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Steam now allows game developers to ban users from their games

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If you are VAC banned you are vac banned in all games that support VAC.

Theres a list of them on wikipedia .

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https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7849-Radz-6869

 

You should have added some clarification for the 'If you are VAC banned you are vac banned in all games that support VAC' As that isn't completely true.

 

 

But on the actual topic I do think this implementation is a good idea. Yes, there will be developers who will exploit it and I'm sure Valve will deal with them quickly and swiftly if things begin to get out of hand. Games like Payday 2 are riddled with cheaters and up to now there hasn't been much in the way of counteracting those cheaters, they have implemented some cheater detection but only properly works when you're the host. I don't quite understand all the hate that has been brought up for this as I only see this as a good thing, yes there will be a few bad eggs, but I highly doubt they would stay in position especially for the fact of how publicized developer shenanigans gets. Additionally I'm under the assumption that the policy for lifting the bans will be much more lenient, let's say a user is able to provide proof that they were falsely banned I'm sure Valve would lift the ban as it is a completely different situation than the VAC Banning.  And if from that proof it showed that the developer was doing some fishy stuff in terms of banning, I'm also sure that they would get banning rights revoked.


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Posted · Original PosterOP

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https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7849-Radz-6869

 

You should have added some clarification for the 'If you are VAC banned you are vac banned in all games that support VAC' As that isn't completely true.

 

Indeed , I admit I confused that a bit.

If you cheat on ANY gold source game you are vac banned in every one of them.

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Is VAC limited to the specific game you were banned from? I was under the impression it had broader consequences.

It is specific if the game isn't from Valve. If you get banned from the game made by Valve on Source engine (HL/CS/TF2 etc.) then it applies to all Source games.

 

Example: I'm banned from CoD:AW, but I can play Black Ops 2, TF2, L4D... pretty much everything except AW.

 

EDIT: heh, too late.


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this can be used to retaliate against game critics


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this can be used to retaliate against game critics

The game critic then could easily publicize the false ban and completely destroy the company that was doing the false retaliation. The developers would have much more to lose from falsely banning someone from their game for that reason, as it does not stop them from telling everyone else in other places about the wrong doings. Which would spread like wildfire.


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The game critic then could easily publicize the false ban and completely destroy the company that was doing the false retaliation. The developers would have much more to lose from banning someone from a game, as it does not stop them from telling everyone else in other places about the wrong doings. 

Some developers never got the memo, just look at what Jim Sterling went through.


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Some developers never got the memo, just look at what Jim Sterling went through.

And that's their loss. If they pull shit, they get destroyed. Which in this situation is completely fair. It would actual do a natural selection thing of sorts, destroying the bad developers and keeping the good clean developers in business. And would probably discourage developers from carrying out such an act by seeing the consequences.


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this isnt a steam issue , i mean if its abused its not valves fault its the shady developer  that is at fault


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this isnt a steam issue , i mean if its abused its not valves fault its the shady developer  that is at fault

Exactly, and the developer would die in a fire almost instantly the second any word got out that they were doing some dodgy things.


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this isnt a steam issue , i mean if its abused its not valves fault its the shady developer  that is at fault

 

The majority of Steam is shady developers at this point :P

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The majority of Steam is shady developers at this point :P

This would likely expose the super shady developers. As I guarantee you the second any developer places a ban for a shady reason on someone, you're going to see it everywhere, and that developer will be no more.


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I support paid mods as long as its optional, and the mod makers/people who host the website get the vast majority, if not 100%.

for this, My concern is devs banning people who give negative reviews. or a auto ban system, and people report others willy nilly to get them out of the game.

Donations to mod creators I fully support, but making people pay for mods and hardly giving the creator shit is just insane.


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Donations to mod creators I fully support, but making people pay for mods and hardly giving the creator shit is just insane.

 

The mod creators should have a fixed 50% MINIMUM rate.

Anything lower than that is day light robbery.

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That's uncessarly rude. No, if I get banned with no explanation from a game, I want my money back. Otherwise I could troll people and report them cheating so they lose 60$. Be a good way to get back at the enemy team.

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The mod creators should have a fixed 50% MINIMUM rate.

Anything lower than that is day light robbery.

People don't really seem to get that.


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