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AMD FX 6 month conclusion

I only have an 8350 and my VRMs were cooking at 80C at 4.6ghz, imagine a 9590 on the board.... And i have a Sabertooth 990fx 2.0. 

Hes in denial (Yeah ik coming from me but i learned didnt I?) 

Check the power usage in HW monitor, so far I've found it to be actually quite accurate on my i5 4440, Xeon X5450, QX 6850 and both E6500K's. (Highest power consumption in wattage that I recorded was 111.3W with the Xeon at 4GHz, the i5 4440 uses only 33W and outperforms the Xeon by a fairly large margin (the Xeon can get within spitting distance however when benchmarking).

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Check the power usage in HW monitor, so far I've found it to be actually quite accurate on my i5 4440, Xeon X5450, QX 6850 and both E6500K's. (Highest power consumption in wattage that I recorded was 111.3W with the Xeon at 4GHz, the i5 4440 uses only 33W and outperforms the Xeon by a fairly large margin (the Xeon can get within spitting distance however when benchmarking).

I will sometime (machine off now) but the lights dimmed in the room when i turn it on so that says alot.

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I will sometime (machine off now) but the lights dimmed in the room when i turn it on so that says alot.

Pmsl, if people say they aren't concerned about power consumption with their FX 8***/9*** CPU's, I just need to quote you :P .

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Pmsl, if people say they aren't concerned about power consumption with their FX 8***/9*** CPU's, I just need to quote you :P .

lmao ikr, but then again i was at 1.5V (my rm850 was sweating)

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lmao ikr, but then again i was at 1.5V (my rm850 was sweating)

That's about the voltage on FX 9590's, so it still applies. (The stock voltages vary greatly since they are factory overclocked CPU).

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I will sometime (machine off now) but the lights dimmed in the room when i turn it on so that says alot.

My machine does that as well like there's a power surge firing up the arch reactor. Although it's not the power draw I think it's the PSU filling up its capacitors or something else as I don't run anything power hungry in my machine except the GPU (which also could be the culprit as it runs at 100% until the windows driver loads).

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My machine does that as well like there's a power surge firing up the arch reactor. Although it's not the power draw I think it's the PSU filling up its capacitors or something else as I don't run anything power hungry in my machine except the GPU (which also could be the culprit as it runs at 100% until the windows driver loads).

That's only a 650W PSU, even with my 970 and 650ti in the same rig maxing out my vs650, I don't have the lights dimming.

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That's only a 650W PSU, even with my 970 and 650ti in the same rig maxing out my vs650, I don't have the lights dimming.

It still causes the lights to flicker really quick you just have to be staring blank at something as you turn the machine on to notice it. It could be a problem with a pole fuse or the main feed into the house. Most suggest the flickering is due to arcing which could be a serious problem (burn your house down).

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Folks that compare temparatures with AMD and Intel;

 

For the last f*** time, they are not comparable. AMD has different sensors, so they tend to show much lower temparatures.

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Folks that compare temparatures with AMD and Intel;

 

For the last f*** time, they are not comparable. AMD has different sensors, so they tend to show much lower temparatures.

AMD uses only one sensor on their chips as the package temperature unlike Intel that uses a sensor for each core. There's a lot of factors in play when comparing the two as Intel no longer solders the IHS to the die because of how fragile the die is now. You'll get superior thermal transfer from solder than thermal compound. Which is why a lot of people delid their Intel chips and replace the crappy compound with something better and see ~10C temperature improvements.

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the 9590 is fine

 

says a 9590 owner

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so i think it was worth upgrading from fx 6300 stock to i5 4440 ?

That's a tough call. You'd have to decide if the improvement you'll get will be worth the price of the chip and a new motherboard. You will see some improvements, sure. But also, the i5 4440 is the entry level i5 chip. Is the difference gonna rock your world? Probably not. I think you'd get more for your upgrade dollars saving up for an i5 4690/4690k. 

Also, before it is suggested (if it hasn't been already) I wouldn't waste anymore money on AM3+. An 8350 will show you practically no benefit in just about any gaming workload you'll throw at it over a 6300. The IPC clock for clock is identical and you can match the 8350 with a clock bump.

 

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lol the bottleneck in your build is real

With the 9590, you can just smell AMD's desperation. 

Or maybe that's the faint smell of burning electronics. 

