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Posted · Original PosterOP

So I have some trouble deciding about my gpu, I already now that I do not want any nvidia card (except 980ti but that's out of my budget lol).

I just don't know what to get between the 390, 390x or maybe even extend my budget by a bit and get the Fury (non x), also need help with what brand to buy and such. Been looking at the asus strix card aswell as the MSI cards.

My specs:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Ttb3pg

Might be getting a second one in the future and if so, would I need a bigger psu?

I will be playing: GTAV, BF4, CS:GO and the new NFS which will be releasing soon.. I play at 1080p atm but will probably move up to 1440p/21:9 or even 4k but that won't happen in the next 6 months at least.

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Moving up to 1440p would benefit from a Fury or 390X


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I own a 390x and its awesome. Watercooled it doesnt go over 40 under load.

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I am not liking that build. Skylake is not a good value. You are using 4 memory DIMMs for no reason, 1151 is only dualchannel. That storage setup makes me dizzy. And dual GPUs will enjoy a 850w PSU.

 

Man I am so pesimistic...

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If you have series plans to move to 1440p soon, than the 390X or Fury would be your best bet. However, if you want to stay at 1080p for a while longer the 390 is awesome, especially the MSI Gaming and Sapphire models (in fact, that goes for most AMD cards)


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Posted · Original PosterOP

Moving up to 1440p would benefit from a Fury or 390X

 

 

I own a 390x and its awesome. Watercooled it doesnt go over 40 under load.

 

 

If you have series plans to move to 1440p soon, than the 390X or Fury would be your best bet. However, if you want to stay at 1080p for a while longer the 390 is awesome, especially the MSI Gaming and Sapphire models (in fact, that goes for most AMD cards)

I'll probably go with the 390X because the upgradeablity for 1440p but then what manufacturer should I go with?

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I'll probably go with the 390X because the upgradeablity for 1440p but then what manufacturer should I go with?

Sapphire or MSI are my go-tos for AMD cards.


Project White Lightning (My ITX Gaming PC): Core i5-4690K | CRYORIG H5 Ultimate | ASUS Maximus VII Impact | HyperX Savage 2x8GB DDR3 | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | WD Black 1TB | Sapphire RX 480 8GB NITRO+ OC | Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ITX | Corsair AX760 | LG 29UM67 | CM Storm Quickfire Ultimate | Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum | HyperX Cloud II | Logitech Z333

Benchmark Results: 3DMark Firestrike: 10,528 | SteamVR VR Ready (avg. quality 7.1) | VRMark 7,004 (VR Ready)

 

Other systems I've built:

Core i3-6100 | CM Hyper 212 EVO | MSI H110M ECO | Corsair Vengeance LPX 1x8GB DDR4  | ADATA SP550 120GB | Seagate 500GB | EVGA ACX 2.0 GTX 1050 Ti | Fractal Design Core 1500 | Corsair CX450M

Core i5-4590 | Intel Stock Cooler | Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI | HyperX Savage 2x4GB DDR3 | Seagate 500GB | Intel Integrated HD Graphics | Fractal Design Arc Mini R2 | be quiet! Pure Power L8 350W

 

I am not a professional. I am not an expert. I am just a smartass. Don't try and blame me if you break something when acting upon my advice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I am not liking that build. Skylake is not a good value. You are using 4 memory DIMMs for no reason, 1151 is only dualchannel. That storage setup makes me dizzy. And dual GPUs will enjoy a 850w PSU.

 

Man I am so pesimistic...

I shall break it down quick for you: Skylake just because it's the latest and prices are almost the same, want to use up the ram slots cause of looks (is it really dual channel tho and not quad channel as it has been with earlier sockets?), storage is quite simple: 1 for OS and photoshop and such programs, the other one for games and then I have a 2tb external for bigger games which I just move stuff over (will get a 1tb or even maybe 2tb ssd later on) 3.5" drive cage is a small pain in the case but I might re-consider it and get some bigger 3.5 hdd's instead of more ssd's for storing heavier apps and games.

Thank you for the 850w tip tho :)

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Sapphire or MSI are my go-tos for AMD cards.

Will they fit in the air 240 tho? the MSI will most likely (length wise, not sure about width wise) but I have no clue about the Sapphire card...

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Will they fit in the air 240 tho? the MSI will most likely (length wise, not sure about width wise) but I have no clue about the Sapphire card...

MSI will fit no problem, but Sapphire looks just a little too long (290mm max in the Air 240, 298mm card) Sorry about that.


