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My R9 390 vs. GTX 970: Surprising Results?

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That cards shroud design looks great!

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Most impulsive buy of 2015.

 

Alright, I've got some pictures for the non-believers.
 
So first off, the box and my username. Pretty essential stuff.
 
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Open the box, and we have another box with XFX on it, if you didn't realize who the GPU manufacturer was.
 
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Open it up some more and you have another box, a warranty information card, and, well... The graphics card.
 
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Interesting stuff, let's see the accessories. We've got HDMI to DVI (2x), DVI to HDMI, a driver's DVD, and an instruction guide.
 
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Here's the GPU in the anti-static bag.
 
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And here's it without the anti-static bag.
 
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For ports, we have Display Port, HDMI, and two single-link DVIs. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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Here's the brushed looking backplate, something even my GTX 970 SuperSuperclocked doesn't have *cough*EVGA*cough*.
 
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And finally, here's the SN and info on the GPU.
 
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I've never owned an XFX GPU before, but the unboxing experience was far from impressive. It was black boxes and lack luster accessories I probably won't touch asides from having taken a photo of them. The main attraction is the GPU so I can excuse that. I'll be sure to update with benchmarks and thermals in a short while, I'm excited to see where the R9 390 lands, or if it's just the 290 with 8GB.

 

Oh my gawds it has backplate! <3

 

I wish I had one! :(

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R20 score MC: 3529cb | R20 score SC: 506cb

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HiSilicon Kirin 810 (T.S.M.C. 7nm) - Huawei P40 Lite / Huawei nova 7i
Mediatek MT2601 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - TicWatch E
Mediatek MT6580 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - TECNO Spark 2 (1GB RAM)
Mediatek MT6592M (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone my32 (orange)
Mediatek MT6592M (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone my32 (yellow)
Mediatek MT6735 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - HMD Nokia 3 Dual SIM
Mediatek MT6737 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - Cherry Mobile Flare S6
Mediatek MT6739 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone myX8 (blue)
Mediatek MT6739 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone myX8 (gold)
Mediatek MT6750 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - honor 6C Pro / honor V9 Play
Mediatek MT6765 (T.S.M.C 12nm) - TECNO Pouvoir 3 Plus
Mediatek MT6797D (T.S.M.C 20nm) - my|phone Brown Tab 1
Qualcomm MSM8926 (T.S.M.C. 28nm) - Microsoft Lumia 640 LTE
Qualcomm MSM8974AA (T.S.M.C. 28nm) - Blackberry Passport
Qualcomm SDM710 (Samsung 10nm) - Oppo Realme 3 Pro

 

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Please give us some benchmarks!

Haha, I'll have some benchmarks vs. my 970 tonight, you just have to wait!

if you have to insist you think for yourself, i'm not going to believe you.

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lol I'm half tempted just to hop in the car, drive to best buy, buy one, benchmark it and return it.

That's exactly what I was going to do lol. I wouldn't get rid of my 970 for potentially a 290.

if you have to insist you think for yourself, i'm not going to believe you.

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Does the box or any document says anything about the TDP? There's been leaked information from MSI models that says it has a TDP of only 208W, which I find difficult to be true since it's a rebrand, not a new architecture.

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Does the box says anything about the TDP? There's been leaked information from MSI models that says it has a TDP of only 208W, which I find difficult to be true since it's a rebrand, not a new architecture.

No mentions. The only thing the box says about power consumption is that XFX suggests a 750W PSU.

I'll probably stop by Home Depot and pick up something to monitor wattage to verify, because 208W sounds too good to be true.

if you have to insist you think for yourself, i'm not going to believe you.

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No mentions. The only thing the box says about power consumption is that XFX suggests a 750W PSU.

I'll probably stop by Home Depot and pick up something to monitor wattage to verify, because 208W sounds too good to be true.

Started any benchmarks yet?

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Started any benchmarks yet?

No, I'm going to be at work for another 7 hours.

if you have to insist you think for yourself, i'm not going to believe you.

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I don't like the layout. I want more DisplayPort outputs :c

 

PS. Those are Dual-Link DVI.

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No, I'm going to be at work for another 7 hours.

 

What's your angle going to be when you return it? Ummm, this thing sucks? It makes me bedroom 105 degrees Fahrenheit when I turn my computer on? I didn't know it was just an R9 290? Doesn't work with my GSync monitor? How do I plug this into my PS4?

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So happy they ditched the idea of the gold rings around the fans, I liked the silver but the grey looks pretty good too.

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Honestly, all you have to say is that it didn't satisfy my needs and you can return it. You don't really need a legitimate reason.

exactly. you dont even have to give a reason, just that it wasn't what you expected, or it was a mistake or whatever. 

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What's your angle going to be when you return it? Ummm, this thing sucks? It makes me bedroom 105 degrees Fahrenheit when I turn my computer on? I didn't know it was just an R9 290? Doesn't work with my GSync monitor? How do I plug this into my PS4?

My power supply didn't meet the requirements.

I figured it's one of those things I couldn't help so they won't give a shit.

if you have to insist you think for yourself, i'm not going to believe you.

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Definitely not the wisest of impulse buys. XFX is the PNY of AMD, the cheapest board partner with some of the least effective cooling, and best buy always charges more than everyone else, plus you have to pay sales tax.

 

When all is said and done you probably paid almost 100 more than what you could have gotten by waiting, and gotten a better quality card. You probably could have gotten a sapphire 390x for the same price.

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NO VGA?!?!?!? I'M OUT.

 

But at least the unboxing for that is better than that of my 7950. Ew.

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Definitely not the wisest of impulse buys. XFX is the PNY of AMD, the cheapest board partner with some of the least effective cooling, and best buy always charges more than everyone else, plus you have to pay sales tax.

 

When all is said and done you probably paid almost 100 more than what you could have gotten by waiting, and gotten a better quality card. You probably could have gotten a sapphire 390x for the same price.

Why, just because stable gaming OCs for my card are only 50-75MHz higher than stock? My max OC is only 130MHz more? And the fact that this thing is LOUD AND HOT.

 

At least the VRAM OCs nice.

 

TL;DR: I agree that XFX is shit.

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NO VGA?!?!?!? I'M OUT.

 

But at least the unboxing for that is better than that of my 7950. Ew.

 

No one uses VGA anymore, even DVI is starting to go away. DisplayPort and HDMI 2 is the future.

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