that it's coax only, so if your motherboard doesn't have coax, you'll have issues, in which case there are other options, but that's the best one.

As stated in previous posts, the hyperx are based on the takstar pro 80, which is already a decent headphone. That's why they are so hyped. They are actually decent headphones first, and they just happen to have a decent enough mic, so everyone is blown away by the quality, although you could just get a pro 80 and a Zalman clip mic, and be just as well off.

As I said above, you probably don't need one, but it's up to you.

$350 headphones and $150 mics are generally pretty good.

[SparcASM]

Minus the fact that the 558 is NOT a headset... 

$128 for $20 mic + $108 headset which is similar pricing to the HyperX.

[KaminKevCrew]

$350 headphones and $150 mics are generally pretty good.

But they aren't exceptional or amazing, or hella good.

[KaminKevCrew]

$128 for $20 mic + $108 headset which is similar pricing to the HyperX.

It's STILL not a headset. It's a pair of headphones that have a mic glued on.

[SparcASM]

It's STILL not a headset. It's a pair of headphones that have a mic glued on.

So as long as it's wired it's fine? k.

 

Also HD 600 + AT 2020 = $500

[KaminKevCrew]

So as long as it's wired it's fine? k.

Also HD 600 + AT 2020 = $500

What are you even trying to argue here?

[SparcASM]

What are you even trying to argue here?

That you can glue/velcro the mic on and you can have VERY exceptional headphones + mic for $500.

[DarkBlade2117]

What are you even trying to argue here?

A headset will never be as good as a a pair of headphones plus seperate mic. No argument. This is coming from someone who has on,y ever owned headsets.

[KaminKevCrew]

That you can glue/velcro the mic on and you can have VERY exceptional headphones + mic for $500.

Decent? Sure. Good, even, certainly. Exceptional though? Not really... Not if we are talking mic and headphones. Very exceptional? Not even. 

 

And if we are talking about a decent mic, that's at least $150, and a great one would probably take up the whole budget at the very least. 

 

A headset will never be as good as a a pair of headphones plus seperate mic. No argument. This is coming from someone who has on,y ever owned headsets.

Yeah, I still don't see why SparcASM is trying to argue with me. I never said that headphones at a given price point will sound better than a headset in the same price bracket. All I said was that the Sennheiser HD5-whatever was not a headset. And it still isn't a headset, even if you add the mod-mic. (The Philips Fidelio X2 are somewhat of an exception, due to the fact that they can use the Vmoda BoomPro and become a headset. 

[SSL]

$350 headphones and $150 mics are generally pretty good.

 

But TOTL headphones have that certain je n'est sais quoi about them.

[JSG509]

Like I said the budget is extremely flexible.  So I looked at the mmx300 but i cant pull the trigger too many bad reviews as of recent.  Starting to think headphones and mic combo is the way to go but out of all the headphones I have seen so far every review recommends a dac amp.  Many on the forums here have said on board audio is great now a days but would I really be getting all that i can from a $500 plus headphones.  The hunt for a great pear of headphone and mic still continues! I will be checking out all of the options posted in this thread as well but the MMX300 were among the first suggested.  

[You_are_a_cunt]

It can't hold a candle to my Corsair HS-1.

Not even going to bother considering them when I'll be replacing my headset

[sobe]

Like I said the budget is extremely flexible.  So I looked at the mmx300 but i cant pull the trigger too many bad reviews as of recent.  Starting to think headphones and mic combo is the way to go but out of all the headphones I have seen so far every review recommends a dac amp.  Many on the forums here have said on board audio is great now a days but would I really be getting all that i can from a $500 plus headphones.  The hunt for a great pear of headphone and mic still continues! I will be checking out all of the options posted in this thread as well but the MMX300 were among the first suggested.  

 

 

Is a headSET what you are directly after? If so I def would not recommend the MMX300 for the price, but the Sennheiser G4ME One would be a good choice in the upper end for headsets and it uses drivers from the HD598, so can't go wrong there unless there is a certain sound signature you are after.

 

I say branch out into a proper set of cans and a modmic. Unless you need professional audio equipment and such, the modmic should be more than fine as a mic.

 

 

It can't hold a candle to my Corsair HS-1.

Not even going to bother considering them when I'll be replacing my headset

 

What gives you that impression? The Corsair headsets will not come close to the Takstar Pro80.... Maybe if the Corsair were priced at $20-$30, where the price reflects the quality you get from them, Corsair would be viable.