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Cooling AMD FX-8350 @ Stock

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Case fans are ON. Hmm.. even though It's silent Knight? It is big, and it is an aftermarket cooler, however it was designed in the ages where we had Core2Quad's . 95W. This cpu is at 125W.

So wondering if it's still okay. Idle temps etc are still fine. But yeah, I'll try reapplying thermal paste once I get home.

Looked it up and it might not be that great, I was confused with another cooler. You could try using the stock cooler, maybe it'll give you better temps but I doubt it. Is your CPU overclocked? Because if your stock cooler still gives temps over 70 degrees at stock that's really weird.

Okay, I've never experienced problems before,

however seems like this setup isn't enough.

  • CPU AMD FX-8350 (Stock)
  • Motherboard Asus Sabertooth 990 FX Rev 1.0
  • RAM 16 GB Crucial DDR3 1600MHz
  • GPU XFX Radeon HD 6990 4GB (Stock)
  • Case AeroCool X-Strike GT
  • Storage 2x HDD Drives. 640GB 3.5" + 240GB 2.5"
  • PSU Aerocool V750
  • Display(s) Samsung SyncMaster SA700
  • Cooling CPU: Asus Silent Knight II + 7x120mm Case fans
  • Operating System Windows 7 64x Ultimate

Currently the FX 8350 is at stock, and cooled with an Asus Silent Knight II which was previously used on a core2quad successfully.

My idle temps are around 40'C and I've never really experiened problems when case fans were active aswell.

If i play games such as CS:GO on max settings 1080p, the CPU will overheat  and shut down, unless case fans are active.

When they are, I am around 55-60'C.

 

However today I tried GTA V

Even with all case fans on MAX, the cpu core temp goes up to 74+ and the pc completely shuts down to prevent damage.. Wtf.

 

Any advice on how i should cool this ? - I'd hate to have a huge chunky block of iron in there.

 
 

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I don't think 74c is a temperature that will cause your computer to shutdown.

 

A 120mm AIO or a Hyper 212 Evo would be a good bet.

 

240mm AIO if you can fit it in there.

That's not supposed to do that....

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Okay, I've never experienced problems before,

120mm are terrible. Don't go that route. 240mm if you want any kind of price to performance. However an evo 212 is the golden child of cheap cooling. There are quite a few cpu coolers that can keep that cpu in check with even on OC under the 50 dollar mark. If you want serious cooling at a reasonable price, maybe the nhd14. I have seen those as low as 65.

 

However 74 core temp won't cause shut down. So this might not even be the issue.

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I don't think 74c is a temperature that will cause your computer to shutdown.

 

A 120mm AIO or a Hyper 212 Evo would be a good bet.

 

240mm AIO if you can fit it in there.

AMD FX series, have a low temp tolerance. I checked, their max temp is around 70'C.

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If you want serious cooling at a reasonable price, maybe the nhd14. I have seen those as low as 65.

That's what i call a huge chunk of metal lol. Maybe watercooling IS the way to go. 2x120mm top mounted.

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Seems like GTA 5 is a CPU digger :-D

Never experienced this kind og heat before.

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That's what i call a huge chunk of metal lol. Maybe watercooling IS the way to go. 2x120mm top mounted.

Yeah the only reason to go AIO under 2x120mm is because of looks. I can promise that any 120mm can be beat out by it's air cooling counterpart at similar prices. However if you are not overclocking then you probably should not be investing that much anyway. An evo 212 should be more than sufficient for stock clocks. Even decent overclock. My friend runs his 8320 at 4.4ghz on an evo 212 and I believe he has temps maxing out around 80. Which is not dangerous. That's pretty much where anyone's max thermal limit should be before it even becomes "unhealthy" for the cpu.

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Even decent overclock. My friend runs his 8320 at 4.4ghz on an evo 212 and I believe he has temps maxing out around 80. Which is not dangerous. That's pretty much where anyone's max thermal limit should be before it even becomes "unhealthy" for the cpu.

My pc shuts down when the CPU reaches 80 though. So I'm fairly sure that it isn't safe. I've checked all other temps, everything else is fine.

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My pc shuts down when the CPU reaches 80 though. So I'm fairly sure that it isn't safe. I've checked all other temps, everything else is fine.

It's safe.... cpu's don't even thermal throttle until 90. 100 is when they shut down to prevent damage. 80 is fine, anything lower is better of course. It's safe I promise lol. The only thing I can ask is that you are sure it's turning off at 80c exactly? It's not 78 or 80 or 79, I just want to make sure it's something consistent and repeatable. 

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clean ur cooler and order a new one lol

the stock cooler for the 8350 is krap once u spark up all 8 cores

maybe kill turbo core it might buy u a few degrees

 

 

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clean ur cooler and order a new one lol

the stock cooler for the 8350 is krap once u spark up all 8 cores

maybe kill turbo core it might buy u a few degrees

I'm not using a stock cooler.

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It's safe.... cpu's don't even thermal throttle until 90. 100 is when they shut down to prevent damage. 80 is fine, anything lower is better of course. It's safe I promise lol. The only thing I can ask is that you are sure it's turning off at 80c exactly? It's not 78 or 80 or 79, I just want to make sure it's something consistent and repeatable. 

Before you tell someone something is safe you should probably check. AMD CPU's are not made the same way as intel chips and will burn out at lower temps. 

