AMD - A New Era In PC Gaming

[Brainless906]

I don't have time to read through 35 pages of people bitching about rebrands and and high tdp, can someone refer me to a official AMD spec sheet of the cards, or does that not exist yet?

 

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[Sam Z Man]

People are actually not bitching about TDP, they are impressed by it. 

 

There is no official specsheet from AMD no. Only thing they said on the stream was 4096 SPUs on Fury X, and hinting at mostly the same on Fury and Nano. 

 

Edit: Woops, forgot that I found a official spec sheet for Fury X

http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/graphics/desktop/r9

Down there, under R9 300 Specs

Thanks but I was actually looking for the official specs of the 380, 380X, and 390X.

I just wanted to see if fully unlocked Tonga is a thing, and what the official 390X looks like compared to my 290X's.

[BiG StroOnZ]

Them are (now proven) wrong speculated guesses. Fury will be the air cooled variant that will be announced by AIBs. Fury X (X is the moniker) designates AMD's in house liquid cooled design. It doesn't mean that we definitely won't see a Fury Hybrid with an AIO strapped to it. Although we do know that the Fury X uses a custom AIO unit (custom block) so the likelihood of a Hybrid will be slim as there will be additional cost invested into designing a custom loop to suit the card. I think most manufactures will just strap something along the lines of a DirectCU III to it and call it a day.

 

 

I didn't see the presentation, what I heard though it was very vague and there were more questions now being asked than actual answers.

 

I did find a dialog write up, so Fury X Specs are accurate according to the chart I posted:

 

"12:55PM EDT - 8.6 TFLOPs, 1050MHz core clock

12:55PM EDT - 4096 SPs, even

12:55PM EDT - 4096 stream processors, 8.9B transistors"

12:55PM EDT - Specs

12:55PM EDT - Focus on 4K and HBM

12:53PM EDT - Raja is now explaining the human element behind designing Fiji

 

 

 

 

12:51PM EDT - Fiji in a a 6" card, half the power of 290X

12:51PM EDT - AMD Radeon R9 Nano

12:50PM EDT - Cards will be in stores "very shortly"

12:50PM EDT - R9 Fury (vanilla) will be air-cooled

12:50PM EDT - 1.5x perf per watt of R9 290X

12:49PM EDT - AMD Radeon R9 Fury X

12:49PM EDT - There will be multiple products with Fiji

12:48PM EDT - "Most complex and highest performance GPU we have ever built"

 

But it seems that the Fury specs might not be accurate

[ThreePinkApples]

Thanks but I was actually looking for the official specs of the 380, 380X, and 390X.

I just wanted to see if fully unlocked Tonga is a thing, and what the official 390X looks like compared to my 290X's.

Well, those are there too, there is no 380X card though

[Sam Z Man]

Well, those are there too, there is no 380X card though

Is there a Tonga card? Because if not, I think that might be refining fully unlocked Tonga for that 380X name, witch would be awesome.

[ThreePinkApples]

Is there a Tonga card? Because if not, I think that might be refining fully unlocked Tonga for that 380X name, witch would be awesome.

380 looks like Tonga (285), and yes, looks like they might be reserving 380X for a future update

[Brainless906]

I didn't see the presentation, what I heard though it was very vague and there were more questions now being asked than actual answers.

 

I did find a dialog write up, so Fury X Specs are accurate according to the chart I posted:

 

 

 

But it seems that the Fury specs might not be accurate

http://www.twitch.tv/amd/v/6240136

 

Skip to 1:15:20. There is no uncertainty. She clearly states that the Fury x is the liquid cooled version and the Fury is the air cooled version.

 

"we're also introducing along with the Fury X, the Fury. Which is an air cooled version.The Fury X is the liquid cooled version, the Fury is the air cooled version."

 

That would be the exact quote. She even confirmed it right after the introduction. 

[Opcode]

I didn't see the presentation, what I heard though it was very vague and there were more questions now being asked than actual answers.

