will apple switch to intel graphics for macbook pro?

[fade2green514]

not an apple fan, just thought this was an interesting rumor, and believable given that intels (integrated) graphics have taken HUGE leaps and bounds forward in the last few years. and AMD's just havent.

 

http://www.inquisitr.com/2431407/will-macbook-pro-2016-ditch-amd-for-intel-graphics/

 

 

The ability to power multiple 4K screens, play more games, and perform intensive design tasks, it certainly seems these options have moved closer to Apple’s focus when considering MacBook Pro user’s needs, but it may be more likely that we see a safer iteration of the MacBook Pro with a more powerful NVIDIA or AMD GPU in 2016.
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[TheSLSAMG]

Considering Apple's close relationship with Intel and the strides that Intel's iGPUs are making, it seems very realistic that this would be.

[The Benjamins]

If they do then its a down grade in graphics, so it would be bad for both companies IMO

[manikyath]

wait.... arent macbook pros all nvidia graphics currently?

[TheSLSAMG]

wait.... arent macbook pros all nvidia graphics currently?

The current 15" Retina has an R9 M370X.

[Sauron]

Right, 3000$ aren't enough money to give us a dedicated gpu. How silly of me to think otherwise. It's not like I would want to use my 3000$ laptop as a portable workstation, nooooo. And that wouldn't require at least acceptable opencl performance, of course not.

[KemoKa]

The current 15" Retina has an R9 M370X.

... Toasty...

[KemoKa]

Right, 3000$ aren't enough money to give us a dedicated gpu. How silly of me to think otherwise. It's not like I would want to use my 3000$ laptop as a portable workstation, nooooo. And that wouldn't require at least acceptable opencl performance, of course not.

That right there is why I point and laugh at Apple fanboys who do content creation.

[thekeemo]

That right there is why I point and laugh at Apple fanboys.

Fixed.

[Guest]

Read this before posting: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/11724-read-before-posting-in-this-section/

[Sauron]

Apple Users: Ooh! It's shinyApple! I'll buy it for $3000!

 

fixed

[KemoKa]

Logic:

 

PC Users: Oh, that'll give me good performance for my money, I'll spend $500 on that PC.

 

Apple Users: Ooh! It's shiny! I'll buy it for $3000!

Apple: if your Mac stays at normal temperatures and performance levels, you're doing it wrong.

[BernardoSLR]

Huh, I'm pretty sure only the High-end mbp has a dGPU... Pretty much every other model, from Macbook Air to low end Macbook Pro 15'' is iGPU only...

[AlexGoesHigh]

isn't the lowest end 15" mbp runs on iris graphics already?

[fade2green514]

the article makes it sound like they are switching to intel exclusively. they'll probably make it thinner lighter, reduce the battery size because you dont need all that battery anymore, and probably make sure it overheats too.

 

jk. but in a more serious tone, intels upcoming iGPU's look pretty sick for the average productivity user. doubt it'll be focused on high end gaming though.

[patrickjp93]

People who think Intel's iGPUs are unacceptable for productivity...

 

R7 M370X: 640 shaders at 800 MHz = 620 * 2 * 0.8*10^9 = 992GFlops

4950HQ Iris Pro: 384 shaders at 1.15GHz = 384 * 2 * 1.15*10^9 = 883.2GFlops

A downgrade, but not a bad tradeoff for a cooler-running machine

GT4e Iris Pro: 576 shaders at 1.0 GHz   = 576 * 2 * 1*10^9      = 1.152*10^12 = 1.152TFlops

                       576 shaders at 1.15 GHz = 576 * 2 * 1.15*10^9 = 1.3284*10^12 = 1.3284TFlops

An upgrade, and you get the cooler running machine!

