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UPDATE: Grand Theft Auto 5 PC Trailer just dropped & new Heists Trailer shot on PC.

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OT: I hope Cut Scenes are going to be limited to lower FPS... Or at least having it possible in Settings...

There were two so I guess a mod merged them :)


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What are you talking about?

 

I was HAPPY about the delay..:We need to not rush stuff. When will we learn? You want something good, and have to wait for an extra six months or do you want something shitty from that start?

 

Its people like you who are ruining games with the freakouts everytime something gets delayed....

 

Companies should just refuse to give out any deadlines out of fear that the impatient fans will use the opportunity to lose their shit because they have to wait a bit more.

Wtf? You clearly didn't understand what I said, at all. But in fact the opposite, making me look bad. Like seriously?!

I was saying that PC version should've been developed as main focus, like it was, and like it needs to be! Then it would come on day 1 along side with consoles with normal non-bugged good graphical looking game! 

But they wanted to do consoles first and don't give a F about PC at all. Later on they decided to make PC port.

 

And you're happy that you waited 1.5y for something that should've been done on day one? OK.

 

It's actually cause of people like you who are all like 'whatever I'll just buy it when it comes'. And you're simply ok with it being full price tag, how can that make you happy about it.

That's why everyone will continue to do shit like this in gaming industry and stale games on PC, since they know there are people like you who will insta pre order or buy, after long delay anyway.


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Wtf? You clearly didn't understand what I said, at all. But in fact the opposite, making me look bad. Like seriously?!

I was saying that PC version should've been developed as main focus, like it was, and like it needs to be! Then it would come on day 1 along side with consoles with normal non-bugged good graphical looking game! 

But they wanted to do consoles first and don't give a F about PC at all. Later on they decided to make PC port.

 

And you're happy that you waited 1.5y for something that should've been done on day one? OK.

 

It's actually cause of people like you who are all like 'whatever I'll just buy it when it comes'. And you're simply ok with it being full price tag, how can that make you happy about it.

That's why everyone will continue to do shit like this in gaming industry and stale games on PC, since they know there are people like you who will insta pre order or buy, after long delay anyway.

 

Well, its easy to misunderstand what you mean when you go in several directions at once.

 

So, you are arguing that they should make it for PC as a focus and port it to consoles.....And then you say that it should not be full price because you have to wait.....

 

So you either want it to be only developed for PC, but you also want a refund because its late?

 

Well, sure, it would be lovely if it was made for PC, but that was never ever going to happen, and has not been the case since what....GTA 2? So your fury at that has nothing what so ever to do with GTA 5...Sure it would be great, but that isn't even realistic.

 

Instead, rockstar develops it for consoles, ports it, and adds TOOOOOOONS of stuff. There goes a LOT of work into improving it for PC...look at how big the mods for GTA 4 are.

 

If you had your way, GTA 5 would have been released as a shit port, with no extra features.

If they didn't give a fuck about PC, they would not make an improved version.

 

Release dates are not made in stone.....The product doesn't lose value because it gets delayed.

Rockstar just made the mistake of actually telling you anything.

 

Maybe they should do like beyonce with that album..just surprise release it.

 

 

oh, and its not 1.5 years....its six months since the PS4 release....take it easy.


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So, you are arguing that they should make it for PC as a focus and port it to consoles.....And then you say that it should not be full price because you have to wait.....

Yes, that's how it should be. It's not like they can't do it like that. They just want to milk consoles as much as they can before start selling on PC. And I would pay full price with no problem if it would've been released at day one. Not after months and months of later on launch for PC, I'll just wait for a sale on it, like I did for some other games. So not sure why you think I'm pissed or inpatient, it's just matter of principle how games should be delivered.

I can wait even after PC launch for sale, I think that counts for 'waiting patiently' with no worries.

Cause both of us would get it way later than consoles, you will get it for full price and I will get it somewhat after you for like couple of times less. That will make me happy.

 

So you either want it to be only developed for PC, but you also want a refund because its late?