 

I did find a dialog write up, so Fury X Specs are accurate according to the chart I posted:

But it seems that the Fury specs might not be accurate

Them are (now proven) wrong speculated guesses. Fury will be the air cooled variant that will be announced by AIBs. Fury X (X is the moniker) designates AMD's in house liquid cooled design. It doesn't mean that a Fury Hybrid is impossible. Although we do know that the Fury X uses a custom AIO unit (custom block) so the likelihood of a Hybrid will be slim as there will be additional cost invested into designing a custom loop to suit the card. Along with the high quality components and added technologies (GPU Tach) this is where your extra $100 comes from. I think most manufactures will just strap on something along the lines of a DirectCU III and call it a day.

 

We know its more than likely based off GCN 1.2. I'm curious as to if AMD will throw a "GCN 1.3" revision out there.

I've made a few edits to my post since your quote. I don't find it logical for them to cut down Fiji. Especially when the Fury X costs only $100 more. Which at least 2/4 of that can be easily accounted for in the custom liquid loop (custom block, aftermarket components). Along with additional technologies that Fury won't have, not to mention the build materials for the Fury X are to be of utmost quality. As explained Fiji needs a custom AIO unit to even begin to water cool it. I just don't see AIBs investing R&D into other company's to develop a unit that will properly accommodate the GPU. They all have new high end air cooling units they've just used on a few of new cards on the market (like the DirectCU III). AMD could be banking on them being the only supplier of a water cooled edition. Which when supply meets demand the price premium plays into effect.

Custom liquid loop + additional technologies + high quality components + only WCE on the market = +$100

[othertomperson]

http://www.tweaktown.com/tweakipedia/68/amd-radeon-r9-290x-4gb-vs-8gb-4k-maxed-settings/index.html

 

4GB is more than enough for 4k right now. Anyone saying it isn't, or even trying to insinuate anything like that is just trying to cause an argument, or trying to prove themselves right with no other point. Even shadow of mordor maxed out at 4K gains a whole... 2 FPS for having 8GB over 4GB. WOW 2 FPS.

 

Won't stop the nvidia fanboys though.

 

"But X game uses X at X resolution with my X"

Unused RAM is wasted RAM, pretty much every game ever will store as much as it possibly can in VRAM at all times even if the performance increase is absolutely miniscule. That doesn't mean it NEEDS that much though. Refer to the link I posted for more.

 

It's been AMD and Sapphire touting the ineptitude of 4GB for 4K, not Nvidia.

 

 

I've made a few edits to my post since your quote. I don't find it logical for them to cut down Fiji. Especially when the Fury X costs only $100 more. Which at least 2/4 of that can be easily accounted for in the custom liquid loop (custom block, aftermarket components). Along with additional technologies that Fury won't have, not to mention the build materials for the Fury X are to be of utmost quality. As explained Fiji needs a custom AIO unit to even begin to water cool it. I just don't see AIBs investing R&D into other company's to develop a unit that will properly accommodate the GPU. They all have new high end air cooling units they've just used on a few of new cards on the market (like the DirectCU III). AMD could be banking on them being the only supplier of a water cooled edition. Which when supply meets demand the price premium plays into effect.

Custom liquid loop + additional technologies + high quality components + only WCE on the market = +$100

 

If Gigabyte's marketing hype was to be believed their latest Windforce cooler is in theory capable of cooling a 295x2. I find it difficult to believe that any GPU that can be adequately cooled by a single 120mm rad cannot conceivably be cooled at all by air. Gigabyte or Sapphire, or hell MSI, would be perfectly capable of making an aftermarket air cooler for the Fury X imo.

[Sam Z Man]

380 looks like Tonga (285), and yes, looks like they might be reserving 380X for a future update

Praise Gaben, I always hated the thought of the wasted potential of the 285, hopefully they make use of it soon, because I can't wait.

[Misanthrope]

It's been AMD and Sapphire touting the ineptitude of 4GB for 4K, not Nvidia.

More over, Sapphire it's still selling the 290x trix 8gb for almost 70 less yet they want us to pay 450 for the same fucking card?

http://goo.gl/VRLOiZ

[Ohlyver]

5k 60fps? Damn RIP Nvidia.

Which game, what setting ?

[Brainless906]

Which game, what setting ?

 

Tomb Raider on Ultra

 

We have no confirmation though. Lisa just mentioned it. If you watch the Archive and go to about 1:15:00 she points out two games running at 5k. Tomb raider at 60 fps and Sniper Elite 3 at 45 fps

 

Edit: The 2 games looked smooth enough but nothing was going on and we obviously dont have verified settings.

