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So a friend of mine recently went to the school IT technician and asked if he had some spare computer parts. Lo and behold, there's a bunch of spares from the old school, so he takes a number of parts (motherboard, some sticks of ram etc.) and decides to take it all apart at home. Now bear in mind, this guy is doing art as an A level, and his intention is to cut up the components to make it into the shape of a map. He then wonders, whilst taking it apart, why things like the capacitors and such won't just come off, believing they were put on the motherboard in slots, and therefore should just pop off without any force being required. Oh, and he didn't think that the MoBo would be difficult to cut, and wondered why it wasn't just tearing like paper and when he applied pressure, the thing practically shattered on him.

He confused silicon with silicone maybe :P? Yeah, MoBo's aren't made from jelly.


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He confused silicon with silicone maybe :P? Yeah, MoBo's aren't made from jelly.

This guy has about as much common sense as a 5 year old being offered candy, so I'm not surprised at all.


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So I tried to actually be helpful on Today on Yahoo Answers 

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I guess I'm tired of people not using google to find answers like these first as most laptops do not have upgradeable components...

Actually, any laptop that isn't classified as ultraportable, subnotebook or netbook has upgradeable components. And believe it or not, the most hated laptop manufacturer on this forum (Apple HP) is makes easily upgradeable business-grade laptops. And, if you're brave enough and are sure that the CPU isn't soldered in, you can swap the CPU of a laptop.


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Most cannot though. With laptops getting thinner and thinner, most of the components are soldered on. Usually, if you want to upgrade the processor in a laptop it's time to get a new laptop.

Call me crazy, but I actually plan on upgrading the CPU of a laptop. And not on my own laptop. And it's a laptop that should not get broken.


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Call me crazy, but I actually plan on upgrading the CPU of a laptop. And not on my own laptop. And it's a laptop that should not get broken.

Good luck m9


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It's still hard to explain that playing with ridiculous high FPS on a 60Hz monitor makes no sense... They also say they do notice the difference... I need to put them in front of a 144Hz monitor...

Let him play at 144hz for 20 mins, then cut it down to 60hz. From what I hear, his eyes will start to bleed and only then will he believe you.


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Well I used to have an eMachine, my parents bought it for me for my birthday so I would finally have a computer to use. It was absurdly slow, and had terrible integrated graphics (God help me.) and a few years after I've had the computer I told my parents I really needed a new computer that could process my games faster and could actually play them. They tried to tell me that if I would delete a bunch of, as they said, "Shit." I could run the games better. So I tried to tell them that's not how it works, but they argued with me. Poor souls. And still to this day they complain on how I've wasted my time and money on my computer.

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So my mom comes to best buy to buy a camera and I get to go look at the gaming periferal and gpu section and a BEST BUY EMPLOYEE comes up to me while I'm looking at the razor blackwidow chroma and k70 rgb and asks, "is this a good gaming keyboard" I spent the next 5 minutes discussing the specs of both, switch type, variations (k65 k95, blackwidow TE) etc.


 

 

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Well I used to have an eMachine, my parents bought it for me for my birthday so I would finally have a computer to use. It was absurdly slow, and had terrible integrated graphics (God help me.) and a few years after I've had the computer I told my parents I really needed a new computer that could process my games faster and could actually play them. They tried to tell me that if I would delete a bunch of, as they said, "Shit." I could run the games better. So I tried to tell them that's not how it works, but they argued with me. Poor souls. And still to this day they complain on how I've wasted my time and money on my computer.

I used to have a HP G60 and a HP Compaq 6715B. I feel your pain. Both are now over 6 years old, and have a horrible performance in games.


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I used to have a HP G60 and a HP Compaq 6715B. I feel your pain. Both are now over 6 years old, and have a horrible performance in games.

Before I bought prebuilt desktops (I know, I was stupid) I had an HP Pavilion dv6615ea. Couldn't even do HL2 with that iGPU.


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Before I bought prebuilt desktops (I know, I was stupid) I had an HP Pavilion dv6615ea. Couldn't even do HL2 with that iGPU.

I have a pentium D (basicly) machine with a HD 5770. I know what you mean right now...

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So I tried to actually be helpful on Today on Yahoo Answers 

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I guess I'm tired of people not using google to find answers like these first as most laptops do not have upgradeable components...

My laptop has a replacable CPU, and it's from 2010.

 

Serious question here: can scratch really be considered a programming language? I think of it as a coding minigame really. Opinions?

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Before I bought prebuilt desktops (I know, I was stupid) I had an HP Pavilion dv6615ea. Couldn't even do HL2 with that iGPU.

The G60 couldn't eek out HL1 at 50 fps on low. It has a celeron. The 6715B has an AMD x64 dual core. That was probably more powerful.

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The G60 couldn't eek out HL1 at 50 fps on low. It has a celeron. The 6715B has an AMD x64 dual core. That was probably more powerful.

