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18 hours ago, Bitter said:

Her monitor has HDMI, DVI, VGA. Computer has VGA and Display Port. We have HDMI and DVI cables there. 

 

Ugh. Another trip to get a VGA cable. 

She had a VGA cable in the wrong drawer. Oh well, an excuse to drive my fun car.

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I found where the board was shorted, not worth fixing. Some SMD components are rotten and there's gunk under a transistor. I got the recyclable components pulled off, CPU, heat sink/fan, and DDR3 1600. The paste between the HSF and CPU was terrible, huge gaps and dried up. I'm shocked this thing wasn't throttling or maybe it was...I'm also wondering why/how I had put in 1600 memory. I think I have some 1333 here I'll send it back with because there isn't a need for faster memory. Now onto cleaning out the case...gross!

 

TIL that cat urine strips galvanization from PC sheet metal. Nasty.

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18 hours ago, Pi31415 said:

Half these stories are made up now

Everything I've seen is pretty believable.  I've been keeping the best stories because the explanation is so specific that I'm worried the people who did it will find out I'm LOL'ing at them.  People doing the equivalent of deleting "system 32" on computers controlling complicated machines.

 

 

I saw someone who should know better, look me right in the eyes, look at a machine, stick a metal tool across hot leads and short out a control board.  

 

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30 minutes ago, Gmoneyinthebank said:

I saw someone who should know better, look me right in the eyes, look at a machine, stick a metal tool across hot leads and short out a control board.  

I have no idea why someone would do that. Generally, it's a good idea to not even touch boards with a bare finger while in use.


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49 minutes ago, Gegger said:

this is important:

As an enlightened, modern parent, I try to be as involved as possible in the lives of my six children. I encourage them to join team sports. I attend their teen parties with them to ensure no drinking or alcohol is on the premises. I keep afatherly eye on the CDs they listen to and the shows they watch, the company they keep and the books they read. You could say I'm a model parent. My children have never failed to make me proud, and I can say without the slightestembellishment that I have the finest family in the USA.

Two years ago, my wife Carol and I decided that our children's education would not be complete without some grounding in modern computers. To this end, we bought our children a brand new Compaq to learn with. The kids had a lot of fun using the handful of application programs we'd bought, such as Adobe's Photoshopand Microsoft's Word, and my wife and I were pleased that our gift was received so well. Our son Peter was most entranced by the device, and became quite a pro at surfing the net. When Peter began to spend whole days on the machine, I became concerned, but Carol advised me to calm down, and that it was only a passing phase. I was content to bow to her experience as a mother, until our youngest daughter, Cindy, charged into the living room one night to blurt out: "Peter is a computer hacker!"

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As you can imagine, I was amazed. A computer hacker in my own house! I began to monitor my son's habits, to make certain that Cindy wasn't just telling stories, as she is prone to doing at times.

After a few days of investigation, and some research into computer hacking, I confronted Peter with the evidence. I'm afraid to say, this was the only time I have ever been truly disappointed in one of my children. We raised them to be honest and to have integrity, and Peter betrayed the principles we tried to encourage in him, when he refused point blank to admit to his activities. His denials continued for hours, and in the end, I was left with no choice but to ban him from using the computer until he is old enough to be responsible for his actions.

After going through this ordeal with my own family, I was left pondering how I could best help others in similar situations. I'd gained a lot of knowledge over those few days regarding hackers. It's only right that I provide that information to other parents, in the hope that they will be able to tell if their children are being drawninto the world of hacking. Perhaps other parents will be able to steer their sons back onto the straight and narrow before extreme measures need to be employed.

To this end, I have decided to publish the top ten signs that your son is a hacker. I advise any parents to read this list carefully and if their son matches the profile, they should take action. A smart parent will first try to reason with their son, before resorting to groundings, or even spanking. I pride myself that I have never had to spank a child, and I hope this guide will help other parents to put a halt to their son's misbehaviour before a spanking becomes necessary.

1. Has your son asked you to change ISPs?

Most American families use trusted and responsible Internet Service Providers, such as AOL. These providers have a strict "No Hacking" policy, and take careful measures to ensure that your internet experience is enjoyable, educational and above all legal. If your child is becoming a hacker, one of his first steps will be to request a change to a more hacker friendly provider.

