Smoking Barrels - LTT's Unnofficial Gun Club!

[Real_PhillBert]

I'm really considering picking up a pair of ADM UIC lowers for future projects. Probably a 12" 5.56 and an 8.5" 300BO. 

 

I really like how they integrated a right side bolt lock/bolt release; push up to lock back, push down to release. 

 

 

 

[Drak3]

28 minutes ago, Real_PhillBert said:

I'm really considering picking up a pair of ADM UIC lowers for future projects. Probably a 12" 5.56 and an 8.5" 300BO. 

 

I really like how they integrated a right side bolt lock/bolt release; push up to lock back, push down to release. 

 

 

 

They look good, how much they run for?

[Real_PhillBert]

16 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

They look good, how much they run for?

MSRP of $285

[Drak3]

17 minutes ago, Real_PhillBert said:

MSRP of $285

Looks good, but not that good.

[Real_PhillBert]

15 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Looks good, but not that good.

Milled lowers cost money. Right side bolt lock/bolt release costs money. Left side mag release costs money. 

 

Plus I've done a bunch of builds on forged lowers, kinda want to do something different with the next one. 

[elfensky]

I've been to California recently, got to shoot some stuff in LA. Gotta say - co² just can't compare to the real stuff, guns are awesome.

 

It was really interesting how relaxed they were about it though. Like I heard California isn't the best place to do it, and it still the non-nonchalance about giving a random tourist guns was interesting.

 

Here's pretty much how the conversation went:

- you two new?

- yes, we're tourists from Belgium (me and a friend) (<- neither of us ever held a real gun)

- ok, sign this form (about not pointing guns at people, basic range etiquette, yada yada)

- *gives form to person*

- ok, choose any gun (huge ass gun rack behind him with AKs, Sniper Rifles, SCARs and other cool stuff)

- we - *drool* and ask for the AK47, which is promptly supplied to us with bullets.

 

My experience:

- Goddamit Cali for putting those plastic thingies on the grips of rifles.

- 5.6mm rifles give way less kick than I expected. (AK47)

- 7.6?mm rifles are exponentially louder and more recoil-y than 5.6mm (SCAR17) (go Belgium go!)

- 9mm rifles are just funny. There's barely any sound or anything. Just like "boink" "boink" "boink". (MP5)

- Colt 1911 is the easiest & chillest gun ever. Even the .45 version has almost less kick than my co² airsoft version. HOW??? (Colt .45 ACP)

- I shot a sniper rifle. Kickback and sound was deafening but it felt cool. Then I shot a big, bad, and oh so lovely magnum. You 'muricans are crazy, hahahaha.

 

Pricey though. Ammo adds up quickly. Over ~3-4 hours, we spend about 400$ total, of which prob 300$ was the ammo.

[kaiju_wars]

31 minutes ago, ElfenSky said:

I've been to California recently, got to shoot some stuff in LA. Gotta say - co² just can't compare to the real stuff, guns are awesome.

 

It was really interesting how relaxed they were about it though. Like I heard California isn't the best place to do it, and it still the non-nonchalance about giving a random tourist guns was interesting.

 

Here's pretty much how the conversation went:

- you two new?

- yes, we're tourists from Belgium (me and a friend) (<- neither of us ever held a real gun)

- ok, sign this form (about not pointing guns at people, basic range etiquette, yada yada)

- *gives form to person*

- ok, choose any gun (huge ass gun rack behind him with AKs, Sniper Rifles, SCARs and other cool stuff)

- we - *drool* and ask for the AK47, which is promptly supplied to us with bullets.

 

My experience:

- Goddamit Cali for putting those plastic thingies on the grips of rifles.

- 5.6mm rifles give way less kick than I expected. (AK47)

- 7.6?mm rifles are exponentially louder and more recoil-y than 5.6mm (SCAR17) (go Belgium go!)

- 9mm rifles are just funny. There's barely any sound or anything. Just like "boink" "boink" "boink". (MP5)

- Colt 1911 is the easiest & chillest gun ever. Even the .45 version has almost less kick than my co² airsoft version. HOW??? (Colt .45 ACP)

- I shot a sniper rifle. Kickback and sound was deafening but it felt cool. Then I shot a big, bad, and oh so lovely magnum. You 'muricans are crazy, hahahaha.

 

Pricey though. Ammo adds up quickly. Over ~3-4 hours, we spend about 400$ total, of which prob 300$ was the ammo.