Project White Lightning (My ITX Gaming PC): Core i5-4690K | CRYORIG H5 Ultimate | ASUS Maximus VII Impact | HyperX Savage 2x8GB DDR3 | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | WD Black 1TB | Sapphire RX 480 8GB NITRO+ OC | Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ITX | Corsair AX760 | LG 29UM67 | CM Storm Quickfire Ultimate | Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum | HyperX Cloud II | Logitech Z333

Benchmark Results: 3DMark Firestrike: 10,528 | SteamVR VR Ready (avg. quality 7.1) | VRMark 7,004 (VR Ready)

 

Other systems I've built:

Core i3-6100 | CM Hyper 212 EVO | MSI H110M ECO | Corsair Vengeance LPX 1x8GB DDR4  | ADATA SP550 120GB | Seagate 500GB | EVGA ACX 2.0 GTX 1050 Ti | Fractal Design Core 1500 | Corsair CX450M

Core i5-4590 | Intel Stock Cooler | Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI | HyperX Savage 2x4GB DDR3 | Seagate 500GB | Intel Integrated HD Graphics | Fractal Design Arc Mini R2 | be quiet! Pure Power L8 350W

 

I am not a professional. I am not an expert. I am just a smartass. Don't try and blame me if you break something when acting upon my advice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I am afraid MSI 390s are 3 slot cards

 

x58 was triple channel

x79 quad channel

x99 quad channel

all intel and AMD chipsets today are dualchannel.

 

I would go with one SSD and "maybe" add partitions for separation.

 

Skylake is expensive where I live and DDR4 RAM is still more expensive. simply said, I would not benefit. note the I

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Posted · Original PosterOP

MSI will fit no problem, but Sapphire looks just a little too long (290mm max in the Air 240, 298mm card) Sorry about that.

Go on pcpp, people fit G1 nvidia cards (over 300mm, but no pp config on the h100i tho...) so it will prolly fit length wise but I'm more worried width wise :/

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Go on pcpp, people fit G1 nvidia cards (over 300mm, but no pp config on the h100i tho...) so it will prolly fit length wise but I'm more worried width wise :/

Width shouldn't be an issue at all. I've seen cards in excess of 140mm wide fit in the Air 240, and the Sapphire is 127, so no issues there.


Project White Lightning (My ITX Gaming PC): Core i5-4690K | CRYORIG H5 Ultimate | ASUS Maximus VII Impact | HyperX Savage 2x8GB DDR3 | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | WD Black 1TB | Sapphire RX 480 8GB NITRO+ OC | Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ITX | Corsair AX760 | LG 29UM67 | CM Storm Quickfire Ultimate | Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum | HyperX Cloud II | Logitech Z333

Benchmark Results: 3DMark Firestrike: 10,528 | SteamVR VR Ready (avg. quality 7.1) | VRMark 7,004 (VR Ready)

 

Other systems I've built:

Core i3-6100 | CM Hyper 212 EVO | MSI H110M ECO | Corsair Vengeance LPX 1x8GB DDR4  | ADATA SP550 120GB | Seagate 500GB | EVGA ACX 2.0 GTX 1050 Ti | Fractal Design Core 1500 | Corsair CX450M

Core i5-4590 | Intel Stock Cooler | Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI | HyperX Savage 2x4GB DDR3 | Seagate 500GB | Intel Integrated HD Graphics | Fractal Design Arc Mini R2 | be quiet! Pure Power L8 350W

 

I am not a professional. I am not an expert. I am just a smartass. Don't try and blame me if you break something when acting upon my advice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...why are you still reading this?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I am afraid MSI 390s are 3 slot cards

 

x58 was triple channel

x79 quad channel

x99 quad channel

all intel and AMD chipsets today are dualchannel.

 

I would go with one SSD and "maybe" add partitions for separation.

 

Skylake is expensive where I live and DDR4 RAM is still more expensive. simply said, I would not benefit. note the I

The I has been noted, should I then go with one 250gb and then some 1 or 2tb hdd? And I will go with the 2x4 gb or 2x8 gb with expansion in future if I do heavier work.

Skylake is not that much more here in Sweden (it would be cheaper with Devils canyon but the that's the only real difference and it's not by that much, roughly 50 euro).

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Width shouldn't be an issue at all. I've seen cards in excess of 140mm wide fit in the Air 240, and the Sapphire is 127, so no issues there.

It is the tri-x version you're talking about now right? Kinda sad that it doesn't have a backplate, if there isn't another card (better or almost same) that takes 2 slot spaces and has a backplate could you please direct me to it. :)

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It is the tri-x version you're talking about now right? Kinda sad that it doesn't have a backplate, if there isn't another card (better or almost same) that takes 2 slot spaces and has a backplate could you please direct me to it. :)

Yeah, the Tri-X version. The MSI has a backplate, and that's the only one I would wholeheartedly recommend to be completely honest. I have the 390 non-x variant and it's SO GOOD.


Project White Lightning (My ITX Gaming PC): Core i5-4690K | CRYORIG H5 Ultimate | ASUS Maximus VII Impact | HyperX Savage 2x8GB DDR3 | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | WD Black 1TB | Sapphire RX 480 8GB NITRO+ OC | Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ITX | Corsair AX760 | LG 29UM67 | CM Storm Quickfire Ultimate | Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum | HyperX Cloud II | Logitech Z333

Benchmark Results: 3DMark Firestrike: 10,528 | SteamVR VR Ready (avg. quality 7.1) | VRMark 7,004 (VR Ready)

 

Other systems I've built:

Core i3-6100 | CM Hyper 212 EVO | MSI H110M ECO | Corsair Vengeance LPX 1x8GB DDR4  | ADATA SP550 120GB | Seagate 500GB | EVGA ACX 2.0 GTX 1050 Ti | Fractal Design Core 1500 | Corsair CX450M

Core i5-4590 | Intel Stock Cooler | Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI | HyperX Savage 2x4GB DDR3 | Seagate 500GB | Intel Integrated HD Graphics | Fractal Design Arc Mini R2 | be quiet! Pure Power L8 350W

 

I am not a professional. I am not an expert. I am just a smartass. Don't try and blame me if you break something when acting upon my advice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...why are you still reading this?

