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There's no HBM on the 300 series. Just on fury X which affect its performance by a lot.

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At this point it's clearly a refresh unless they're holding back some sort of miracle driver to sell more 300 series cards.

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I dont remeber the outcry when gtx 770 came out ( which is a rebrand not even a refresh).

NVIDIA did TONS of rebranding also on lower end cards .

Nor do i remeber the outcry when the haswell refresh came out.

I mean this card is pretty good for the price even thought it is a refresh.

So it performs about the same as the gtx 970 at 1080p , and slightly better at higher resolutions.

The price is also very close but can differ depending on the country.

In newegg the 390 is cheaper.

BUT , and this is relevant the 390 has 8 GB of VRAM in a 512 bit BUS which can use it.

This amount of VRAM is only irrelevant at 1080p and in a couple years will be very handy in all resolutions.

As it stands its great for 1440P and 4k ( crossfire).

Having a large buffer is always great. GDDR5 is not cheap.

So yeah I would say in this segment seeing what i saw in the video the gtx 390 is better value.

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I don't really understand all of the discussion here, 970 and 390 are both great cards for the price, go with the one that you like more. Does not matter if you call it refresh or a re brand it is the same thing in the end. Only thing that matters is the end result and it is obvious that it performs.

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Who cares if it's a rebrand, or a refresh? Does the card perform well for it's price point? That's the only question that matters.

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Here's another 390 vs 970 comparison video. This time with the MSI gaming 970 vs the Sapphire Nitro (tri-X) 390. Basically they are dead-even overall.

 

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I mean by his definition yes its a refresh. I don't tend to use the same definition considering any aib can make a 290 8gb into a 390 with just a driver swap. The gpu itself is in no way shape or form altered.

It is still better than a 970 as is a 290 with the new driver updates.

Just kinda whatever.

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I dont remeber the outcry when gtx 770 came out ( which is a rebrand not even a refresh).

NVIDIA did TONS of rebranding also on lower end cards .

Nor do i remeber the outcry when the haswell refresh came out.

I mean this card is pretty good for the price even thought it is a refresh.

So it performs about the same as the gtx 970 at 1080p , and slightly better at higher resolutions.

The price is also very close but can differ depending on the country.

In newegg the 390 is cheaper.

BUT , and this is relevant the 390 has 8 GB of VRAM in a 512 bit BUS which can use it.

This amount of VRAM is only irrelevant at 1080p and in a couple years will be very handy in all resolutions.

As it stands its great for 1440P and 4k ( crossfire).

Having a large buffer is always great. GDDR5 is not cheap.

So yeah I would say in this segment seeing what i saw in the video the gtx 390 is better value.

Technically speaking since drivers/aib models were updated it is a refresh as well, but the difference here is the 770 slotted lower and at the time of release was cheaper than the 680 it started from.

Neither of these are true for the 5!!! "refreshed cards" and while one is kinda slotted lower (285 vs 380) one is actually slotted higher?!?! (265 vs 370).

Also note that Intel never tried to sell the devils canyon chips as a new generation (hell even their naming scheme says it 4790k vs 4770k etc).

The 390 is a good card for low end systems because the 290 was as well. And because amd finally figured out a bit of their tessillation issues (and yet has not given the 200 series it back yet).

The point is that amd massively insanely disappointed with this generation of graphics cards and that's the real reason everyone is upset.

Btw. A 290 8gb could be had for much cheaper and after a tiny amount of tinkering is exactly as good as a 390. (+/- 1 fps.)

So really neither is the best option.

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Prices in USD , from top to bottom : 250$ , 270$ , 400$ , 720$ .

 

While the base price is 400$ on the thing due to taxes in Croatia , i know a guy which works there , and he can get the card without tax due to buying it over the company :D 

 

End result : A Nitro R9 390 for 275$ 

 

I could possibly get the Fury X for 590$ , but that is waaay to much now 

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I mean by his definition yes its a refresh. I don't tend to use the same definition considering any aib can make a 290 8gb into a 390 with just a driver swap. The gpu itself is in no way shape or form altered.

It is still better than a 970 as is a 290 with the new driver updates.

Just kinda whatever.

