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22 hours ago, Velcade said:

First pistol build.

Mostly Aero Precision with some SB Tactical and Geissele sprinkled in for good measure.

Looks good!

 

What barrel length is that?


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22 hours ago, Velcade said:

First pistol build.

Mostly Aero Precision with some SB Tactical and Geissele sprinkled in for good measure.

ARP.thumb.jpg.6ef0e810c1bdfdb82c7b5fee312d0719.jpg

this is a pistol?


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11 minutes ago, will4623 said:

this is a pistol?

Because the ATF is a complete clown show, yes.


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1 minute ago, Real_PhillBert said:

Because the ATF is a complete clown show, yes.

ATF?I know nothing about guns.


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3 minutes ago, will4623 said:

ATF?I know nothing about guns.

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

 

They basically decide classifications of firearms and what constitutes as an NFA item or not (National Firearms Act).  

So for example, that pistol the dude up there linked is considered a pistol because it's shorter than 26 inches in overall length, and has a barrel less than 16 inches, on top of not having a butt stock.  That device on the end does look like a butt stock, but it isn't.  It has a strap cause you literally strap it to your wrist.  Since you technically can't shoulder a pistol (you can if a situation absolutely requires it real quick and the device you're using to shoulder it isn't a butt stock).

 

If he put an actual butt stock on it, it would be considered an SBR, or short barreled rifle.  Since it has a barrel length under 16 inches, it'd be an SBR, and he'd have to pay a $200 tax stamp, and do a bunch of paper work, and some background checks, and wait months (sometimes over a year) for the ATF to go either, "okay you get SBR," or, "no you don't get SBR."


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1 minute ago, kaiju_wars said:

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

 

They basically decide classifications of firearms and what constitutes as an NFA item or not (National Firearms Act).  

So for example, that pistol the dude up there linked is considered a pistol because it's shorter than 26 inches in overall length, and has a barrel less than 16 inches, on top of not having a butt stock.  That device on the end does look like a butt stock, but it isn't.  It has a strap cause you literally strap it to your wrist.  Since you technically can't shoulder a pistol (you can if a situation absolutely requires it real quick and the device you're using to shoulder it isn't a butt stock).

 

If he put an actual butt stock on it, it would be considered an SBR, or short barreled rifle.  Since it has a barrel length under 16 inches, it'd be an SBR, and he'd have to pay a $200 tax stamp, and do a bunch of paper work, and some background checks, and wait months (sometimes over a year) for the ATF to go either, "okay you get SBR," or, "no you don't get SBR."

so could I make a 30 ought 6 pistol and mod it for sniper duty?


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Just now, will4623 said:

so could I make a 30 ought 6 pistol and mod it for sniper duty?

Not really.  

For one, you wouldn't want 30-06 in a pistol.  That's a cartridge you'd want in a full length rifle and with a butt stock.  On top of that, if you were looking at range, you'd want a longer barrel, not a shorter one.

 

On top of that, minus bolt action rifles, 30-06 has fallen to the way side.  Not many manufacturers make things that would allow you to make such an outrageous contraption.  


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1 minute ago, kaiju_wars said:

Not really.  

For one, you wouldn't want 30-06 in a pistol.  That's a cartridge you'd want in a full length rifle and with a butt stock.  On top of that, if you were looking at range, you'd want a longer barrel, not a shorter one.

 

On top of that, minus bolt action rifles, 30-06 has fallen to the way side.  Not many manufacturers make things that would allow you to make such an outrageous contraption.  

aaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. :(


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Just now, will4623 said:

aaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. :(

You definitely could with .308, which is basically similar performance of .30-06 with a lot less recoil.  

I don't know how fun it would be out of a pistol, but it is doable.  


Currently focusing on my video game collection.  Here's what I got so far.  

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Currently Playing:  

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  • Super Mario 3D All-Stars - Switch

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1 minute ago, kaiju_wars said:

You definitely could with .308, which is basically similar performance of .30-06 with a lot less recoil.  

I don't know how fun it would be out of a pistol, but it is doable.  

I would totally post that on there twtter and there reaction could be priceless.


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12 minutes ago, kaiju_wars said:

Since you technically can't shoulder a pistol (you can if a situation absolutely requires it real quick and the device you're using to shoulder it isn't a butt stock).

Last I heard, some braces can be shouldered without issue.

 

5 minutes ago, kaiju_wars said:

which is basically similar performance of .30-06 with a lot less recoil.  

.308 Winchester was developed to have virtually identical performance as .30-06 Springfield, but in a shorter case. Winchester achieved that, and .308 has only improved since (.30-06 as well but not nearly as much due to it losing popularity).


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2 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Last I heard, some braces can be shouldered without issue.

 

.308 Winchester was developed to have virtually identical performance as .30-06 Springfield, but in a shorter case. Winchester achieved that, and .308 has only improved since (.30-06 as well but not nearly as much due to it losing popularity).

They "can."

The ATF still designates that a brace can be shouldered, just real quick and that can't be how you primarily use it.  

