Most futureproof cpu socket?

[lanchacppa]

This is my first activity on this forum, so hello everyone!

 

I'd like to hear your opinion about futureproofness of the currently available sockets. The reason I'm asking this is because I'm planning on building a new rig while low on budget, so I'd rather upgrade my current PC bit by bit than buy everything at once. Also, since I'm most commonly short on money, I don't think I could afford an extensive upgrade for the next three-four years after that. Having said that, I'm wondering which of the three sockets (AM3+, FM2+ or LGA1150) offers better upgrade path if I decide to buy a decent motherboard (up to 350 PLN - I live in Poland, it's about 90 USD or 120 CAD), an entry-level CPU (or APU) for more or less the same price, overclock it a little and if need arise upgrade it while keeping the mobo.

I'm planning build a general purpose rig - for moderate gaming, watching videos, web browsing and working with office applications, AutoCad, Matlab, etc.

My gaming expectations aren't high, since my current setup is a Core2duo T6600 & Geforce GT220M laptop and Athlon 64 x2 4200+ & Radeon 9400 GT PC - anything capable of 60FPS 1366x768 or more on current games will do.

What do you think?

[Raffy98]

I think that a Z97 1150 socket should be good, so you can overclock.

Or if you want the newest thing on the market possible then you can get a shiny new Z170 motherboard.

Keep in mind that if i'm correct the Z170 has a different socket (1151).

 

P.S. Welcome to the forum!

[Morgan MLGman]

FM2+ is a dead socket in terms of futureproofness, don't even consider it. The AM3+ would be good right now cause the FX CPUs are good in terms of price/performance ratio when on low budget, but when you're looking for a futureproof upgrades, go for the LGA1150, get a Pentium G3258 as recommended by starcoaster and then upgrade to even Devil's Canyon CPUs.

EDIT: In terms of APUs, go for the AMD A10-7850k or 7870k, they can even run GTA V or The Witcher 3 on low settings.

[ShadowCaptain]

What do you think?

 

No such thing really, sockets generally get a couple of years, maybe a few processor refreshes and then they get retired

 

You might buy an 1150 now, but in another year nobody will be making them etc

 

Your best option is to save up, and buy the best thing you can at the time, or hope that you can buy a used high tier CPU later, for example getting a socket 1150 now, getting a pentium cheap and saving up for a i5 or i7 you can buy in 6-12 months - but stock might have run out and you might have to buy used

 

Its very VERY hard to say anything else

[lanchacppa]

Wow, that was quick.

Yeah, I was considering the 1150 mostly because of the G3258 processor and several Linus' vids recommending it for budget builds. As for FM2+ I was considering that if I was to buy an APU with R7/R9 integrated graphics which could allow me to use the pc until I find a decent discrete card (probably 1 year old second-hand), but then again - after that I wouldn't use the integrated GPU anymore, so it would be money wasted, I guess

As for AM3+ - there is an AM4 so I guess its support will end sooner than the newer LGA1150.

About the 1151 Raffy98 mentioned - right now there is like, ONE motherboard available that fits below my pricepoint (ASUS H170M-E D3) and two CPUs, the cheaper of which costs more than two times the amount I was planning to spend, so nope ;p

[Morgan MLGman]

@lanchacppa, ever heard of Dual Graphics? AMD APUs can boost AMD dedicated GPUs from the respective R7 series to enhance performance.

[ThomasD]

Right now about the only "futureproof" benefit I see to 1151 is that you would (probably) be able to re-use your RAM in your next build a few years down the road.

 

But that is a lot of up-front expense for a little future benefit.

 

Go 1150.

[Nena Trinity]

Nothing is future proof but both 1150 & AM3+ is dead/dying so I think 2011 & 1151?

[lanchacppa]

@Morgan MLGman
Yeah, I've heard of Dual Graphics, but I've also read that very frequently the integrated graphics processor holds back the discrete GPU from reaching its peak performance while in DG config - isn't that true? I might be misinformed.

@Nena360
As I said, 1151 is too new, there are no Skylake processors on the market that I could afford right now And isn't LGA2011 older than 1150 and therefore dead-er? I'm still kinda newbie in that, could you explain that to me? 

