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[Motherboard] Features v.s. Costs less, and expand elsewhere

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buy who really wants a 50 dollar board lol

People who want to get the most performance for their money.  A $50 Intel motherboard is pretty damn good and is compatible with an i7-4790k if you want.  Then the next level up is $60, which is a mid to high end motherboard that has tons of features, and allows for overclocking.  Intel has modernized their voltage regulation so it is done on the chip, motherboard is all about features and aesthetics. 

 

Gigabyte B85M - $40

Asus Z87-A - $60

 


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@incarnate: not sounding like an jerk. I deal with fanboys in comments sections, so you sound perfectly logical.

 

Anyhow, I kept looking at all types of motherboards, and I found one motherboard that looks good. A bit low on the features, but...around the correct price range:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157528

 

If I am going to get an Intel CPU, I want to overclock it, especially if it has less cores. I am a Linux user, and I definitely like building from source. The CPU that will go in this board will probably be the i5 4690k. The Xeons aren't looking to hot at the price ranges, but I will have to keep looking...

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@incarnate: not sounding like an jerk. I deal with fanboys in comments sections, so you sound perfectly logical.

 

Anyhow, I kept looking at all types of motherboards, and I found one motherboard that looks good. A bit low on the features, but...around the correct price range:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157528

 

If I am going to get an Intel CPU, I want to overclock it, especially if it has less cores. I am a Linux user, and I definitely like building from source. The CPU that will go in this board will probably be the i5 4690k. The Xeons aren't looking to hot at the price ranges, but I will have to keep looking...

That is a good entry level motherboard and you can't go wrong with it.

 

If you want something a little more feature rich, the Asus Z97-E is terrific value at only $90 after $20 MIR and comes with a lot more features.

 

You can't go wrong with either when paired with an i5-4690k


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hey, fun fact, some most powerful intel chips in the world have the worst single core perfomance then a 8350. they 12+core chips are just a bunch of atom cores slapped togeather. its powerful because theres so many of them. so the core amount is irrelevent, overall power is.

 

Now that's just not true, not to mention the statement itself not making much sense either.


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Alright, I think I found the solution. Cut the optical drive. Save it for later. I do have one laying around my house, even if it is older. Anyhow, I am going with the slightly more expensive ASRock Z97 Extreme3, for $115, which comes out just about perfect, so I can overclock and have a PCIe 3.0 slot, and a nice . So, then here is my build:

 

CPU: Intel 4690k (I don't need your sissy HD graphics.  ;) )

GPU: r9 290X older edition (I don't need DX12, and the core clock is 20MHz higher. Hmmm...)

MOBO: ASRock Z97 Extreme3 (for a bit of overclocking my 4690k)

PSU: Cooler Master 750W PSU 80 Plus Gold ed.

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 2400MHz

STR: SAMSUNG 120GB SSD w/ TOSHIBA 1TB HDD

CASE: NZXT Phantom Full ATX case

 

Well, I did learn something while working on this build. Your Motherboard doesn't need all those bells and whistles.  ;)

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Alright, I got a question for you all about a Motherboard I am putting in a $1000 PC build.

I originally thought to go with the ASUS M5A99FX AMD AM3+ socket board, (I am using an AMD FX-8350 because of massive price lead on Intel. The next closest I saw was a pretty good i3. But that is not important, and please do not judge. This is a buget PC right here.) but then I saw another motherboard, the GIGABYTE GA-990FX-UD3 with less extra features, but a more appealing price at $20 less.

Now, I did cut a little on some other parts to get a better PSU (80 PLUS Gold Cooler Master), to ensure no failures, just to let you know. But, with the GIGABYTE mobo, I could get some better specs with those others. (16 GB of RAM instead of 8 GB, a larger SSD/dual HDDs, whatever.) I don't see an essential difference, except the fact that the ASUS just has a lot of appealing features, and the fact that I have heard that ASUS just makes really good Mobos.

Got anything you can share with me on this?

 

(I hate people who make you google stuff to answer their question, so here are newegg links to the two boards. "Brotip: Don't be that guy" ;))

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128514

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131851

get an msi 970 gaming, done

intel fanboys will probably convince you to get this though

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Now that's just not true, not to mention the statement itself not making much sense either.

Look at there server grade chips, the ones that cost 2k+. There single core performance sucks(relative to high end consumer cores), but there's so many cores it makes up for it. And for servers, everything they do can use as many cores as possible, so it doesn't matter

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@incarnate: not sounding like an jerk. I deal with fanboys in comments sections, so you sound perfectly logical.

 

Anyhow, I kept looking at all types of motherboards, and I found one motherboard that looks good. A bit low on the features, but...around the correct price range:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157528

 

If I am going to get an Intel CPU, I want to overclock it, especially if it has less cores. I am a Linux user, and I definitely like building from source. The CPU that will go in this board will probably be the i5 4690k. The Xeons aren't looking to hot at the price ranges, but I will have to keep looking...

 

i can understand the desire to overclock, i'd still recommend the xeon 1231 v3 however if you're going to be doing heavily multi-threaded workloads. it may not be able to be overclocked but it does have some very strong cores and hyperthreading, it will out perform an i5. not that the i5 will be a slouch to say the least. i think you'll be happy with either one honestly :)

 

yeah, dealing with fanboys can be tough. you use logic with them and they just keep spouting the same non-sense. I'm glad you didn't take offence to my comment. When i re-read it, it seemed like i was coming off as a jerk.