I would advise all parents to refuse this request. One of the reasons your son is interested in switching providers is to get away from AOL's child safety filter. This filter is vital to any parent who wants his son to enjoy the internet without the endangering him through exposure to "adult" content. It is best to stick with the protection AOL provides, rather than using a home-based solution. If your son is becoming a hacker, he will be able to circumvent any home-based measures with surprising ease, using information gleaned from various hacker sites.

2. Are you finding programs on your computer that you don't remember installing?

Your son will probably try to install some hacker software. He may attempt to conceal the presence of the software in some way, but you can usually find any new programs by reading through the programs listed under "Install/Remove Programs" in your control panel. Popular hacker software includes "Comet Cursor", "Bonzi Buddy" and "Flash".

The best option is to confront your son with the evidence, and force him to remove the offending programs. He will probably try to install the software again, but you will be able to tell that this is happening, if your machine offers to "download" one of the hacker applications. If this happens, it is time to give your son a stern talking to, and possibly consider punishing him with a grounding.

3. Has your child asked for new hardware?

Computer hackers are often limited by conventional computer hardware. They may request "faster" video cards, and larger hard drives, or even more memory. If your son starts requesting these devices, it is possible that he has a legitimate need. You can best ensure that you are buying legal, trustworthy hardware by only buying replacement parts from your computer's manufacturer.

If your son has requested a new "processor" from a company called "AMD", this is genuine cause for alarm. AMD is a third-world based company who make inferior, "knock-off" copies of American processor chips. They use child labor extensively in their third world sweatshops, and they deliberately disable the security features that American processor makers, such as Intel, use to prevent hacking. AMD chips are never sold in stores, and you will most likely be told that you have to order them from internet sites. Do not buy this chip! This is one request that you must refuse your son, if you are to have any hope of raising him well.

4. Does your child read hacking manuals?

If you pay close attention to your son's reading habits, as I do, you will be able to determine a great deal about his opinions and hobbies. Children are at their most impressionable in the teenage years. Any father who has had a seventeen year old daughter attempt to sneak out on a date wearing make up and perfume is well aware of the effect that improper influences can have on inexperienced minds.

There are, unfortunately, many hacking manuals available in bookshops today. A few titles to be on the lookout for are: "Snow Crash" and "Cryptonomicon" by Neal Stephenson; "Neuromancer" by William Gibson; "Programming with Perl" by Timothy O'Reilly; "Geeks" by Jon Katz; "The Hacker Crackdown" by Bruce Sterling; "Microserfs" by Douglas Coupland; "Hackers" by Steven Levy; and "The Cathedral and the Bazaar" by Eric S. Raymond.

If you find any of these hacking manuals in your child's possession, confiscate them immediately. You should also petition local booksellers to remove these titles from their shelves. You may meet with some resistance at first, but even booksellers have to bow to community pressure.

5. How much time does your child spend using the computer each day?

If your son spends more than thirty minutes each day on the computer, he may be using it to DOS other peoples sites. DOSing involves gaining access to the "command prompt" on other people's machines, and using it to tie up vital internet services. This can take up to eight hours. If your son is doing this, he is breaking the law, and you should stop him immediately. The safest policy is to limit your children's access to the computer to a maximum of forty-five minutes each day.

6. Does your son use Quake?

Quake is an online virtual reality used by hackers. It is a popular meeting place and training ground, where they discuss hacking and train in the use of various firearms. Many hackers develop anti-social tendencies due to the use of this virtual world, and it may cause erratic behaviour at home and at school.

If your son is using Quake, you should make hime understand that this is not acceptable to you. You should ensure all the firearms in your house are carefully locked away, and have trigger locks installed. You should also bring your concerns to the attention of his school.

7. Is your son becoming argumentative and surly in his social behaviour?

As a child enters the electronic world of hacking, he may become disaffected with the real world. He may lose the ability to control his actions, or judge the rightness or wrongness of a course of behaviour. This will manifest itself soonest in the way he treats others. Those whom he disagrees with will be met with scorn, bitterness, and even foul language. He may utter threats of violence of a real or electronic nature.

