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Intel Allegedly Upping Its Core Counts in 'Cannonlake'

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For many years now, Intel (NASDAQ:INTC) has offered CPUs with between two and four CPU cores for its client CPUs. Typically, the low-power CPUs aimed at Ultrabooks and 2-in-1 convertibles have two CPU cores while the processors aimed at higher-performance laptops as well as mainstream desktops feature between two and four cores depending on the particular chip and power envelope.

That being said, there is substantial evidence that Intel's upcoming Cannonlake client processors, which will be built on the company's next generation 10-nanometer manufacturing technology, will come with between four and eight cores.

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The engineer claims to be working on a system-on-chip that integrates between four to eight cores. Now, we know that this is a client processor and not, say, a server processor because Intel already fields chips with much greater core counts in the server market.

The only uncertainty in my mind is whether the chip that this engineer is working on will go into both thin-and-light Ultrabooks as well as full-power notebooks and desktops or if it's just for the latter two categories of devices only.

If I had to guess, though, I'd wager that both high-performance client processors as well as "thin-and-light" devices will be derived from the chip that the engineer claims to be working on. Thin-and-light devices will see maximum core counts of four, while desktops and potentially high-performance notebooks get up to eight cores.

Pretty skeptical of the so-called 'evidence' the article uses, as it's merely someone's job description in their LinkedIn profile. For all we know, it could just be a reference to the Haswell-E models, since it already has 6 and 8 cores.

But, if the information we have is indeed accurate, this should be a great time for people to upgrade their CPUs. Only problem is that 'Cannonlake' will release no earlier than 2017. So just hang in there.

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WTF is a Cannonlake?

 

Is it a lake filled with Cannonballs?

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Why can't it be 2017 already Q.Q

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Doubt mainstream is going to have 6-8 cores. There is no current need for it other then maybe the top of the end prosumers

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A lake with many Cannons embedded on the skirting... seems pointless for an enclosed lake :)

 

 

Doubt mainstream is going to have 6-8 cores. There is no current need for it other then maybe the top of the end prosumers

With DX12 comes more CPU usage drops, a good thing.... for a time... IMO,...then its devs adding MORE than they need and requiring more horsepower over time when you think 4 cores now is enough, and 4c+8t being overkill,... wait until devs utilize more features (some non-existant today) and I do predict DX12 (and onward) gaming will blow up with the game engine requiring more cores (cos devs put more into the game to which CPU requirements would also rise)

 

Happened with DX9/10/10.1/11 and onwards too.

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inb4 boatload of threads asking if they should wait for cannonlake

 

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Interesting, will we see Intel's amazing performance per core combined with many cores!?! Stay tuned in 2017 to find out!

Also, what might this do to Zen, which will be releasing in 2016? Will people want to wait for potentially incredibly powerful CPU's?

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Pretty skeptical of the so-called 'evidence' the article uses, as it's merely someone's job description in their LinkedIn profile. For all we know, it could just be a reference to the Haswell-E models, since it already has 6 and 8 cores.

But, if the information we have is indeed accurate, this should be a great time for people to upgrade their CPUs. Only problem is that 'Cannonlake' will release no earlier than 2017. So just hang in there.

Sauce: http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/09/29/intel-corporation-will-finally-be-upping-its-core.aspx

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Haswell had 6 and 8 cores too, called Haswell-E. No news here.

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i could maybe see them releasing a 6 core i7 but i doubt it, why increase silicon costs to them when amd has nothing to compete (if zen sucks were screwed)

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A lake with many Cannons embedded on the skirting... seems pointless for an enclosed lake :)

 

 

With DX12 comes more CPU usage drops, a good thing.... for a time... IMO,...then its devs adding MORE than they need and requiring more horsepower over time when you think 4 cores now is enough, and 4c+8t being overkill,... wait until devs utilize more features (some non-existant today) and I do predict DX12 (and onward) gaming will blow up with the game engine requiring more cores (cos devs put more into the game to which CPU requirements would also rise)

 

Happened with DX9/10/10.1/11 and onwards too.

New capabilities, More powerful hardware needed, not JUST GPU's.

 

Intel never ever would put gaming as their biggest focus for the average mainstream chips. There are cheap-ish X99 platforms that will offer more cores that they don't need to bother with making room in their consumer brand just for gamers. unlike all the other DX version, I wouldn't be surprised if they allowed offloading things to the iGPU for these things instead of just turning to offering more cores.  

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I think some of AMD's former employees work at Intel now...

 

 

MOAR CORES!

However, Intel never stopped using true cores.

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A six core i7 with HT would be interesting. But more interesting is if Intel went with a Tri Core i3 or a quad i3. With games "requiring" more than two cores, this would make the affordable i3's viable for budget builds.

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A six core i7 with HT would be interesting. But more interesting is if Intel went with a Tri Core i3 or a quad i3. With games "requiring" more than two cores, this would make the affordable i3's viable for budget builds.

Pentium = 2 core, i3 = 3 core, i5 = 4 core, i7 = 6 core.

 

It would make more sense too.

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I feel like Intel will milk out this whole dual core and quad core(mainstream) CPUs for as long as they need to.

 

 

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I really hope people don't consider this to be a fact. It could just be an engineer working on the -E SKU's. If Intel brings more cores to the normal consumer platform, they will completely void the point of the enthusiast/workstation platform. 

 

I can't imagine they would throw even more cores at the workstation platform, because then that would cut into the Xeon market, unless they plan on throwing more cores on the Xeons too. Either way, until we get solid evidence, treat this as a very unlikely rumor.

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I really hope people don't consider this to be a fact. It could just be an engineer working on the -E SKU's. If Intel brings more cores to the normal consumer platform, they will completely void the point of the enthusiast/workstation platform.

I can't imagine they would throw even more cores at the workstation platform, because then that would cut into the Xeon market, unless they plan on throwing more cores on the Xeons too. Either way, until we get solid evidence, treat this as a very unlikely rumor.

The only thing that strikes me is there is no 2 option, and it specifically says SOC... This is just weird.

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The only thing that strikes me is there is no 2 option, and it specifically says SOC... This is just weird.

I didn't even notice the SOC part. That really is odd. The only thing i could think of would be that he is referring to the CPU with HD graphics as a "SoC". Maybe Intel is making Atoms with larger core configurations? 

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I didn't even notice the SOC part. That really is odd. The only thing i could think of would be that he is referring to the CPU with HD graphics as a "SoC". Maybe Intel is making Atoms with larger core configurations? 

There's also the fact Skylake-EX Xeons will be coming with the Cannonlake Graphics option. Perhaps Intel is moving sooner than expected to pairing its iGPU tech with its enthusiast platform?

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There's also the fact Skylake-EX Xeons will be coming with the Cannonlake Graphics option. Perhaps Intel is moving sooner than expected to pairing its iGPU tech with its enthusiast platform?

It wouldn't be a bad idea. Can't tell you how tempting a workstation GPU would be with better iGPU. Use it on a linux box while using a hypervisor to pass physical GPU's through, with plenty of cores to allocate to them. A decent iGPU would mean a user could still game on the linux portion while his clients also game using the physical cards. 

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Increase core count for mainstream cpus, then so does enthusiast cpus too. So no matter what, CannonLake will always have less cores than CannonLake-E.

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Pentium = 2 core, i3 = 3 core, i5 = 4 core, i7 = 6 core.

 

It would make more sense too.

I think going with celeron=2 cores, pentium=3 cores, i3=3 cores+HT, i5=6 cores, i7=6 cores +HT would be more similar to intel's current lineup, since that is +50% cores for every current consumer model except celeron.

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