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It's safe.... cpu's don't even thermal throttle until 90. 100 is when they shut down to prevent damage. 80 is fine, anything lower is better of course. It's safe I promise lol. The only thing I can ask is that you are sure it's turning off at 80c exactly? It's not 78 or 80 or 79, I just want to make sure it's something consistent and repeatable. 

It's between 73-80'C. I tested this with AIDA64. Enabling case fans keeps the cpu at 60'C, never shuts down. I now Intel CPU's don't have a problem unless they go 90'C. I own one too in another pc. But AMD's FX series are different, they don't tolerate as much heat, as google provided.

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Easy, disable AMD TurboCore(that spikes voltage and speed which makes it run hotter), downvolt to 1.35V or something.

I have my 8320 at 3.5GHZ at 1.29V on Stock Cooler.

I get 35C idle temps.

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It's between 73-80'C. I tested this with AIDA64. Enabling case fans keeps the cpu at 60'C, never shuts down. I now Intel CPU's don't have a problem unless they go 90'C. I own one too in another pc. But AMD's FX series are different, they don't tolerate as much heat, as google provided.

I never said that it was safe to run them beyond 80, they might burn out before they hit 100 but that does not mean you will be damaging your cpu under 80. As I said before. It's safe to run it under 80.(again anything lower is better). I do believe the 8350's might actually shut down at 90c. In fact I can't think of any cpu or gpu that has been made in recent years that becomes in danger at 80. Especially not a high end amd cpu. Under 80 is fine and if you don't believe me then I guess I can't help you. It must be heat then. 

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I never said that it was safe to run them beyond 80, they might burn out before they hit 100 but that does not mean you will be damaging your cpu under 80. As I said before. It's safe to run it under 80.(again anything lower is better). I do believe the 8350's might actually shut down at 90c. In fact I can't think of any cpu or gpu that has been made in recent years that becomes in danger at 80. Especially not a high end amd cpu. Under 80 is fine and if you don't believe me then I guess I can't help you. It must be heat then. 

No one is going to recommend you run an fx chip over 75, hell most people would tell people to stop overclocking an FX if they break into the 70's. also depending on motherboard maker most of the ones I have overclocked on force a shutdown at a socket temp of between 70 and 80 by default.

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No one is going to recommend you run an fx chip over 75, hell most people would tell people to stop overclocking an FX if they break into the 70's. also depending on motherboard maker most of the ones I have overclocked on force a shutdown at a socket temp of between 70 and 80 by default.

Never heard of that in my life. I wonder how I have seen so many people get into the 70's with those chips and never once have a shutdown issue. But clearly I am wrong because the internet said so here. I give up. 

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Never heard of that in my life. I wonder how I have seen so many people get into the 70's with those chips and never once have a shutdown issue. But clearly I am wrong because the internet said so here. I give up. 

2 things :

1 Socket temp and core temp are not the same thing. 

2 the "Default" Safety shutdown is the default setting implying it can be altered.

 

 

Yes people run the chips harder but if you look past people posting benchmarks you will very commonly see them recommend keeping the chips cooler/backing off the overclocks.

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Well, not the internet, I for one am sitting here with the chip, and it shuts off at 70+ temps :D
So can't really argue or deny that. Fact is fact I guess. I've checked everything else as I said, nothing else is overheating in any way.

But I guess as mentioned the 2x120mm Nepton cooler or something similar would keep this hot chip cool? Preferably below 55'C under load maybe? (Stock settings)

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Any comments? :D

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So the CPU is shutting down when you are not using case fans, that's to be expected. 

If you haven't got the case fans running the cpu heatsink will keep on using the same air which will heat up and so does the cpu, resulting in a shutdown. 

You have to use the case fans, they are there for a reason. 

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So the CPU is shutting down when you are not using case fans, that's to be expected. 

If you haven't got the case fans running the cpu heatsink will keep on using the same air which will heat up and so does the cpu, resulting in a shutdown. 

You have to use the case fans, they are there for a reason. 

As previously mentioned, I tested with and without case fans, in order to see what gets "too hot". Which i found out was the CPU.

And as also previously mentioned, while playing GTA V, all 7 case fans are on maximum, yet the cpu STILL gets to 73-74'C.

Close to shutting Down.

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2 things :

1 Socket temp and core temp are not the same thing. 

2 the "Default" Safety shutdown is the default setting implying it can be altered.

 

 

Yes people run the chips harder but if you look past people posting benchmarks you will very commonly see them recommend keeping the chips cooler/backing off the overclocks.

As I see it, this CPU is going to last me some years yet to come, as most AAA games are recommended to run with this exact FX-8350 (such as GTA V). So keeping it alive, and preventing extra cost has been a priority. Maybe games usually don't demand that much of the CPU, (League of legends, CS:Go, Civilization V, GRID2), however this GTA V has pressured it into a corner. So first time experiencing this. All 8 cores are constantly between 40-80% usage Some more than others. (I can see this on MSI afterburner on keyboard LCD while playing).

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have u tried going into your bios and just maxing out your cpu fan

might be louder but at least it will be cool, if that dont work buy a new cooler or u can try some new thermal paste on your processor

 

 

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have u tried going into your bios and just maxing out your cpu fan

might be louder but at least it will be cool, if that dont work buy a new cooler or u can try some new thermal paste on your processor

Hm... Maybe the stupid BIOS doesn't know that the CPU has a thermal limit around 70+, so it doesn't ramp enough. Good point. Will look into this.

-then Again, with 7 case fans, the air flow SHOULD be enough to cool the CPU, if the heat sink was big enough?

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