[Thebman712]

isn't the lowest end 15" mbp runs on iris graphics already?

yeah i belive the first few tiers are integrated and only the high end mbp have graphics at all

And i have broadwell in my laptop so that comes with better graphics and power efficiency. The hd5500 i got for only $350 with a entire laptop is pretty kick ass

[GoodBytes]

As a person that uses Intel integrated graphics on its Surface Pro 2... I would GLADLY take a slower, yes SLOWER, AMD or Nvidia graphics solution over Intel.

[patrickjp93]

As a person that uses Intel integrated graphics on its Surface Pro 2... I would GLADLY take a slower, yes SLOWER, AMD or Nvidia graphics solution over Intel.

SP2, as in Ivy Bridge. Come on, that's low ballin' what Intel's pulled in improvement between then and now.

[GoodBytes]

SP2, as in Ivy Bridge. Come on, that's low ballin' what Intel's pulled in improvement between then and now.

SP2 has Haswell. Intel has only improved performance. Their drivers are full of bugs left and right, and STILL has no TRUE full DirectX, OpenGl, OpenCL nor DirectCompute support, making games and program crash, or cause problems. An example of how bad their drivers are: dynamic contrast ratio is enabled by default, and you disable it (which you won't find it as Intel doesn't call it that), at random times it forgets that you disabled it, and enables itself, but the Intel panel says it is disabled. But it is not. You need to reboot the system. This issue plagues laptops and mobile device to this very day with Intel latest graphic offering.

[Phillyphries]

I work at BestBuy and wonder why all of the laptops that have dedicated gpus are so huge.

 

Like, having an Nvidia chip can't make THAT much of a size difference, right? Wonder why they aren't in Macbook Pros.

[bobhays]

As a person that uses Intel integrated graphics on its Surface Pro 2... I would GLADLY take a slower, yes SLOWER, AMD or Nvidia graphics solution over Intel.

Why?

Edit didn't refresh with your other reply before I posted

[patrickjp93]

SP2 has Haswell. Intel has only improved performance. Their drivers are full of bugs left and right, and STILL has no TRUE full DirectX, OpenGl, OpenCL nor DirectCompute support, making games and program crash, or cause problems. An example of how bad their drivers are: dynamic contrast ratio is enabled by default, and you disable it (which you won't find it as Intel doesn't call it that), at random times it forgets that you disabled it, and enables itself, but the Intel panel says it is disabled. But it is not. You need to reboot the system. This issue plagues laptops and mobile device to this very day with Intel latest graphic offering.

Funny, I have no such problems on my Haswell MacBook Pro Retina with the 750M disabled. Microsoft's software in general is garbage, but eh...

Haswell's iGPU supports up through OpenCL 1.2 perfectly. Broadwell brought on 2.0 support.

[patrickjp93]

I work at BestBuy and wonder why all of the laptops that have dedicated gpus are so huge.

Like, having an Nvidia chip can't make THAT much of a size difference, right? Wonder why they aren't in Macbook Pros.

Those chips require beefier cooling solutions, no two ways about it.

[GoodBytes]

I work at BestBuy and wonder why all of the laptops that have dedicated gpus are so huge.

 

Like, having an Nvidia chip can't make THAT much of a size difference, right? Wonder why they aren't in Macbook Pros.

Nha. The problem is that the only thing that people want to buy when they see Nvidia or AMD GPU is the highest end model, or near that. Those are power hungry graphics solution, which requires large cooling. Nvidia and AMD both produces less power hungry GPUs, of course less powerful (but still miles better than Intel best offering), but they don't sale well. In addition, laptops with these high-end GPUs are targeted at gamers, and they seek a quieter system (well I mean who doesn't), but also cooler and want 0 throttling, not even a bit. So big fat cooling solutions are put.

Anyway, Apple used to have dedicated GPUs in their laptops. Razer has one in theirs. My previous laptop had an low-med range Nvidia GPU (and it was great!), all are/were thin. The same size as a normal laptop as you can see. No over heating issues. While it isn't the case for Apple MacBook Pro at the time, these thin laptops with dedicated GPUs aren't hot operating either under heavy load. Good cooling engineering and solution solves that.