Even when confronted, your son will probably find it difficult to talk about this problem to you. He will probably claim that there is no problem, and that you are imagining things. He may tell you that it is you who has the problem, and you should "back off" and "stop smothering him." Do not allow yourself to be deceived. You are the only chance your son has, even if he doesn't understand the situation he is in. Keep trying to get through to him, no matter how much he retreats into himself.

8. Is your son obsessed with "Lunix"?

BSD, Lunix, Debian and Mandrake are all versions of an illegal hacker operation system, invented by a Soviet computer hacker named Linyos Torovoltos, before the Russians lost the Cold War. It is based on a program called " xenix", which was written by Microsoft for the US government. These programs are used by hackers to break into other people's computer systems to steal credit card numbers. They may also be used to break into people's stereos to steal their music, using the "mp3" program. Torovoltos is a notorious hacker, responsible for writing many hacker programs, such as "telnet", which is used by hackers to connect to machines on the internet without using a telephone.

Your son may try to install " lunix" on your hard drive. If he is careful, you may not notice its presence, however, lunix is a capricious beast, and if handled incorrectly, your son may damage your computer, and even break it completely by deleting Windows, at which point you will have to have your computer repaired by a professional.

If you see the word "LILO" during your windows startup (just after you turn the machine on), your son has installed lunix. In order to get rid of it, you will have to send your computer back to the manufacturer, and have them fit a new hard drive. Lunix is extremely dangerous software, and cannot be removed without destroying part of your hard disk surface.

9. Has your son radically changed his appearance?

If your son has undergone a sudden change in his style of dress, you may have a hacker on your hands. Hackers tend to dress in bright, day-glo colors. They may wear baggy pants, bright colored shirts and spiky hair dyed in bright colors to match their clothes. They may take to carrying " glow-sticks" and some wear pacifiers around their necks. (I have no idea why they do this) There are many such hackers in schools today, and your son may have started to associate with them. If you notice that your son's group of friends includes people dressed like this, it is time to think about a severe curfew, to protect him from dangerous influences.


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4 minutes ago, Schnoz said:

snipity snapity schnoz

wall of text be like


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I got a 280 mm long graphics card, an AORUS 1660 Ti. It was a micro-ATX case.

 

I had to sacrifice my 3 TB HDD to install it.

 

Make sure to plan your builds, guys.


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Two more for tonight:

 

(Some of you have asked why I have so many stories. I live in the Bay Area and there a lot of people at my school are obsessed with hardware. Not all of them are from this year, but they are all true.)

 

Me: *building a PC with someone while chatting* Make sure to just put on a tiny bit of liquid metal.

 

Him: *accidentally shoots a jet all over the mobo*

 

Me: Oh sh1t! Clean it up! Don't turn it on or you'll brick it!

 

Him: oH iTs PrObAbLy FiNe *turns on PC*

 

And that is how I learned what burning electronics smell like.

 

Story 2:

 

I took apart a disposable camera. The capacitor was still fully charged. I touched it with a metal spudger. Largest, most painful shock I have ever received.


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2 hours ago, Schnoz said:

Two more for tonight:

 

(Some of you have asked why I have so many stories. I live in the Bay Area and there a lot of people at my school are obsessed with hardware. Not all of them are from this year, but they are all true.)

 

Me: *building a PC with someone while chatting* Make sure to just put on a tiny bit of liquid metal.

 

Him: *accidentally shoots a jet all over the mobo*

 

Me: Oh sh1t! Clean it up! Don't turn it on or you'll brick it!

 

Him: oH iTs PrObAbLy FiNe *turns on PC*

 

And that is how I learned what burning electronics smell like.

 

Story 2:

 

I took apart a disposable camera. The capacitor was still fully charged. I touched it with a metal spudger. Largest, most painful shock I have ever received.

no way that's believable. did you just stand there like a smuch while this other guy was turning on the computer ? why do you even have it all plugged in ready to boot while ur messing with thermal paste/liquid metal? why didn't you stop him. why didn't you punch him square in the face when he was closing in on the start button ?


