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Posted · Original PosterOP

In total i am trying to keep this build at around $900 (monitor included)

 

I have decided on the AMD FX 8320 Black Edition, for the CPU  I am able to get in from amazon for $150 because of Prime

I have also decided on 2TB WD BGreen for storage. $80 on amazon

RAM I am undecided (8gb at least plz)

GPU undecided (know little about)

Mobo (know NOTHING AT ALL)

 

Also need cpu fans and a case

Don't need an OS

SSD optional

 

 

Well for games I would like to be able to play pretty much all valve games on med-high settings.  I would like to be able to also play bioshock, Sniper Elite FEAR, fallout, skyrim on at least medium all at 1080p.  Other games would include (they are not too demanding, America's Army, CS:Go, Combat Arms)

 

Thank you for the help.

 

ps(plz no intel fanboys telling me amd sucks and go with intel instead)

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Ram, find the best price per gb ddr3. Gpu depending on budget id say a r7 270x, r9 if you can afford it and mobo find a decent asus board in your price range that is compatible.

Cpu fans find whatevers a good price and high rpm (if you dont care about sound). Case is down to preference (read some reviews)

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SO you want to keep the 8320? If I recommend a G3258 you wouldn't like it? Cause the G3258 beats the 4790k (stock speeds) at MOST games with a good amount of overclock


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ps(plz no intel fanboys telling me amd sucks and go with intel instead)

I feel like this is an Attempt at starting a Flame War...


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In total i am trying to keep this build at around $900 (monitor included)

 

I have decided on the AMD FX 8320 Black Edition, for the CPU  I am able to get in from amazon for $150 because of Prime

I have also decided on 2TB WD BGreen for storage. $80 on amazon

RAM I am undecided (8gb at least plz)

GPU undecided (know little about)

Mobo (know NOTHING AT ALL)

 

Also need cpu fans and a case

 

Well for games I would like to be able to play pretty much all valve games on med-high settings.  I would like to be able to also play bioshock, Sniper Elite FEAR, fallout, skyrim on at least medium all at 1080p.  Other games would include (they are not too demanding, America's Army, CS:Go, Combat Arms)

 

Thank you for the help.

 

ps(plz no intel fanboys telling me amd sucks and go with intel instead)

 

 
CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  ($137.95 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Enermax ETS-T40-TB 86.7 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI 970 GAMING ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($99.98 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270X 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($167.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ Micro Center) 
Monitor: Asus VN248H-P 23.8" Monitor  ($167.58 @ Newegg) 
Total: $844.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I know you really don't want to hear it but hopefully seeing as I've been a long time fan of AMD and am currently running an AMD octocore my voice will carry a little more weight.
The extra $25 you spend to get even a locked i5 will make such a big difference that it will be worth it, I'm running an 8120 because at the time I thought it would be a good idea, I thoroughly regret that decision.

Assuming that you also need the OS this is the build I would recommend.

 
CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($173.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($49.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Pareema 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($54.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($49.98 @ NCIX US) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($87.95 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Acer H226HQLbid 60Hz 21.5" Monitor  ($141.47 @ Amazon) 
Total: $889.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-29 20:05 EDT-0400

 

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Your build is missing RAM


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Posted · Original PosterOP

I feel like this is an Attempt at starting a Flame War...

na it was a serious request because anytime I ask about AMD the internet goes crazy with "bla bla bla intel rules, amd sucks bla bla bla" If you can give me valid reasons then yah I willconsider

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I know you really don't want to hear it but hopefully seeing as I've been a long time fan of AMD and am currently running an AMD octocore my voice will carry a little more weight.

The extra $25 you spend to get even a locked i5 will make such a big difference that it will be worth it, I'm running an 8120 because at the time I thought it would be a good idea, I thoroughly regret that decision.

Assuming that you also need the OS this is the build I would recommend.

 
CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($173.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($49.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Pareema 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($54.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($49.98 @ NCIX US) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($87.95 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Acer H226HQLbid 60Hz 21.5" Monitor  ($141.47 @ Amazon) 
Total: $889.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-29 20:05 EDT-0400

 
 

Your build is missing RAM

 

 

 

Helpful and it is cheaper to me cause I have at least some unused windows 7 disks and keys, don't really need an SSD(should of included that in the OP)

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na it was a serious request because anytime I ask about AMD the internet goes crazy with "bla bla bla intel rules, amd sucks bla bla bla" If you can give me valid reasons then yah I willconsider

 

The FX CPU architecture is old, and slow.  The 8-core CPU does not have 8 independent cores.  The cores are setup in pairs called modules.  These modules share resources.  The IPC (instructions per clock) has not really been improved for over 5 years.

 

This is why Intel CPU are so highly recommended,  Intel has been improving their architecture, and consequently their CPU IPC, steadily for all that time.  Currently, Intel CPUs can deal with 40%-50% more instructions than the AMD CPUs.

