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Hi guys, I'm looking to build a new gaming PC, but I'm not sure if i should use something like a ROG x79 rampage or a ROG z87 Formula or should i wait for the x99 your thoughts please. since i don't build pc's every year i don't mind spending a little extra $$, I like the ROG z87 sound sonar but im not too sure on the chipset. 

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What will you be doing with this rig?

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Moslty gaming and slight video editing. But i see alienware with the x79 chipset i so i have doubts on z87 

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I would have gone with the x79, mostly because off the heat issues with the z87 that i've heard a lot about (maybe fixed?)

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If you're doing mostly gaming, Z87 may be the better choice.

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Hello there! For only gaming the Z87 platform should be good enough. If you are going to be doing a lot of video editing in the future, the 2011/x79 platform would be a better choice due to the 6 core CPUs available for it.

I would not wait for the x99 platform, it won't be out for a while, a couple years at least. 

 

If you go for the Z87 platform, you can get the 4770K which has hyper threading enabled, which can help with the video editing you do. If you need more power in the future, Intel will release more CPUs for the 1150 socket later on that you can get.

 

If you are going to be doing more video editing in the future, you can get the i7-3930K 6 core CPU, or you can wait a couple months and get the Ivy-E CPUs which will be compatible with x79. X99 is still a long way away for now, I wouldn't wait for it.

 

Good luck, and let me know if you have any more questions!

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If you are mostly doing gaming than Z87 will perform well and save a lot of money.

 

 

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If you are mostly doing gaming than Z87 will perform well and save a lot of money.

But x79 will preform better?

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But x79 will preform better?

Not necessarily

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But x79 will preform better?

 

Right now pretty much no games can use all the cores available on the Intel 6 core CPUs, so in gaming you will get pretty much no boost, performance in games can actually fall a little due to lower clock speeds of the 6 core CPUs.

Some games might be able to use all six cores of the CPU in the future, so going with the x79 chipset and a 3930K is a good way to "future proof" your computer. 

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But x79 will preform better?

Similar to what fishymamba is saying is most games now do not use all cores.  Also right now for single threaded Haswell might do better in than an x79 chip. It is also more expensive by a very large margin to go with x79. However for some programs more cores can be used witch is an advantage to x79. So it depends if the other programs you use support multiple threads.

 

 

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Similar to what fishymamba is saying is most games now do not use all cores.  Also right now for single threaded Haswell might do better in than an x79 chip. It is also more expensive by a very large margin to go with x79. However for some programs more cores can be used witch is an advantage to x79. So it depends if the other programs you use support multiple threads.

It's cheaper to go x79 in the UK which is why I'm going for it xD

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It's cheaper to go x79 in the UK which is why I'm going for it xD

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if x79 is cheaper definitely go for it! otherwise I would say, save your pennies and go z87. However you wont notice any performance gain in games with the x79 at all however you will with video editing.:)

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It's cheaper to go x79 in the UK which is why I'm going for it xD

 

Except it isn't unless you insist upon only purchasing a top of the line z87 board but will settle for a ud3 in x79.

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It's cheaper to go x79 in the UK which is why I'm going for it xD

That's backwards and awesome at the same time XD 

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Except it isn't unless you insist upon only purchasing a top of the line z87 board but will settle for a ud3 in x79.

The thing is that a ud3 is a high end z87 board but a low end x79 board making them equal :p

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The thing is that a ud3 is a high end z87 board but a low end x79 board making them equal :P

That is by far the most flawed logic, as far as feature set goes an equivalent z87 setup that would work could be had for less...
 
 
 
CPU:  Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£263.20 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX  LGA1150 Motherboard  (£148.44 @ Ebuyer) 
Total: £411.64
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-08 16:07 BST+0100)
 
 
CPU:  Intel Core i7-3820 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£227.99 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-X79-UD3 ATX  LGA2011 Motherboard  (£150.96 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £378.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-08 16:09 BST+0100)
 
 
CPU:  Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£263.20 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-Z87-D3HP ATX  LGA1150 Motherboard  (£107.84 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Total: £371.04
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-08 16:14 BST+0100)

 

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i use my vote at x79 since the new CPU's will be compatable with x79 its a great choice and will perform better than z87 (in most of the senerios)

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That is by far the most flawed logic, as far as feature set goes an equivalent z87 setup that would work could be had for less...
 
 
 
CPU:  Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£263.20 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX  LGA1150 Motherboard  (£148.44 @ Ebuyer) 
Total: £411.64
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-08 16:07 BST+0100)
 

 
CPU:  Intel Core i7-3820 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£227.99 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-X79-UD3 ATX  LGA2011 Motherboard  (£150.96 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £378.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-08 16:09 BST+0100)
 

 
CPU:  Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£263.20 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-Z87-D3HP ATX  LGA1150 Motherboard  (£107.84 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Total: £371.04
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-08 16:14 BST+0100)

 

 

The D3 board is irrelevant :p I'm talking about the same board+ different cpus.

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The D3 board is irrelevant :P I'm talking about the same board+ different cpus.

What features are on the ud3 that the d3hp doesn't have? Its hardly irrelevant if you have no need for the other features of the board.

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What features are on the ud3 that the d3hp doesn't have? Its hardly irrelevant if you have no need for the other features of the board.

SLI support. Number of SATA ports. Ram frequency support. Now shhh.

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It's cheaper to go x79 in the UK which is why I'm going for it xD

It's cheaper there? That is awesome. Cannot say the same in the U.S.

 

 

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I would go x79 right now but if the second generation of Haswell 1150 socket CPUs are better than the present set i would go z87 it is feature rich for the price.

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I'm struggling to choose between x79 and z87 too I am still using a c2d notebook, and I want to upgrade to a desktop. The new machine would be use for gaming, mild vm (to learn linux, and to test my softwares) and software development.

 

And If I bought the x79 board with 3930k now, when I upgrade it with a ivy bridge-e cpu later, do I need to reinstall windows again? Thx~

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