 
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7 hours ago, Norwegiantweaker said:

no way that's believable. did you just stand there like a smuch while this other guy was turning on the computer ? why do you even have it all plugged in ready to boot while ur messing with thermal paste/liquid metal? why didn't you stop him. why didn't you punch him square in the face when he was closing in on the start button ?

1. I was being dumb and forgot to unplug/turn off the desktop. I make mistakes too.

2. Also, he pressed the start button like a cobra striking, so I had like 0.4 seconds to stop him.


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Now I don't consider myself a 'techie' but I know a bit about computers (at least a bit more than that avg person, I want to think, but not as much as some people) but my mom used to (not as much lately) call me to come to her then I would come and turns out she just needed to copy and paste some stuff. She didn't know how to copy and paste

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On 5/27/2019 at 12:44 AM, Pi31415 said:

Half these stories are made up now

I've worked retail and a call center for years, believe me when I say I haven't seen a story that I thought was impossible. Common sense isn't all that common. People also "assume" a lot of things and don't "knowledge proof" themselves.


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43 minutes ago, wkdpaul said:

I've worked retail and a call center for years, believe me when I say I haven't seen a story that I thought was impossible. Common sense isn't all that common. People also "assume" a lot of things and don't "knowledge proof" themselves.

A lot of people don't look at guides or other resources before doing things. I think that PCs were meant to be built with at least some research because otherwise you end up with single-channel DIMMs, an overpriced CPU, or just the shittiest case ventilation ever. Or you just brick your PC if you're not careful.


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1 minute ago, Schnoz said:

A lot of people don't look at guides or other resources before doing things. I think that PCs were meant to be built with at least some research because otherwise you end up with single-channel DIMMs, an overpriced CPU, or just the shittiest case ventilation ever. Or you just brick your PC if you're not careful.

Technically, you need a minimum of knowledge when doing pretty much anything. Making mistakes is also perfectly fine, the issue is when someone can't admit a faults and/or learn from it. I feel that's most of the stories in here, the other parts are complete ignorance and/or a lack of learning from previous experience (from my call center days, the "regulars" that kept calling were the later : unable to learn, you could show them or explain a concept a 100 times, but a good night sleep would erase all that and they would call you back about the same issue that they can/should resolve themselves).


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2 minutes ago, wkdpaul said:

Technically, you need a minimum of knowledge when doing pretty much anything. Making mistakes is also perfectly fine, the issue is when someone can't admit a faults and/or learn from it. I feel that's most of the stories in here, the other parts are complete ignorance and/or a lack of learning from previous experience (from my call center days, the "regulars" that kept calling were the later : unable to learn, you could show them or explain a concept a 100 times, but a good night sleep would erase all that and they would call you back about the same issue that they can/should resolve themselves).

Yeah. My dad once forgot to plug in the 6-pin power connector on his Quadro and spent 3.5 hours trying to figure out what was going on. Guess what? I made the same mistake with my 1060. I believe that self-improvement is the most important thing in life. Improving saves time and money, and it improves your image to others.

 

like finally, some wholesome content xD


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So we exhibited our projects work today and the project of this Bitch was to shoot video tutorials for gymnastic exercises and what's a good idea to show them off ? Excactly, she brought her fucking iMac to school because she needed a "Big Display" Have you ever heard of a Projector before ??? We literally have massive, clean White Walls in our hallways and she could've easily asked our IT guy to lend out a Projector !IMG_20190528_111040.thumb.jpg.ea68d65abd46fef553109ae08dc39fd3.jpg

Oh and btw, yes those chairs do indeed hurt to sit on for a long period of time.

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1 minute ago, Pascal... said:

So we exhibited our projects work today and the project of this Bitch was to shoot video tutorials for gymnastic exercises and what's a good idea to show them off ? Excactly, she brought her fucking iMac to school because she needed a "Big Display" Have you ever heard of a Projector before ??? We literally have massive, clean White Walls in our hallways and she could've easily asked our IT guy to lend out a Projector !IMG_20190528_111040.thumb.jpg.ea68d65abd46fef553109ae08dc39fd3.jpg

Oh and btw, yes those chairs do indeed hurt to sit on for a long period of time.

lol you mad that she got a imac bro ?