Mine had a Pentium DC T2310 (65 nm, Merom).


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Mine had a Pentium DC T2310 (65 nm, Merom).

Merom, Indiana?


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That's probably what that architecure is named after. It's basically based on the first Core 2 Duos.

Probably. It is a very small town, I only know it because that is what came up when I googled it. I'm assuming you have a Core2Quad?


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Let him play at 144hz for 20 mins, then cut it down to 60hz. From what I hear, his eyes will start to bleed and only then will he believe you.

 

There's a reason why I kinda don't want to try a high refresh-rate monitor...I know I most likely won't be able to afford one (at least one with an IPS panel and in 1440p, which is the next logical upgrade) and having tried 144Hz and then gone back down to 60 would have been such a tease..


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In all fairness if they see two different numbers they'll want to question where the 'extra gigabytes' went. I'd blame the counting system the HDD manufacturers use rather than the non-techies in this instance. We use Gibibyte and Gigabyte interchangeably (anything measured in x1024 should be xbibyte and anything measured in x1000 should be x(a/o)byte).

That HDD 1TiB (Tebibyte), not 1TB (Terabyte). I may have got that the wrong way round...my brain doesn't like dealing with multiples.

You got how they make them backwards but you are otherwise correct. Manufacturers measure in terabytes (based off x1000) but due to the limitations of older operating systems (one that was never addressed later on) the os measures in tibibytes (based off x1024 due to the ease of using binary for storage calculations)

I've built 3 PC's, but none for myself... In fact, I'm using an iMac that my dad bought for me as my desktop. Awkward...

Please don't say "SSD drive." By doing so, you are literally saying "Solid State Drive Drive" and causing my brain cells to commit suicide. The same applies to HDD (Hard Disk Drive) and PCIe (Peripheral Component Interconnect Express).

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My stubborn brother thought he knew about tech a while back. So, one day, he wanted me to fix his computer (This was in the days of the P4). I took off the side while he was watching and he tried to name every part in the computer. He mixed the motherboard with the video card, and he had  no idea what the RAM and hard drives were. So he called them transistors. When I tried to correct him on what they were, he refused to take the correction, and for a long time he named the parts completely wrong.


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So here goes.... In short, this guy is trying to tell me why Mac's are better than PC's and... Well I'll just leave it here... Added some comments in red and some of the dumber bits are made clearly.

 

i completely disagree...the hardware is just metal and other components...it is far from just a PC.  However, if we were to keep that argument, why don't other PC's last that long?  you mention my technology must be ancient, however, i'm doing everything you can do on your new pc, with my 7 year old mac (I bet he is...)...how is that possible?  and wanna know why no one keeps a PC that long, cause they can't last that long without being completely rehabbed...And mac is a software company...but they are proprietary ..There is only 1 mac..there are hundreds of PC's by all kinds of different companies...That is where i feel all gets lost...Samsung doesnt own Android...Cause HTC has it (This really doesn't strengthen any part of his argument if you ask me), and about 20 others have it...No One has IOS except apple  (While true, keep in mind this is about Macs so that must mean Macs run IOS instead of Mac OS according to this guy)...they do it all...you can be upset about it if you want, but that's the reality...apple competes completely on it's own, agains all other companies (You know... Like most companies) in the same industries...There isn't another company on the planet that can say that (Intel perhaps?)...so you don't have to like apple, but you can't deny the success...Call me a sheep if you want, but i can afford it and i'm gonna continue buying it..you can spend your money on something else..be my guest..  ;-)


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not quiet the funniest story, but here I go:

I was building a rig for one of my friends in a nzxt h440, after finishing everything up, it posts perfectly fine and everythings works properly.

The next day he calls me that the h440 logo led was not working. He even asked if he should rma the case.

I told him that before he does it, I would take a look at it. Here comes the embarrassing part: i saw it didn't work (worked the day before) and opened up the case. I followed the cable leading away from the led, only to see that some part of this cable managment seems strange, after some more looking at the cable, i realize that there is a button on the back of the case to turn the led on or off.

I was baffled that i didn't recognize it on the spot. After my discovery, i informed my friend about the button. His excat answer: "oh, that button, that doesn't do anything, yesterday i was curious what it would do if i'd pusch it". Well turns out his computer wasn't even on when he pushed it, and upon starting the rig up, the leds wouldn't work.

I just had to facepalm, at him, not realizing what the button he pushed was for, and at me for taking so long to "fix" the problem, only to find out that there is a button.


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It's always the little things. When I was building for a friend I setup the MOBO on the box to test if it posts. I temporarily hook it all up touch the pins with a screwdriver, nothing. My heart jumped a bit, I was worried we gonna have to RMA something.... Guess what it was.

 

Flicking the PSU on would be a wise choice. :D

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