[zMeul]

We know its more than likely based off GCN 1.2. I'm curious as to if AMD will throw a "GCN 1.3" revision out there.

I made a prediction the Fiji core might actually be based on Tonga (heavy mod), wanna be sure if I was right

[othertomperson]

More over, Sapphire it's still selling the 290x trix 8gb for almost 70 less yet they want us to pay 450 for the same fucking card?

http://goo.gl/VRLOiZ

 

Pretty much. Actually this one comes with a slightly higher factory overclock than the 390X, and given vram and the overclock are the only differences...

[duriel]

Korean Benchmarks got me wanting to upgrade. 

 

http://cfile8.uf.tistory.com/image/226D614A558049E817E36A

Sounds like a pretty fair amount of BS on the 8k results because we don't even have displays. 

These are leaked scored apparently sooo, it's still a rumor

 

 

 

 Upgraded Tonga (1.2) or just completely new 1.3

 

If these are true it looks like 4GB HBM is plenty up to 4K which is the highest resolution anyone will realistically use for gaming for a while.

Even then, HBM2 8GB will remove basically all memory limitations as it looks like 4GB HBM matches 12GB GDDR5 up to that petering off point at 5K.

 

seems believable i guess

[Sam Z Man]

Tomb Raider on Ultra

 

We have no confirmation though. Lisa just mentioned it. If you watch the Archive and go to about 1:15:00 she points out two games running at 5k. Tomb raider at 60 fps and Sniper Elite 3 at 45 fps

 

Edit: The 2 games looked smooth enough but nothing was going on and we obviously dont have verified settings.

Based on how GPU bound tomb raider is that's fucking awesome.

[Opcode]

If Gigabyte's marketing hype was to be believed their latest Windforce cooler is in theory capable of cooling a 295x2. I find it difficult to believe that any GPU that can be adequately cooled by a single 120mm rad cannot conceivably be cooled at all by air. Gigabyte or Sapphire, or hell MSI, would be perfectly capable of making an aftermarket air cooler for the Fury X imo.

With the card only pulling 275w I don't see it being a problem at all for AIBs to air cool the card. They just have to come up with a new mounting solution that will cover both the die and HBM. Although like said it will likely require a custom block to liquid cool it so I don't see anyone really reaching out with their resources to do that when AMD already has their own WCE. They could of made it so AIBs cannot sell liquid cooled variants for that matter as well. Either way I'm more interested in the Fury variant as I don't mind air cooling and will save a few bucks for the same performance (Fury X is targeted towards overclocking enthusiasts).

[zMeul]

in case it was missed:

 

[Sam Z Man]

in case it was missed:

I'm liking the look of the power delivery cooling, thumbs up to AMD for that.

[Nielips]

A new era of a single company market looks most probable, also is the fury nano not a cut down fury, so it won't have that many cores surely?

[Opcode]

A new era of a single company market looks most probable, also is the fury nano not a cut down fury, so it won't have that many cores surely?

From my understanding and how Lisa presented it, there's no such thing as a cut-down Fiji yet. Fury, Fury X, and R9 Nano all will have fully featured Fiji.

[Bouzoo]

@Opcode

 

Not to open a new thread, x2 version PCB picture is here

 

http://videocardz.com/56588/amd-dual-fiji-radeon-r9-fury-x2-pcb-pictured

 

https://twitter.com/anshelsag/status/610879971532386304?s=09

[othertomperson]

@Opcode

 

Not to open a new thread, x2 version PCB picture is here

 

http://videocardz.com/56588/amd-dual-fiji-radeon-r9-fury-x2-pcb-pictured

 

https://twitter.com/anshelsag/status/610879971532386304?s=09

 

So given how AMD and Nvidia normally market dual GPU cards, does this actually only have 2GB HBM?

[Opcode]

@Opcode

 

Not to open a new thread, x2 version PCB picture is here

 

http://videocardz.com/56588/amd-dual-fiji-radeon-r9-fury-x2-pcb-pictured

 

https://twitter.com/anshelsag/status/610879971532386304?s=09

Added to main post. Why do such pictures always come from someone shooting it on a potato. It makes me always question the validness of them.  <_<