 
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11 minutes ago, Pascal... said:

So we exhibited our projects work today and the project of this Bitch was to shoot video tutorials for gymnastic exercises and what's a good idea to show them off ? Excactly, she brought her fucking iMac to school because she needed a "Big Display" Have you ever heard of a Projector before ??? We literally have massive, clean White Walls in our hallways and she could've easily asked our IT guy to lend out a Projector !

Oh and btw, yes those chairs do indeed hurt to sit on for a long period of time.

You're lucky it was an iMac and not a full desktop.


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17 hours ago, Gegger said:

debian is linux

I use linux

I couldn't hack a computer if the instruction manual for debian hit me in the face.


into trains? here's the model railroad thread!

The way to get the specs for my PC. go to the store. Buy some potatos. boil them and mash the. and stuff that in a focus g with a ssd.

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1 hour ago, will1432 said:

debian is linux

I use linux

I couldn't hack a computer if the instruction manual for debian hit me in the face.

yeah cuz your eyes would be smashed


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15 minutes ago, Schnoz said:

yeah cuz your eyes would be smashed

couldn't hack if I read the entire thing


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The way to get the specs for my PC. go to the store. Buy some potatos. boil them and mash the. and stuff that in a focus g with a ssd.

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7 hours ago, Mr. horse said:

If your son has requested a new "processor" from a company called "AMD", this is genuine cause for alarm. AMD is a third-world based company who make inferior, "knock-off" copies of American processor chips. They use child labor extensively in their third world sweatshops, and they deliberately disable the security features that American processor makers, such as Intel, use to prevent hacking. AMD chips are never sold in stores, and you will most likely be told that you have to order them from internet sites. Do not buy this chip! This is one request that you must refuse your son, if you are to have any hope of raising him well.

read this carefully


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The way to get the specs for my PC. go to the store. Buy some potatos. boil them and mash the. and stuff that in a focus g with a ssd.

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7 hours ago, Mr. horse said:

8. Is your son obsessed with "Lunix"?

BSD, Lunix, Debian and Mandrake are all versions of an illegal hacker operation system, invented by a Soviet computer hacker named Linyos Torovoltos, before the Russians lost the Cold War. It is based on a program called " xenix", which was written by Microsoft for the US government. These programs are used by hackers to break into other people's computer systems to steal credit card numbers. They may also be used to break into people's stereos to steal their music, using the "mp3" program. Torovoltos is a notorious hacker, responsible for writing many hacker programs, such as "telnet", which is used by hackers to connect to machines on the internet without using a telephone.

Your son may try to install " lunix" on your hard drive. If he is careful, you may not notice its presence, however, lunix is a capricious beast, and if handled incorrectly, your son may damage your computer, and even break it completely by deleting Windows, at which point you will have to have your computer repaired by a professional.

If you see the word "LILO" during your windows startup (just after you turn the machine on), your son has installed lunix. In order to get rid of it, you will have to send your computer back to the manufacturer, and have them fit a new hard drive. Lunix is extremely dangerous software, and cannot be removed without destroying part of your hard disk surface.

this is lunix this is bsd and this is mandrake


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Most of these are from a FreeGeek ad, I'm guessing the person that wrote these isn't very knowledgeable:


"The Intel Core i7-3770 Quad-Core 3.4 GHz processor gives demanding applications power when they need it. While the Intel chip processes data, the clock speed reaches 3.4 GHz as electricity travels to four individual processors in the CPU."

 

"Each core of the four in this Intel chip help your system run efficiently without overheating."

 

"When extra speed is needed, the Intel Core chip is suitable for overclocking with a max turbo frequency of 3.90 GHz." IT'S A NON-K SYSTEM!!!!!

 

"When the Intel Core 3.4 GHz chip works hard, thermal design power helps to ensure that the case only reaches 67.4 C, and the junction components rise to 105 C." wat

 

"If this Ivy Bridge Intel Core 3.4 GHz chip is used in a business environment, its protection technologies will keep everything secured." excuse me? meltdown, spectre

 

"Socket Type    LGA 1155/Socket H2" then later it says "Compatible Slots    1X Processor-LGA 775/Socket T Socket"

 

also they are selling a c2d for 250 usd


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