 

Driver swaps have been tested on the 290's. It made no difference. A BIOS swap, on the other hand, does make a difference (I know as I'm running a 290 with a 390x BIOS) but there are issues with doing this on some 290's which proves the 390's are more than just a BIOS/driver update. Some of those differences are; overall lower core voltage at relative clocks, much higher standard clocks on the memory (1500 vs 1250) which some 290's can't handle, and higher standard core clock (1050 vs 947) which, believe it or not, some 290's can't handle or require additional voltage to maintain. 

 

It's been stated a number of times in a number of threads, videos and articles, the differences between 290's and 390's. I don't understand why people keep ignoring this.

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I dont remeber the outcry when gtx 770 came out ( which is a rebrand not even a refresh).
NVIDIA did TONS of rebranding also on lower end cards .
Nor do i remeber the outcry when the haswell refresh came out.
I mean this card is pretty good for the price even thought it is a refresh.
So it performs about the same as the gtx 970 at 1080p , and slightly better at higher resolutions.
The price is also very close but can differ depending on the country.
In newegg the 390 is cheaper.
BUT , and this is relevant the 390 has 8 GB of VRAM in a 512 bit BUS which can use it.
This amount of VRAM is only irrelevant at 1080p and in a couple years will be very handy in all resolutions.
As it stands its great for 1440P and 4k ( crossfire).
Having a large buffer is always great. GDDR5 is not cheap.
So yeah I would say in this segment seeing what i saw in the video the gtx 390 is better value.

 

 

The 390 is well priced. There are a couple cheaper 970s but the difference between $300 and $330 is small enough not to be that big of a deal. The 390x however is at a bad price. $375-$400 max for a starting point is where the 390x would be king. It puts up a good fight against the 980 and even overclocks well but I think just a little tweak to the pricing could make it one hell of a buy.

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It's a rebrand cos they denote it a generation above the 290x, which it isn't.  Devil's Canyon is still very much Haswell, and is named as such, 4770K vs 4790K, NOT 5790K.

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Technically speaking since drivers/aib models were updated it is a refresh as well, but the difference here is the 770 slotted lower and at the time of release was cheaper than the 680 it started from.

Neither of these are true for the 5!!! "refreshed cards" and while one is kinda slotted lower (285 vs 380) one is actually slotted higher?!?! (265 vs 370).

Also note that Intel never tried to sell the devils canyon chips as a new generation (hell even their naming scheme says it 4790k vs 4770k etc).

The 390 is a good card for low end systems because the 290 was as well. And because amd finally figured out a bit of their tessillation issues (and yet has not given the 200 series it back yet).

The point is that amd massively insanely disappointed with this generation of graphics cards and that's the real reason everyone is upset.

Btw. A 290 8gb could be had for much cheaper and after a tiny amount of tinkering is exactly as good as a 390. (+/- 1 fps.)

So really neither is the best option.

Where is this stream of straw graspers that keep fixating on card names coming from and in what universe are the 290 and 390 low end cards?

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I call it a refresh, because the 390X is different than the 290X, i mean it clearly performs better so that means it's different.

980TI is imho a rebrand, i mean it's a worse version of the Titan X, that's it...

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There's no HBM on the 300 series. Just on fury X which affect its performance by a lot.

Ahh. Fury only. It still doesn't effect performance. The memory can be overclocked by alot but it only effects FPS within the margin of error. It's just a higher quality type of memory.

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Prices in USD , from top to bottom : 250$ , 270$ , 400$ , 720$ .

 

While the base price is 400$ on the thing due to taxes in Croatia , i know a guy which works there , and he can get the card without tax due to buying it over the company :D

 

End result : A Nitro R9 390 for 275$ 

 

I could possibly get the Fury X for 590$ , but that is waaay to much now 

Hah, what do you do in Croatia to be able to afford Fury? Just curious :)

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Driver swaps have been tested on the 290's. It made no difference. A BIOS swap, on the other hand, does make a difference (I know as I'm running a 290 with a 390x BIOS) but there are issues with doing this on some 290's which proves the 390's are more than just a BIOS/driver update. Some of those differences are; overall lower core voltage at relative clocks, much higher standard clocks on the memory (1500 vs 1250) which some 290's can't handle, and higher standard core clock (1050 vs 947) which, believe it or not, some 290's can't handle or require additional voltage to maintain.

It's been stated a number of times in a number of threads, videos and articles, the differences between 290's and 390's. I don't understand why people keep ignoring this.