What, no. I want it to be developed for PC than degrade it and make it for console. It's better way of doing. That's how it should be.

And what refund, I didn't ordered, nor would I ever for a game that is  coming on PC later on. On top of that many console ports lately are utter shit since they don't eve port it optimized and yet also games look so degraded like 10 years ago.

 

Well, sure, it would be lovely if it was made for PC, but that was never ever going to happen, and has not been the case since what....GTA 2? So your fury at that has nothing what so ever to do with GTA 5...Sure it would be great, but that isn't even realistic.

GTA3, Vice City, San Andreas. They got released fine. GTA4 was bad port. And it is realistic, you're just to aloof about it.

 

Instead, rockstar develops it for consoles, ports it, and adds TOOOOOOONS of stuff. There goes a LOT of work into improving it for PC...look at how big the mods for GTA 4 are.

Lol, they should make it for PC then simply downgrade for console, WAAAAAAAy more effortless than making some improvements later on for PC. Other way around makes no sense. It's just lazy way of doing it. 

GTA4 mods are big cause of those who made it since game didn't really look that amazing and was buggy. Props for those who made mods not RS lol.

 

If you had your way, GTA 5 would have been released as a shit port, with no extra features.

If they didn't give a fuck about PC, they would not make an improved version.

You clearly don't understand how games are getting or should be developed and what goes on with it.

I NEVER said that there would be shit port if it was released on day one lol, wtf are you saying.

And they didn't give a fuck about PC after initial launch. They said it them selves that they're not sure that there will be PC version. Shows no interested, but now console sales are not rising anymore so they turned to PC side.

And that would not be "my way" of releasing games. That's how games should be released for games in the first place and people agree on that!

 

Release dates are not made in stone.....The product doesn't lose value because it gets delayed.

Rockstar just made the mistake of actually telling you anything.

Ofc game doesn't lose value cause of delay, I never said that. Don't want RS to go with route like other companies lately.

Look at games like Watch Dogs or AC: Unity on PC. They look shit compared what they showed before release. AC: Unity looks worse on PC than Crysis 1 which was released 7 years before it, lol. Like WTF?! And you'd pay for that, while they also claimed and demoed differently?!

They will continue to do so like this cause people don't care, and they will get money for less effort.


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The only thing im interested is how many people are going to pirate it?

Also the funny thing is they sell the game full $ after 1 year and half? which other game ever maintains a price for so long lol.

Even if i were filthy rich i wouldnt support rockstar at this point anymore.

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The argument that you're not willing to pay a premium price for a game that's not brand new negates the amount of extra development and cost that goes into developing the pc version. It's also this attitude that will prevent an HD remake of RDR ever coming to PC. Why would they when so many people act entitled to getting discounts over the console versions because they didn't get it first? I don't understand that argument. It's still a new game on the pc platform. If you buy it day one, expect to pay full price like every other game. If you want it cheaper, wait for a steam sale. I don't see the argument here at all.


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Yes, that's how it should be. It's not like they can't do it like that. They just want to milk consoles as much as they can before start selling on PC. And I would pay full price with no problem if it would've been released at day one. Not after months and months of later on launch for PC, I'll just wait for a sale on it, like I did for some other games. So not sure why you think I'm pissed or inpatient, it's just matter of principle how games should be delivered.

I can wait even after PC launch for sale, I think that counts for 'waiting patiently' with no worries.

Cause both of us would get it way later than consoles, you will get it for full price and I will get it somewhat after you for like couple of times less. That will make me happy.

 

What, no. I want it to be developed for PC than degrade it and make it for console. It's better way of doing. That's how it should be.

And what refund, I didn't ordered, nor would I ever for a game that is  coming on PC later on. On top of that many console ports lately are utter shit since they don't eve port it optimized and yet also games look so degraded like 10 years ago.

 

GTA3, Vice City, San Andreas. They got released fine. GTA4 was bad port. And it is realistic, you're just to aloof about it.

 

Lol, they should make it for PC then simply downgrade for console, WAAAAAAAy more effortless than making some improvements later on for PC. Other way around makes no sense. It's just lazy way of doing it. 

