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Need help choosing gpu, AMD or Nvidia?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hi guys.

I'm having a bit of trouble trying to choose graphics card, and I've been looking at the R9 390, R9 390x, GTX 970 and the GTX 980.

 

I want to be able to achieve good fps on very high/ultra (over 60 fps at least), currently using a 1920x1080 144hz monitor but might be switching it up to a 2560x1440 monitor (same refresh rate).
I mostly play CS:GO, BF4, GTA V and some racing games.

Current specs:
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Mobo-MSI z97 gaming 5
PSU- Evga g2 750w
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Didn't include ram and hdd's/ssd's because they don't really seem so important when choosing gpu.

I might want to go XFire/Sli in the future and if so how much power will the graphics cards and rest draw? Can upgrade psu if needed.

My budget is 500 usd

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R9 390x or R9 390, depends how much you want to spend.. or if you want to spend a lot more, GTX 980 Ti.

But NOT GTX 980, is doesnt compensantes for the price rightnow.


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They're all solid choices. However, if you plan on moving to 1440p, then the 390X is your best bet. The 980 isn't great for the price. 

 

The 980 and 970 would be fine on that PSU in SLI, but the 390 and 390X will take a fair bit more power. They may still work on it, but there'll be very little headroom, so I'd move up to an 850W if you do go with Crossfire. 

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They're all solid choices. However, if you plan on moving to 1440p, then the 390X is your best bet. The 980 isn't great for the price. 

 

The 980 and 970 would be fine on that PSU in SLI, but the 390 and 390X will take a fair bit more power. They may still work on it, but there'll be very little headroom, so I'd move up to an 850W if you do go with Crossfire. 

Without over of the GPUs 750W should be fine. 


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You'll want a sizeable framebuffer at 1440p 144hz. So 390X.


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R9 390x or R9 390, depends how much you want to spend.. or if you want to spend a lot more, GTX 980 Ti.

But NOT GTX 980, is doesnt compensantes for the price rightnow.

I would say

 980Ti is a bit far outside his budget if the 980 is the highest he wants to go.Then again, he could get a R9 Fury, the sapphire one is sold at 550 USD ,which is practically around some of the mid/higher end 980s, and it performs better out of the box.

 

Albeit, you can OC the 980 pretty hard to make up for that performance gap.

 

 

Performance sweetspot wise, 390X is really nice. It performs better then the 390/970, slightly worse then the 980. But costs inbetween 390/970 and 980... Good deal that one.

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I would say

 980Ti is a bit far outside his budget if the 980 is the highest he wants to go.Then again, he could get a R9 Fury, the sapphire one is sold at 550 USD ,which is practically around some of the mid/higher end 980s, and it performs better out of the box.

 

Albeit, you can OC the 980 pretty hard to make up for that performance gap.

 

 

Performance sweetspot wise, 390X is really nice. It performs better then the 390/970, slightly worse then the 980. But costs inbetween 390/970 and 980... Good deal that one.

Agreed, from the options here I would go for R9 390x


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Agreed, from the options here I would go for R9 390x

i would reccomend the Sapphire Nitro or MSI gaming.

Powercolor is also a good choice, but their coolers are often very thick.

 

Asus should be avoided like the plague. Yes their DCU3 cooler is better then DCU2, but still not that good. The GPU gets way too hot.

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I would say

 980Ti is a bit far outside his budget if the 980 is the highest he wants to go.Then again, he could get a R9 Fury, the sapphire one is sold at 550 USD ,which is practically around some of the mid/higher end 980s, and it performs better out of the box.

 

Albeit, you can OC the 980 pretty hard to make up for that performance gap.

 

 

Performance sweetspot wise, 390X is really nice. It performs better then the 390/970, slightly worse then the 980. But costs inbetween 390/970 and 980... Good deal that one.

How much is the performance difference between the 390x and the fury? Do you have any benchmarks of the two or if Linus has done any? and If I now go for one of those stated, which manufacturer is the best? OC'ing, fps and heat wise.

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You'll want a sizeable framebuffer at 1440p 144hz. So 390X.

You don't need 8GB at all. I max at ~2500MB in BF4 maxed with my GTX 980 and 1440p 144Hz monitor.


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How much is the performance difference between the 390x and the fury? Do you have any benchmarks of the two or if Linus has done any? and If I now go for one of those stated, which manufacturer is the best? OC'ing, fps and heat wise.

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Thank you for the help.

 

You don't need 8GB at all. I max at ~2500MB in BF4 maxed with my GTX 980 and 1440p 144Hz monitor.

Well I know I might not be needing it right at this moment with the games I'll be playing but it's a bit more future proof and if I want to in the future I could go up to 4k easier since more vram.

What fps do you get with that setup btw?

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If you can get one cheaper maybe a 290X...

Fury / Fury Nano could be interesting to if you want to go AMD. - But remember you *cant* overclock these.

 

Personally i'd grab something cheap till HBM goes mainstream next year.

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At 1080p or 1440p the nvidia options make more sense to be honest.

(They have harder times keeping up at 4k.)


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Sapphire R9 390 or 390X is good! :D


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Thank you for the help.

 

Well I know I might not be needing it right at this moment with the games I'll be playing but it's a bit more future proof and if I want to in the future I could go up to 4k easier since more vram.

What fps do you get with that setup btw?

Im typically around 100 FPS in BF4


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