 

$900 USD is a lot of money to settle for a proven inferior component when there is a much better option.

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thank you for that

No problem! 

I totally agree with you, people never give a valid point why Intel is better.

Also that website has MANY more benchmarks of everything, might wanna check it out!


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$914

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($178.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($70.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($71.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB PCS+ Video Card  ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($32.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: LG 22MP55HQ-P 60Hz 22.0" Monitor  ($120.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $870.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-29 20:29 EDT-0400

 

..and you don't need to overclock

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In total i am trying to keep this build at around $900 (monitor included)

 

I have decided on the AMD FX 8320 Black Edition, for the CPU  I am able to get in from amazon for $150 because of Prime

I have also decided on 2TB WD BGreen for storage. $80 on amazon

RAM I am undecided (8gb at least plz)

GPU undecided (know little about)

Mobo (know NOTHING AT ALL)

 

Also need cpu fans and a case

Don't need an OS

SSD optional

 

 

Well for games I would like to be able to play pretty much all valve games on med-high settings.  I would like to be able to also play bioshock, Sniper Elite FEAR, fallout, skyrim on at least medium all at 1080p.  Other games would include (they are not too demanding, America's Army, CS:Go, Combat Arms)

 

Thank you for the help.

 

ps(plz no intel fanboys telling me amd sucks and go with intel instead)

 

Why would you want an FX 8320 for $150 when you can get an i5-4440 for $175?

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na it was a serious request because anytime I ask about AMD the internet goes crazy with "bla bla bla intel rules, amd sucks bla bla bla" If you can give me valid reasons then yah I willconsider

Maybe because it performs better in 98% of Applications? 

http://www.hardwarepal.com/best-cpu-gaming-9-processors-8-games-tested/

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-fx-8370e-cpu,3929-7.html

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8427/amd-fx-8370e-cpu-review-vishera-95w/3

(keep in mind bottom 2 are using the better than 8320 CPU)

This would be the best build for that Budget.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DHk7Hx


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Laptop: Dell XPS 15 4K 9750H GTX 1650 16GB Ram 256GB SSD

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na it was a serious request because anytime I ask about AMD the internet goes crazy with "bla bla bla intel rules, amd sucks bla bla bla" If you can give me valid reasons then yah I willconsider

 

Because of roughly 5% IPC improvements each generation, a $175 i5-4440 performs at the same level as the i5-2500k at stock shown here:

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Why does it seem enticing?

 

price, what people claim it is able to handle, and all the positive reviews,

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price, what people claim it is able to handle, and all the positive reviews,

 

Yeah, the price has dropped a decent amount since launch.  It is right in between the R9280 and the R9 280X.

 

Personally I don't find enticing the word I would use.  As in my own purchase of an R9 280, it was what my budget allowed.  I would rather have a GTX 970 :lol:

 

R9 280 keeps up with the GTX 960 (although the 960 seems to edge it out most of the time), and you get 1 GB more VRAM (384-bit memory bus).  If you have enough for a 280X, definitely go with that over the 960.

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I saw opposite reviews about the 960 being a waste. Some tech reviews on youtube saying it added nothing to the market. It's not better than the 760ti by enough to suggest it's price tag and the 770 beats it as well as the 280X. AND...  You can get a used GTX 770 4 Gb for the same price as this new. So...what card is better? That's the question.

 

I'm seeing mixed reviews though head to head. If the card is same price... 770 would do. If 960 is cheaper with 4 Gb at any time...there ya go.

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any opinions on the NVidia 960, after reading some reviews it seems pretty enticing. 

I would go with an EVGA GTX 960 SSC 4GB 

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My PC Specs: CPU: Core i5 4590 @ stock speeds, GPU: RX 480 8GB, RAM: 16GB DDR3 @1600mhz

 

Case: Zalman ZM-T4,Motherboard: GigaByte GA-H81M-S2H LGA 1150, HDD/SSD: 2TB Seagate Expansion drive, 1TB Samsung Portable HDD, 160gb Intel SSD, PSU: 550w corsair cxm

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I saw opposite reviews about the 960 being a waste. Some tech reviews on youtube saying it added nothing to the market. It's not better than the 760ti by enough to suggest it's price tag and the 770 beats it as well as the 280X. AND...  You can get a used GTX 770 4 Gb for the same price as this new. So...what card is better? That's the question.

 

I'm seeing mixed reviews though head to head. If the card is same price... 770 would do. If 960 is cheaper with 4 Gb at any time...there ya go.

A GTX 960 is more thsn enough for what he wants


My PC Specs: CPU: Core i5 4590 @ stock speeds, GPU: RX 480 8GB, RAM: 16GB DDR3 @1600mhz

 

Case: Zalman ZM-T4,Motherboard: GigaByte GA-H81M-S2H LGA 1150, HDD/SSD: 2TB Seagate Expansion drive, 1TB Samsung Portable HDD, 160gb Intel SSD, PSU: 550w corsair cxm

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