GTA4 mods are big cause of those who made it since game didn't really look that amazing and was buggy. Props for those who made mods not RS lol.

 

You clearly don't understand how games are getting or should be developed and what goes on with it.

I NEVER said that there would be shit port if it was released on day one lol, wtf are you saying.

And they didn't give a fuck about PC after initial launch. They said it them selves that they're not sure that there will be PC version. Shows no interested, but now console sales are not rising anymore so they turned to PC side.

And that would not be "my way" of releasing games. That's how games should be released for games in the first place and people agree on that!

 

Ofc game doesn't lose value cause of delay, I never said that. Don't want RS to go with route like other companies lately.

Look at games like Watch Dogs or AC: Unity on PC. They look shit compared what they showed before release. AC: Unity looks worse on PC than Crysis 1 which was released 7 years before it, lol. Like WTF?! And you'd pay for that, while they also claimed and demoed differently?!

They will continue to do so like this cause people don't care, and they will get money for less effort.

 

I have to leave work now, so can't give you the reply you deserve....

 

But listen...I would LOVE for what you say to be the case. Im old enough to remember when that was the case, but that has to do with the entire gaming industry...

You were yelling at rockstar, and complaining about the delay.

 

Now suddenly, its about the entire industry, and how they should priorities us ahead of the consoles....I would LOVE for that to happen, but to expect Rockstar to ignore

You say that they should downgrade it, and that it would be much easier..Yeah, im pretty fucking sure its not as simple as that. You say that I don't understand why downgrading is easier than porting it...

If you think you have enough knowledge to make a statement like "Lol, they should make it for PC then simply downgrade for console, WAAAAAAAy more effortless than making some improvements later on for PC"

then you don't grasp how many different ways developers do things...

 

 

We are not in a weird console world anymore where its difficult to compare hardware...Now we are basically looking at consoles that we can do a pretty good job of comparing to our hardware.

 

I know they want to "milk" the console industry, but if it was that much easier and effortless, then they would do it...Their shareholders would demand it!

 

You mention AC Unity....That shit runs like hell on every single platform it was released for...BECAUSE IT WAS RUSHED!

 

Because people would lose their shit at ubisoft if they delayed it...and because ubisoft unlike rockstar are pussies who didn't want to take the heat. Instead they released a game that might very well have ruined an entire franchise.

 

 

Your hopes for the gaming industry are great..I hope it gets that way some that. But blaming rockstar for it? BS!


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wow RS are a bit full of themselves.

 

Well, all I can say is I'm not that impressed. sure the textures don't look terrible, but I would expect that. The topologies however looks about Skyrim level... people look just weird.

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As hyped as i am i cant say i was super happy with the trailer, yeah it looked pretty but it wasn't actual game play, not only that it was very short in addition to having 30 seconds of a 1:20 clip wasted on a fucking blank screen lol

 

They said a long time ago that they would show of the video capture/editor functionality in the PC trailer i guess that's what i was hoping for :( oh well not long to wait now!!

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Now I have to buy this. 


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Those evil bastards.....

 

Edit: And yet you can get to LTT? lol

It's like that at my school too


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I have to leave work now, so can't give you the reply you deserve....

 

But listen...I would LOVE for what you say to be the case. Im old enough to remember when that was the case, but that has to do with the entire gaming industry...

You were yelling at rockstar, and complaining about the delay.

 

Now suddenly, its about the entire industry, and how they should priorities us ahead of the consoles....I would LOVE for that to happen, but to expect Rockstar to ignore

You say that they should downgrade it, and that it would be much easier..Yeah, im pretty fucking sure its not as simple as that. You say that I don't understand why downgrading is easier than porting it...

If you think you have enough knowledge to make a statement like "Lol, they should make it for PC then simply downgrade for console, WAAAAAAAy more effortless than making some improvements later on for PC"

then you don't grasp how many different ways developers do things...

