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Higher failure rates I think? I'm not completely sure.

There was a segate 3TB drive(which i happen to have 4 of in my fileserver yay) that had 50% failure rate. All the other drives are under 10%.

Hitachi makes the best hard drives.

 

Hitachi, right?

Now that you mention it, yes. That's the top dog.

 

Shit, I have a 40GB IDE TravelStar in my old laptop that's doing fine. :/

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Hitachi, right?

Yeah, even though they are owned by WD nowadays.

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My family only really buys WD because my uncle said WD was way better a while back. At least when my family buys HDDs.

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And what about Samsung Spinpoints?

Not had a lot of those. I have a couple of Samsung laptop drives, and they appear to work just fine. I had a Hitachi drive give out after having a dent in its casing, but my 1TB HGST, I'm hoping, will serve me for years. I haven't a lot of experience with WD drives, but I hear they're pretty darn good. More Seagate drives have failed for me than any other drive. the one in my family iMac died three times, and the one in my desktop got the click of death and that was quite literally all she wrote.

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I don't think either would still be in business if they made crap. Everyone has there bad batches.

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Im trying to figure that out by running both a WD and a Seagate drive in my system. Both still function as they should. I think it comes down to luck, hard drives are a fragile technology.

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Im trying to figure that out by running both a WD and a Seagate drive in my system. Both still function as they should. I think it comes down to luck, hard drives are a fragile technology.

gotta think about sample size, when we have around 2000 samples will can just do some math to test reliability. The manufacturer has a very good idea of failure rate while it's extremely hard for us.
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And what about Samsung Spinpoints?

I've still got 2 working as new. A 5400RPM 20GB and the 7200RPM version (snapped off a couple of the pins-so fuck).

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They are good drives. Some people just have bad luck with them (like @pspfreak). And there are also some that swear by them (like @terrytek).

I dont have 1 seagate drive without bad sectors(8+ drives over the time.)

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Well there was one EXTREMELY bad article about them failing a ton. I think they updated it a year later, but it still ha tons of problems. Examples of the problems were very low sample size, uneven use, and using consumer drives for enterprise tasks.

4000+ drives of the same type is NOT a low sample size. As for uneven use and wrong environment, they were used in the same environment as 4000+ HGST consumer drives, which only had a 1-2% failure rate compared to Seagate's 10-30%. So it's not a matter of sample size or use, it's just that the Seagates of that period were rubbish.

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Seagate as far as I know is in the same league as WD. WD is maybe just a tad better, but that is my vision of it.

 

Now I see all kinds of idiots in Youtube comments (yeah yeah I know) that go 'hurr a Seagate drive failed me once' . (like dafuq every drive fails, and you just had back luck that it happened so quickly)

 

They are pretty damn good as HDD's go as far as I know, or is this wrong?

A mutual buddy of mine bought a seagate HDD 2 months back and it is failing now...i usually stick with WD :)

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No idea. Currently have 3 Seagate drives and they're all pretty much running to spec. Considering the wear and tear I've put them throughout the years they're handling themselves quite well.

2x 3.5" drives that have been pretty much running 20/7 for the past year and a half and a laptop drive that has seen near to no downtime over the past 6 years (record on downtime on that laptop was 12 hours, rest of the time it was running)

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They bought Maxtor. I've had bad experience with Maxtor drive. Enough for me to abandon brand (same thing with Antec).

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I had a WD external drive fail on me just after the warranty period, yet the Seagate drives in my NAS are still good after several years. I don't think the bad rep is warranted.

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They bought Maxtor. I've had bad experience with Maxtor drive. Enough for me to abandon brand (same thing with Antec).

My Fireball 3 (40Gb P-ATA) still works after 12 years. Maxtor had some good drives

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Never has a Seagate drive failed on me. Never has a WD drive failed on me.

Have had 4 WD drives or so and 3 Seagate drives (over 12 years or so).

 

no sure, maybe started by people with bad luck

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I honestly think it comes down to preference. I haven't had a bad experience with either. Both are reputable companies that have been around for a long, long time. I honestly grabbed a WD black because it was a high performance drive that was cheaper than a comparable seagate drive at the time. I  will say that WD has a far better community presence on this forum, and I suspect some others. For that, and the helpful attitude of CaptainWD I thank them. While he's always going to recommend his bosses' products he does tend to offer helpful advice.

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My Fireball 3 (40Gb P-ATA) still works after 12 years. Maxtor had some good drives

All of my Maxtor HDD have dead control boards  :( .

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My Fireball 3 (40Gb P-ATA) still works after 12 years. Maxtor had some good drives

 

I didn't say they all are bad. But one bad experience is sometimes enough for me. With that drive, it was worst possible experience. The drive had hidden bad sectors. Like the ones you don't see anywhere (S.M.A.R.T. wasn't a thing back then) but what will cause trouble.

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My current system haves two of theirs HDDs one being 1TB other 3TB no problems.

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I had a lot of internal Western Digital drives fail on me, but never an internal Seagate. Still decided to switch away from them and bought two Toshiba hard drives - one internal and one external - for my new computer.

External-wise, I have a Seagate semi-fail on me not too long ago and, hearing that their quality has picked up recently, decided to try an external Western Digital drive again to replace it. No problems so far with that one.

I had a friend on Facebook who just complained about his failing 3TB Western Digital Red internal hard drive a few days ago; he has also told me about his past experience with failing Seagate drives...

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Higher failure rates I think? I'm not completely sure.

There was a segate 3TB drive(which i happen to have 4 of in my fileserver yay) that had 50% failure rate. All the other drives are under 10%.

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