 

As for .308.  You're right, it did have basically identical performance.  But while .30-06 lost popularity, both have kept up with the times basically.  There's a tiny gap, but even then, for your average shooter or hunter, there's virtually no difference at all.  Like, unless you're Chris Kyle, just go with .308.


Currently focusing on my video game collection.  Here's what I got so far.  

Keep in mind I'm still grabbing multiplatform games on PC, unless they happen to be cheaper on PS4 or Switch (such as RDR2 as of right now)

 

Currently Playing:  

  • Pokemon Sword - Switch
  • Super Mario 3D All-Stars - Switch

Games Beaten:

  • Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - Switch
  • A Way Out - PS4

(will be reset at the beginning of each month)

Put on hold:

  • Splatoon 2 - Switch

 

How many games I'm needing:

  • DS: 82
  • Wii: 38
  • 360/PS3: 84
  • 3DS: 60
  • Wii U: 7
  • PS Vita: 34
  • PS4: 18
  • Switch: 14

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, will4623 said:

this is a pistol?

Speaking of turning things into other things (that perhaps shouldn't be done)

this:

7376878_01_mosin_nagant_bullpup_640.jpg

 

Note the bolt action above the magazine?

Yeah, that's a bullpup Mosin Nagant

 

This is an unmodified one:

Mosin-Nagant-1024x571.png


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1 hour ago, Radium_Angel said:

Speaking of turning things into other things (that perhaps shouldn't be done)

this:

7376878_01_mosin_nagant_bullpup_640.jpg

 

Note the bolt action above the magazine?

Yeah, that's a bullpup Mosin Nagant

 

This is an unmodified one:

Mosin-Nagant-1024x571.png

that is not the same gun.
 


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14 hours ago, Real_PhillBert said:

Looks good!

 

What barrel length is that?

Barrel length is 10.5"

13 hours ago, will4623 said:

this is a pistol?

Yes it is.  Overall length under 26" and has a brace.


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5 minutes ago, Velcade said:

Barrel length is 10.5"

Very nice.

 

I have a 10.5" LMT SBR and it's one of my favorites.


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Just now, Real_PhillBert said:

Very nice.

 

I have a 10.5" LMT SBR and it's one of my favorites.

I bet.  I hadn't planned on building this so soon after my last AR but I was out with a buddy who has an SBR and it was a hell of a lot of fun to shoot.


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3 hours ago, will4623 said:

that is not the same gun.

Yes, sadly, it is...

Google "bullpup mosin"..you'll see


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18 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

Yes, sadly, it is...

Google "bullpup mosin"..you'll see

why they do dis?


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38 minutes ago, will4623 said:

why they do dis?

Because they can and because it is kinda cool.


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1 hour ago, will4623 said:

why they do dis?

Like @Drak3 said, because they can.

 

Well, it's one way to take a *bolt action, 5 round rifle* and turn it into a "scary assault weapon"

and I am sorta ashamed to admit this, but I like the concept...

These guys here:

http://cbrps.com/

 

Turn all kinds of things (including a ruger 10/22) into bullpup guns.


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10 hours ago, Radium_Angel said:

Speaking of turning things into other things (that perhaps shouldn't be done)

this:

7376878_01_mosin_nagant_bullpup_640.jpg

 

Note the bolt action above the magazine?

Yeah, that's a bullpup Mosin Nagant

 

This is an unmodified one:

Mosin-Nagant-1024x571.png

I like that... I want to do that

I might actually spend the $300+ on a mosin now just to do that.


Currently focusing on my video game collection.  Here's what I got so far.  

Keep in mind I'm still grabbing multiplatform games on PC, unless they happen to be cheaper on PS4 or Switch (such as RDR2 as of right now)

 

Currently Playing:  

  • Pokemon Sword - Switch
  • Super Mario 3D All-Stars - Switch

Games Beaten:

  • Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - Switch
  • A Way Out - PS4

(will be reset at the beginning of each month)

Put on hold:

  • Splatoon 2 - Switch

 

How many games I'm needing:

  • DS: 82
  • Wii: 38
  • 360/PS3: 84
  • 3DS: 60
  • Wii U: 7
  • PS Vita: 34
  • PS4: 18
  • Switch: 14

 

 

 

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On 9/9/2019 at 9:11 PM, Velcade said:

First pistol build.

Mostly Aero Precision with some SB Tactical and Geissele sprinkled in for good measure.

ARP.thumb.jpg.6ef0e810c1bdfdb82c7b5fee312d0719.jpg

As a Brazillian I'm absolutely astonished this is legally a pistol

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17 minutes ago, RafaelSoaresP said:

As a Brazillian I'm absolutely astonished this is legally a pistol

Think of it as an overgrown C96 Broomhandle


Come Bloody Angel

Break off your chains

And look what I've found in the dirt.

 

Pale battered body

Seems she was struggling

Something is wrong with this world.

 

Fierce Bloody Angel

The blood is on your hands

Why did you come to this world?

 

Everybody turns to dust.

 

Everybody turns to dust.

 

The blood is on your hands.

 

The blood is on your hands!

 

Pyo.

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