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Yeah, the Tri-X version. The MSI has a backplate, and that's the only one I would wholeheartedly recommend to be completely honest. I have the 390 non-x variant and it's SO GOOD.

Will probably go for the MSI one as you recommend, but does it take 2 or 2.5 slots tho? And how hot does your card get?

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Will probably go for the MSI one as you recommend, but does it take 2 or 2.5 slots tho? And how hot does your card get?

2.5 slots as far as I can tell. Because of the zero fan passive cooling mode when idle it gets around 45-50 degrees idling, but if this is too high for you you can always set custom fan curves in Afterburner. Never goes over 60 degrees when gaming.


Project White Lightning (My ITX Gaming PC): Core i5-4690K | CRYORIG H5 Ultimate | ASUS Maximus VII Impact | HyperX Savage 2x8GB DDR3 | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | WD Black 1TB | Sapphire RX 480 8GB NITRO+ OC | Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ITX | Corsair AX760 | LG 29UM67 | CM Storm Quickfire Ultimate | Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum | HyperX Cloud II | Logitech Z333

Benchmark Results: 3DMark Firestrike: 10,528 | SteamVR VR Ready (avg. quality 7.1) | VRMark 7,004 (VR Ready)

 

Other systems I've built:

Core i3-6100 | CM Hyper 212 EVO | MSI H110M ECO | Corsair Vengeance LPX 1x8GB DDR4  | ADATA SP550 120GB | Seagate 500GB | EVGA ACX 2.0 GTX 1050 Ti | Fractal Design Core 1500 | Corsair CX450M

Core i5-4590 | Intel Stock Cooler | Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI | HyperX Savage 2x4GB DDR3 | Seagate 500GB | Intel Integrated HD Graphics | Fractal Design Arc Mini R2 | be quiet! Pure Power L8 350W

 

I am not a professional. I am not an expert. I am just a smartass. Don't try and blame me if you break something when acting upon my advice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...why are you still reading this?

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2.5 slots as far as I can tell. Because of the zero fan passive cooling mode when idle it gets around 45-50 degrees idling, but if this is too high for you you can always set custom fan curves in Afterburner. Never goes over 60 degrees when gaming.

Well, that is a problem. I would recommend Sapphire stuff. They know what they are dealing with the best.

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Well, that is a problem. I would recommend Sapphire stuff. They know what they are dealing with the best.

Sorry, but what's a problem? The slot count or the temps?


Project White Lightning (My ITX Gaming PC): Core i5-4690K | CRYORIG H5 Ultimate | ASUS Maximus VII Impact | HyperX Savage 2x8GB DDR3 | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | WD Black 1TB | Sapphire RX 480 8GB NITRO+ OC | Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ITX | Corsair AX760 | LG 29UM67 | CM Storm Quickfire Ultimate | Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum | HyperX Cloud II | Logitech Z333

Benchmark Results: 3DMark Firestrike: 10,528 | SteamVR VR Ready (avg. quality 7.1) | VRMark 7,004 (VR Ready)

 

Other systems I've built:

Core i3-6100 | CM Hyper 212 EVO | MSI H110M ECO | Corsair Vengeance LPX 1x8GB DDR4  | ADATA SP550 120GB | Seagate 500GB | EVGA ACX 2.0 GTX 1050 Ti | Fractal Design Core 1500 | Corsair CX450M

Core i5-4590 | Intel Stock Cooler | Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI | HyperX Savage 2x4GB DDR3 | Seagate 500GB | Intel Integrated HD Graphics | Fractal Design Arc Mini R2 | be quiet! Pure Power L8 350W

 

I am not a professional. I am not an expert. I am just a smartass. Don't try and blame me if you break something when acting upon my advice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...why are you still reading this?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

2.5 slots as far as I can tell. Because of the zero fan passive cooling mode when idle it gets around 45-50 degrees idling, but if this is too high for you you can always set custom fan curves in Afterburner. Never goes over 60 degrees when gaming.

Thank you for the info, will only have 1 gpu for the most but if I ever decide to wc I'll probably get another one so then there's no problem :) Thank you for all the help btw!

Well, that is a problem. I would recommend Sapphire stuff. They know what they are dealing with the best.

What's the problem? I know that they're one of the best AMD card manu's but if you know someone who makes backplates for them or if they even sell separately I'll take the sapphire card right now, but I will most likely jump on the msi 390x bandwagon.

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I thought you were going with mATX. That means that to CF, the cards need to be 2 slot.

If you are going to watercool them before crossfiring, they you should have no problems. Not sure if there are WB for these tho.

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