Nice, but the AK-47 shoots 7.62×39, lol

The SCARS shoots what's called 7.62 NATO, or .308 here in the states.

[elfensky]

8 minutes ago, kaiju_wars said:

Nice, but the AK-47 shoots 7.62×39, lol

The SCARS shoots what's called 7.62 NATO, or .308 here in the states.

Huh. 'Ait. I was fairly sure the dude at the counter said 5-something, but I guess he was wrong? The AK was noticeably quieter than the Scar though.

 

 

Ah! After a bit of googling is seems it was probably an AK74, which is 5.45mm.

[kaiju_wars]

1 minute ago, ElfenSky said:

Huh. 'Ait. I was fairly sure the dude at the counter said 5.6, but I guess he was wrong? The AK was noticeably quieter than the Scar though.

 

 

Ah! After a bit of googling is seems it was probably an AK74, which has a 5.45mm variant.

Yeah, the AK74 shoots 5.45mm

 

[Drak3]

6 minutes ago, kaiju_wars said:

The SCARS shoots what's called 7.62 NATO, or .308 here in the states.

7.62 NATO and .308 aren't thebsame, close though.

 

The casing is ever so slighly different, and the 7.62 is a less powerful round. Feeding .308 through a 7.62 specific gun can cause jams and issues feeding.

[Poohy14]

10 hours ago, kaiju_wars said:

Nice, but the AK-47 shoots 7.62×39, lol

The SCARS shoots what's called 7.62 NATO, or .308 here in the states.

They do make Scars that shoot 5.56 ammo. Also, 7.62x51 and .308 are a little different cases, close but a little different.

[Drak3]

2 minutes ago, Poohy14 said:

They do make Scars that shoot 5.56 ammo.

That'd be the SCAR-L. The most disappointing 5.56 to date.

 

But the SCAR-H is one hell of a .308.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Drak3 said:

That'd be the SCAR-L. The most disappointing 5.56 to date.

*cough ACR cough cough

sorry I think I got a mild cold. 

[Jito463]

Anyone have experience with the CZ Scorpion?  I'm considering getting one, since it takes the same 9mm as my handguns.

http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-scorpion-evo-3-s1-pistol-w-flash-can-folding-brace/

[Drak3]

6 hours ago, Jito463 said:

Anyone have experience with the CZ Scorpion?  I'm considering getting one, since it takes the same 9mm as my handguns.

http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-scorpion-evo-3-s1-pistol-w-flash-can-folding-brace/

I've got a 16" rifle. Mags are hard to load, but the gun is really fun to shoot.

[Jito463]

44 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Mags are hard to load

Hard as in the spring is stiff, or did you mean something else?

[Drak3]

2 minutes ago, Jito463 said:

Hard as in the spring is stiff, or did you mean something else?

Really stiff spring.

[Jito463]

1 minute ago, Drak3 said:

Really stiff spring.

Well, that's good to know.  Still, stiff springs can work out over time.  Thanks for the heads up.

[Drak3]

@Real_PhillBert @knightslugger Any experience with .458 SOCOM?

[george357]

1 hour ago, Drak3 said:

@Real_PhillBert @knightslugger Any experience with .458 SOCOM?

Not one of those two but I have been  running a 458 SOCOM for two years now both plinking and bear hunting. Personally love the thing

[Drak3]

1 hour ago, george357 said:

Not one of those two but I have been  running a 458 SOCOM for two years now both plinking and bear hunting. Personally love the thing

Kind of buffer you use? A2, carbine, A5, buffer-spring assembly?

[george357]

3 hours ago, Drak3 said:

Kind of buffer you use? A2, carbine, A5, buffer-spring assembly?

Carbine, standard kit

[Drak3]

Just now, george357 said:

Carbine, standard kit

How's the stock holding up?

[george357]

Just now, Drak3 said:

How's the stock holding up?

Great no issues at all, I have it on a TNArmsco Polymer lower as well also with no isses. It did destroy my knock-off red-dot sight in the first three rounds but got a TRS-25 and have had no further recoil issues.

 

[Drak3]

1 minute ago, george357 said:

Great no issues at all, I have it on a TNArmsco Polymer lower as well also with no isses. It did destroy my knock-off red-dot sight in the first three rounds but got a TRS-25 and have had no further recoil issues.

 

Think something along the lines of a Vert stock would survive it?