 

 

We are not in a weird console world anymore where its difficult to compare hardware...Now we are basically looking at consoles that we can do a pretty good job of comparing to our hardware.

 

I know they want to "milk" the console industry, but if it was that much easier and effortless, then they would do it...Their shareholders would demand it!

 

You mention AC Unity....That shit runs like hell on every single platform it was released for...BECAUSE IT WAS RUSHED!

 

Because people would lose their shit at ubisoft if they delayed it...and because ubisoft unlike rockstar are pussies who didn't want to take the heat. Instead they released a game that might very well have ruined an entire franchise.

 

 

Your hopes for the gaming industry are great..I hope it gets that way some that. But blaming rockstar for it? BS!

I'm not actually flaming on them. I'm more like "C'mon RockStar why the fuck".

 

And I do know that latest consoles are more hardware close like today's PCs since they use x86-64 architecture APU with unified memory which should be easier and faster to make a game across all platforms. It's just some companies don't focus on PC side enough anymore while they develop a game for all platforms, it's sad.

 

And saying that AC:U was rushed, what about other games. Most of latest EA and Ubisoft games are full of big problems, and atop of that, they look worse than a demo. And those demos they show, they showed it with a freakin controller, how sad. And some demos were running on PC but shown as console.

There's no excuse for any, it's a lazy work, cause they know they can get away with it.

I'm pretty sure that wont last, it mustn't, cause those companies will bury them selves.

 

I do know consoles are not exactly lower end PC, but these new ones are close in terms of architecture.

And there's been talk that Ubisoft and others degraded games on purpose or being bribed to do so so that new consoles don't look shit since PC version would look noticeably better.


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Anyone want to be so kind, and lend me a pc that could run this game? I promise to return it. 
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I want games that run on acceptable quality with playable framerates even if i dont have a 5000$ PC

I aint gonna buy a 295x2 for this game, they better have optimised the shit outta it

I think it will be good in terms of optimization. They have taken their time and tellingly their recommended specs are reasonable. So I think it will scale fairly well... I certainly don't expect an Ubisoft-like release. Also this is not an Nvidia sponsored game so we don't have gameworks messing things up...

Although I understand why people have doubts- I think because Ubisoft released so many stuttering games in 2014 the pc market has got their hands burned and now many of us are vary of new AAA games.

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How high is the bitrate??

I couldn't even watch it on the lowest quality setting without waiting for it to buffer.

and on youtube I can watch 720p or 480p with no issues (sometimes 720p buffers a bit, but no where near the amount on the 360p60fps trailer)

 

damn Australian Internet. Give me the NBN already!


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Just watch them delay the game another 2 weeks a day before its supposed to come out hahahaha, honestly thought this looked really solid polished and overall amazing! I cant wait to crank it up all the way with my SLI 980s!


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How high is the bitrate??

I couldn't even watch it on the lowest quality setting without waiting for it to buffer.

and on youtube I can watch 720p or 480p with no issues (sometimes 720p buffers a bit, but no where near the amount on the 360p60fps trailer)

 

damn Australian Internet. Give me the NBN already!

 

Here is the Rockstar link (1080p60):

 

http://videos.rockstargames.com/v2/V-pc60fps-en_us-1080p60.mp4

 

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There's a second trailer around online heists just been leaked by some dodgy Russian website so expect to see it officially next week some time.

 

Won't link to it here as the site really does look shady as fooooook.

 

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So it appears the leak has come from R* Russia and is also on YouTube so here it is

 

 


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Here is the Rockstar link (1080p60):

 

http://videos.rockstargames.com/v2/V-pc60fps-en_us-1080p60.mp4

 

You can right-click the video to save it.

Thanks!!! now I have to wait 10-15mins for it to download...

The download speeds from rockstar.com are quite slow for some reason... or maybe that is my internet idk. downloads on steam seem a bit faster


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The amount of emphasis that GTA V can actualy reach 60 fps.. Are you hinting something Rockstar? *Cough* Consoles cant hit 60 *Cough*

 

"The human eye can only see 24 fps"

 

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