My rig:
CPU: i5 4690k 24/7 @4.4ghz (1.165v) Max 4.7ghz (1.325v) COOLER: NZXT Kraken X61 MOBO: Asus Z97-A   RAM: 16GB Crucial Ballistix Tactical   GPU: EVGA GTX 970 SSC   PSU: EVGA GS 650W   CASE: NZXT Phantom 530 HDD: WD Caviar Blue 1TB + WD Black 2TB

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buy who really wants a 50 dollar board lol

 

 with intel, you can get a good 50.00 board. people doing budget builds or wanting to free up money for a better graphics card go for those boards. they are hard to beat and you don't sacrifice stability, just features. with amd platforms, the dirt cheap boards tend to also be unstable.


My rig:
CPU: i5 4690k 24/7 @4.4ghz (1.165v) Max 4.7ghz (1.325v) COOLER: NZXT Kraken X61 MOBO: Asus Z97-A   RAM: 16GB Crucial Ballistix Tactical   GPU: EVGA GTX 970 SSC   PSU: EVGA GS 650W   CASE: NZXT Phantom 530 HDD: WD Caviar Blue 1TB + WD Black 2TB

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i can understand the desire to overclock, i'd still recommend the xeon 1231 v3 however if you're going to be doing heavily multi-threaded workloads. it may not be able to be overclocked but it does have some very strong cores and hyperthreading, it will out perform an i5. not that the i5 will be a slouch to say the least. i think you'll be happy with either one honestly :)

 

yeah, dealing with fanboys can be tough. you use logic with them and they just keep spouting the same non-sense. I'm glad you didn't take offence to my comment. When i re-read it, it seemed like i was coming off as a jerk.

 

Well, I looked at the 1226 and the 1231, and I like the 1231 because of hyperthreading. So, I cut a little more off my SSD, so now I am going to have to fit Linux+Essential software onto 64GB, and everything else on my 1TB Toshiba. But, this helps, because now I am at 993.93, which leaves enough for shipping and a little bit extra to tack onto something else...

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Well, I looked at the 1226 and the 1231, and I like the 1231 because of hyperthreading. So, I cut a little more off my SSD, so now I am going to have to fit Linux+Essential software onto 64GB, and everything else on my 1TB Toshiba. But, this helps, because now I am at 993.93, which leaves enough for shipping and a little bit extra to tack onto something else...

Here is a beautifully color-coordinated Workstation and Gaming rig:

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xBgLxr

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xBgLxr/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($231.95 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: Asus Z87-A (NFC Express Edition) ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($60.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: Apotop 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($99.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($51.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.47 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290X 4GB Tri-X Video Card  ($269.99 @ Newegg)

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($97.99 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($52.00 @ Newegg)

Total: $913.36

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-03 18:23 EDT-0400

 

You could also easily get away with less expensive components within this build, but I wanted to show you something reasonable, and special.

 

This build allows for incredibly day one performance, and lots of upgrade capabilities, all while being about $100 under budget.


"I genuinely dislike the promulgation of false information, especially to people who are asking for help selecting new parts."

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Here is a beautifully color-coordinated Workstation and Gaming rig:

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xBgLxr

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xBgLxr/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($231.95 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: Asus Z87-A (NFC Express Edition) ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($60.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: Apotop 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($99.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($51.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.47 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290X 4GB Tri-X Video Card  ($269.99 @ Newegg)

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($97.99 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($52.00 @ Newegg)

Total: $913.36

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-03 18:23 EDT-0400

 

You could also easily get away with less expensive components within this build, but I wanted to show you something reasonable, and special.

 

This build allows for incredibly day one performance, and lots of upgrade capabilities, all while being about $100 under budget.

 

*nudge nudge* canada

 

*nudge nudge* i'm dumb lol


My rig:
CPU: i5 4690k 24/7 @4.4ghz (1.165v) Max 4.7ghz (1.325v) COOLER: NZXT Kraken X61 MOBO: Asus Z97-A   RAM: 16GB Crucial Ballistix Tactical   GPU: EVGA GTX 970 SSC   PSU: EVGA GS 650W   CASE: NZXT Phantom 530 HDD: WD Caviar Blue 1TB + WD Black 2TB

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*nudge nudge* canada

Oh, didn't notice, all of his links were U.S, and the pricing of a Z97 Extreme3 in Canda is $179 according to PcP.

 

@robinspi

 

If you're located in Canada:

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/s7vnqs

Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/s7vnqs/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($310.38 @ shopRBC)

Motherboard: ASRock B85 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($67.95 @ Vuugo)

Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($129.99 @ NCIX)

Storage: Sandisk Solid State Drive 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($63.98 @ DirectCanada)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.98 @ DirectCanada)

Video Card: Club 3D Radeon R9 290 4GB Royalking Video Card  ($309.99 @ NCIX)

Case: Thermaltake Versa H22 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($42.00 @ DirectCanada)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ NCIX)

Total: $1043.26

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-03 20:21 EDT-0400

 

Could also go with 8GB of RAM to start and upgrade to 16GB later, that will bring you below $1,000


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wait... these threads are starting to blend together.... my bad faceman....  this one wasn't a canadian pricing thread... -.-


My rig:
CPU: i5 4690k 24/7 @4.4ghz (1.165v) Max 4.7ghz (1.325v) COOLER: NZXT Kraken X61 MOBO: Asus Z97-A   RAM: 16GB Crucial Ballistix Tactical   GPU: EVGA GTX 970 SSC   PSU: EVGA GS 650W   CASE: NZXT Phantom 530 HDD: WD Caviar Blue 1TB + WD Black 2TB

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