Sorry bios swap was what I meant. And yes I know some can't handle it but most of the better 8 gb 290s can it seems so...

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Where is this stream of straw graspers that keep fixating on card names coming from and in what universe are the 290 and 390 low end cards?

The same people that want amd to not keep shitting the bed.

Anyways yes the 390 and lower are imho low end cards. As is the 970. They really shouldn't be used for anything higher than 1080p on their own, which for cp gaming is now the generally the lowest acceptable resolution. Hence low end card. Hell broadwell igpu is basically as good as a 260 so their isn't much room in between.

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I call it a refresh, because the 390X is different than the 290X, i mean it clearly performs better so that means it's different.

980TI is imho a rebrand, i mean it's a worse version of the Titan X, that's it...

 

....... *Facepalm.* That's what the 970, 390, 280, and several other video cards through history are when compared to higher end cards. They're chips that for one reason or another don't meet the standards of their more expensive siblings.

 

I think the 390 and 390x are refreshes as well but they perform better because they are overclocked and have their voltage bumped up. Clock for clock they perform pretty much exactly the same.

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I dont remeber the outcry when gtx 770 came out ( which is a rebrand not even a refresh).
NVIDIA did TONS of rebranding also on lower end cards .
Nor do i remeber the outcry when the haswell refresh came out.
I mean this card is pretty good for the price even thought it is a refresh.
So it performs about the same as the gtx 970 at 1080p , and slightly better at higher resolutions.
The price is also very close but can differ depending on the country.
In newegg the 390 is cheaper.
BUT , and this is relevant the 390 has 8 GB of VRAM in a 512 bit BUS which can use it.
This amount of VRAM is only irrelevant at 1080p and in a couple years will be very handy in all resolutions.
As it stands its great for 1440P and 4k ( crossfire).
Having a large buffer is always great. GDDR5 is not cheap.
So yeah I would say in this segment seeing what i saw in the video the gtx 390 is better value.

 

The outcry is because the whole 300 series (which there was a lot of hype before the release) turned out to be all rebrands/refreshes. Nobody cares if nvidia rebrands the low end gpus because most of the people that buy them don't even have an igpu. The gtx 770 is nvidia's only high end rebrand in the past couple of years. Meanwhile amd have been reusing most of their 2012 gpus (hd 7850,7870,7950 and 7970). Although might I say they have been doing an excellent job keeping up.

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The outcry is because the whole 300 series (which there was a lot of hype before the release) turned out to be all rebrands/refreshes. Nobody cares if nvidia rebrands the low end gpus because most of the people that buy them don't even have an igpu. The gtx 770 is nvidia's only high end rebrand in the past couple of years. Meanwhile amd have been reusing most of their 2012 gpus (hd 7850,7870,7950 and 7970). Although might I say they have been doing an excellent job keeping up.

 

I was disapointed as well but not that much surprised.

 

The 200 serioes was all rebrands except the 290 and 290x and later the 285.

 

The 300 cards are refreshes except the fury nano , fury and fury X.

 

Even thought they are refreshes they still perform great for the price range.

 

IIn terms of price/performance and value these rebrands are actually better than the fury X which failed against the 980 TI .

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Ahh. Fury only. It still doesn't effect performance. The memory can be overclocked by alot but it only effects FPS within the margin of error. It's just a higher quality type of memory.

 

Well, not really. I am not an employee at AMD so I can't really know what Fiji is made of but here are facts : It is WAY wider than GDDR5 and is said by both AMD and Nvidia to be deeply improving the performances of a card. HBM is huge and if both company agree on that there has to be some truth especially when the fury with only 4GB manage to catch up with the titan X.

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The same people that want amd to not keep shitting the bed.

Anyways yes the 390 and lower are imho low end cards. As is the 970. They really shouldn't be used for anything higher than 1080p on their own, which for cp gaming is now the generally the lowest acceptable resolution. Hence low end card. Hell broadwell igpu is basically as good as a 260 so their isn't much room in between.

Irrelevant numbers that mean absolutely nothing is AMD shitting the bed? There is almost enough of you people now so we can have a straw grasping olympics.

 

Sorry but your opinion does not make it fact. 290, 390, 970 and 780 are all 1440p cards. Your opinion on what they should be used for is not going to change that.

 

EDIT: Even if they were 1080p cards, how the fuck does that make them low end?

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