[Nena Trinity]

@Morgan MLGman

Yeah, I've heard of Dual Graphics, but I've also read that very frequently the integrated graphics processor holds back the discrete GPU from reaching its peak performance while in DG config - isn't that true? I might be misinformed.

@Nena360

As I said, 1151 is too new, there are no Skylake processors on the market that I could afford right now And isn't LGA2011 older than 1150 and therefore dead-er? I'm still kinda newbie in that, could you explain that to me? 

The X99 chipset 2011!

[Morgan MLGman]

Chipset X99 is a LGA 2011-v3 socket, which supports an awesome i7-5820k 6 cores 12 threads CPU. It's slightly more expensive than the i7-4790k but has two cores more. The real difference with the price are motherboards which are sometimes even twice as expensive as Z97. DDR4 memory lowered its price to basically DDR3 price at one point so there's no difference over here.

@lanchacppa Dual Graphics feature in case of AMD actually boosts the GPU performance, if you watched Linus's video about AMD APU Value build guide he put some benchmarks over there regarding dual graphics with AMD.

[Prysin]

LGA1150, you can go from a 2 core pentium G3258 all the way up to a 4790k i7, 4 cores with hyperthreading

WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG

 

Correct Answer is LGA1151. There will be no new products coming for the LGA1150, unless INtel does some crazy anniversary shit. But i wouldnt buy a mobo in the hopes that a unlocked 4690k comes around, oh wait, the 4690k IS already unlocked.

 

New intel products - LGA 1151.

New AMD products - AM4

 

Any other socket.

IS

DEAD/EOL

[lanchacppa]

@Nena360
I see... this chipset looks really great. But then again, I haven't found any affordable x99 motherboard (below $90) and the DDR4, at least where I live cost almost twice as much as DDR3 of the same capacity. I know, they are faster, but I'm a cheap bastard unfortunately.

[Prysin]

Chipset X99 is a LGA 2011-v3 socket, which supports an awesome i7-5820k 6 cores 12 threads CPU. It's slightly more expensive than the i7-4790k but has two cores more. The real difference with the price are motherboards which are sometimes even twice as expensive as Z97. DDR4 memory lowered its price to basically DDR3 price at one point so there's no difference over here.

@lanchacppa Dual Graphics feature in case of AMD actually boosts the GPU performance, if you watched Linus's video about AMD APU Value build guide he put some benchmarks over there regarding dual graphics with AMD.

Dual Graphics is a waste of money.

If you gonna buy a low end GPU for the APU, get a 750Ti or if you need to go even cheaper, R7 360...

 

there is ways to easily circumwent the reason you "would buy a extra R5 250". Its called forcing 2GB VRAM for the APU in the bios. Since the APU is basically a R5 250 + Athlon X4 860k in one chip, then you can understand that you wont get much performance from adding another 50USD GPU.... The 260X however is miles ahead in performance and costs not that much more.

[Nena Trinity]

@Nena360

I see... this chipset looks really great. But then again, I haven't found any affordable x99 motherboard (below $90) and the DDR4, at least where I live cost almost twice as much as DDR3 of the same capacity. I know, they are faster, but I'm a cheap bastard unfortunately.

If you want cheap then go AMD! Athlon X4 860K in FM2+ socket is very cheap or the AM3+ is good if you get a FX-6300 and a MSI 970 Gaming motherboard. (none is very future proof but there is no such thing as future proof!)

[lanchacppa]

I'm not closed for other alternatives, but AM4 will se the light of day in 2016, 1151 is in its infancy with only two rather expensive CPUs on the market at the moment and 2011-3 is indeed well developed and might be a good choice, but I doubt my wallet could withstand that. So I guess I will stick with 1150. After all, the differences in performance between generations are not that enormous. If the first Ivy Bridge i7 CPUs seem relevant to me today, I suppose I might be satisfied with a 4790K a couple years down the line, after a CPU upgrade. And then maybe I will get ready for what will come after Skylake. I could also wait until it develops a little more, but I'm not very patient.

[ShiftHitTheFan]

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