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With the 9590, you can just smell AMD's desperation. 

Or maybe that's the faint smell of burning electronics. 

Think about it, it was over $900 at launch and then rapidly dropped in price. Its nothing but a cash grab.

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With the 9590, you can just smell AMD's desperation. 

Or maybe that's the faint smell of burning electronics. 

Everytime I see a 9590 owner I die a little inside.

 

Everytime I see a 9590 owner defend the 9590 I die a lot inside.

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Everytime I see a 9590 owner I die a little inside.

 

Everytime I see a 9590 owner defend the 9590 I die a lot inside.

I have a friend who had a motherboard catch on fire from that chip. He took it back to Microcenter and the guy there didn't even seem surprised. 

He still defends it. smfh

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I have a friend who had a motherboard catch on fire from that chip. He took it back to Microcenter and the guy there didn't even seem surprised. 

He still defends it. smfh

*sigh* with a Xeon X5450 running on a 3+1 phase motherboard with 1.45V being pumped through the CPU (451MHz FSB) I didn't set the motherboard on fire. Its still electrically sound after being under such a heavy load, but I killed its CPU socket when I dropped the thermal paste covered Xeon into the socket. I think the fact that so many AM3+ boards are actually able to catch fire speaks volumes about their quality, and my P5K -VM wasn't exactly high end when new (no VRM heatsinks, mATX).

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*sigh* with a Xeon X5450 running on a 3+1 phase motherboard with 1.45V being pumped through the CPU (451MHz FSB) I didn't set the motherboard on fire. Its still electrically sound after being under such a heavy load, but I killed its CPU socket when I dropped the thermal paste covered Xeon into the socket. I think the fact that so many AM3+ boards are actually able to catch fire speaks volumes about their quality, and my P5K -VM wasn't exactly high end when new (no VRM heatsinks, mATX).

Well, they have a 220watt TDP (typical of tdp ratings, what they actually use is much higher). To be fair, a lot of it is caused by people trying to use them with just any old socket AM3+. The 9590 has special requirements. However, in my friend's case, he was using a 9590 ready sabertoooth board that still had a bit of a smoking habit. lol 

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Well, they have a 220watt TDP (typical of tdp ratings, what they actually use is much higher). To be fair, a lot of it is caused by people trying to use them with just any old socket AM3+. The 9590 has special requirements. However, in my friend's case, he was using a 9590 ready sabertoooth board that still had a bit of a smoking habit. lol 

Another fried motherboard says ASUS went dirt cheap with the VRM.

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Oh, the memories......

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That might be a Inwin Case. My very first build, P3 had a Inwin case. Always wanted one of them AT cases that had the Turbo button with the LCD display. Press the Turbo and the MHz goes from 166MHz to 266MHz, even if it doesn't do anything. lol

IBM did it back then with their desktop, It had a turbo knob (looks like the one on a Corsair 600T) and it actually works. Turn it all the way up and the machine runs a lot faster.

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So you bought AMD just so you could have fun overclocking?  That is your reason?  Because even a heavily overclocked FX8 doesn't beat a locked i5.  Flawed rationale.

 

Not really. I bought a G3258 to have fun overclocking knowing full well that putting the money I spent on a cooler would yield better performance if it went on an i3 instead. Sometimes the performance isn't the point.

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Not really. I bought a G3258 to have fun overclocking knowing full well that putting the money I spent on a cooler would yield better performance if it went on an i3 instead. Sometimes the performance isn't the point.

Which is why I bought a Xeon X5450, 2xE6500K, 1xQX6850, Pentium 4 631, Core 2 Duo E8500. Only 1 of those CPU are relistically faster than an FX CPU in games, but they are mainly about overclocking for fun now, so I got by with them. (1 weeks full use per CPU at maximum stable OC while opperating under 750C-the Pentium's suck compared to Core 2's with thier lower cache).

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We do not sell cosmetics. We just blind animals."

 

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Well, they have a 220watt TDP (typical of tdp ratings, what they actually use is much higher). To be fair, a lot of it is caused by people trying to use them with just any old socket AM3+. The 9590 has special requirements. However, in my friend's case, he was using a 9590 ready sabertoooth board that still had a bit of a smoking habit. lol 

 

I dont understand. Dont those cpus/motherdoards have somekind of protection in place (ie, a 4 phase mobo wont take 220W monster) ?

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