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I'm gonna sound like a noob, but I was just wondering: if you need 2 full-sized displayport connections to get 5K rez, how does that work for AMD cards since the r9 290X only has one? 

Are there any of the 'new' amd cards that have 2 full-sized DP ports? or am I missing something here?

 

 

Mini DisplayPort is functionally the same as DisplayPort. It's like USB/MicroUSB/USB-B etc. - they're all the same pins in different connectors. You can just use a simple adapter to get it to full size.

 

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Mini DisplayPort is functionally the same as DisplayPort. It's like USB/MicroUSB/USB-B etc. - they're all the same pins in different connectors. You can just use a simple adapter to get it to full size.

 

 

now find a 290(x) with a miniDP


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Nice and all but ...its still LCD.

 

IPS great picture/colour and viewing angles (for an LCD), but slow pixel response

VA Ok picture/colour (for an LCD), but usually has input lag (cuz they used in TV mostly), slow pixel response, viewing angles can be poor, same for backlight bleed.

TN faster pixel response and higher Hz, but crap picture/colour, poor viewing angles, and usually has backlight bleed.

 

Prior to LCD we had CRT and Plasma, they had/have great colour, great picture, great viewing angles, no input lag, no issues with pixel response, no backlight bleed, and for the time they had great resolutions, even by todays standard u can get some high res CRT's, and although Plasma's were/are 1080p there large size meant low PPI. The downside, they are both chunky and heavy in terms of physical size.

 

I honestly cant fathom how the VDU industry has got away with shoving LCD down our necks for so long. Roll on OLED. 21:9  5120x2160  60hz+  40"- 46"(remember the aspect ratio) G-sync/free-sync OLED .yes please.


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Very nice Review Linus, because I am going with 780 SLI eventually I don't think I can do 4k but I hope in the future I can get enough money to make 4k LAN PC (980 SLI)!


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When there is a necessity of having the scaling in windows to be set at 200%, the better solution would be setting the resolution to 2560x1440. It eliminates the weird behaviour of windows scaler and applications that scale their elements differently or independently of the OS (the whole Adobe suite for example). And at such pixel density I don't think there would be any negative effects of that.

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Dell are just being ******* ******** here.  Who the hell wants to run games at 5K at minimum settings?


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Dell are just being ******* ******** here. Who the hell wants to run games at 5K at minimum settings?

I want to play Assassins Creed 64 @60FPS

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Warning: pure opinion ahead.

 

Yea, it's going to be awhile before 5k, hell even 4k becomes main stream as scaling issues and horsepower required to power the panels.  While, yea the panel looks amazing I just don't see the practicality of it except for maybe content creation.  Which with heavy content creation you might as well use a mac.  I would much rather game at 5760x1080 vs 4k with all the extra screen real estate for a more immersive experience.  

 

Great review, but I think the panel is completely unnecessary at this point in time.  This is for people who have absurd amounts of money and nothing else to spend it on, as you need a large investment just to power the thing.  

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It would actually be pretty sweet to do three of these. If you were running a Hackintosh or MacPro, you could run theses in "Retina" (double sampled) mode with an effective desktop size of 2560x1440 per monitor (just like a 5K iMac). When in Windows, even though their scaling sucks balls compared to OS X, you could game at 3x 1440p (a perfectly reasonable Surround resolution) with perfect 2:1 pixel scaling.

 

Granted, Apple's drivers do not currently support tiled monitors with DP1.2 and DisplayID, so 5K is not currently available for external displays. I don't know about Hackintoshes using Nvidia's OS X Web Drivers on a GTX 980, or something of that nature.

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It would actually be pretty sweet to do three of these. If you were running a Hackintosh or MacPro, you could run theses in "Retina" (double sampled) mode with an effective desktop size of 2560x1440 per monitor (just like a 5K iMac). When in Windows, even though their scaling sucks balls compared to OS X, you could game at 3x 1440p (a perfectly reasonable Surround resolution) with perfect 2:1 pixel scaling.

 

Granted, Apple's drivers do not currently support tiled monitors with DP1.2 and DisplayID, so 5K is not currently available for external displays. I don't know about Hackintoshes using Nvidia's OS X Web Drivers on a GTX 980, or something of that nature.

1) OS X does support tiled displays

2) there just was an update for the Dell UP2715K to support 5K@60Hz

3) I run my P2715Q in "retina 1440p". works perfeclty fine for 27" and looks really sharp ;)


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at 27" 5K does not appeal to me, 40" is like the bare minimum for 1:1 scaling for 4K, we need to start upping the screen sizes for larger resolutions.

It does looks sexy though...


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:( would be cool IF I COULD AFFORD IT AND PC FAST ENOUGH PC FOR THAT SCREEN


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Lol, REK'T


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Nice and all but ...its still LCD.

 

IPS great picture/colour and viewing angles (for an LCD), but slow pixel response

VA Ok picture/colour (for an LCD), but usually has input lag (cuz they used in TV mostly), slow pixel response, viewing angles can be poor, same for backlight bleed.

TN faster pixel response and higher Hz, but crap picture/colour, poor viewing angles, and usually has backlight bleed.

 

Prior to LCD we had CRT and Plasma, they had/have great colour, great picture, great viewing angles, no input lag, no issues with pixel response, no backlight bleed, and for the time they had great resolutions, even by todays standard u can get some high res CRT's, and although Plasma's were/are 1080p there large size meant low PPI. The downside, they are both chunky and heavy in terms of physical size.

 

I honestly cant fathom how the VDU industry has got away with shoving LCD down our necks for so long. Roll on OLED. 21:9  5120x2160  60hz+  40"- 46"(remember the aspect ratio) G-sync/free-sync OLED .yes please.

 

 

LCD is "good enough" for most people and a lot more convenient than heavy CRT/Plasma.  (Or dealing with plasma burn in issues.)


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So 2 980s couldn't do it... How about 4? Or Titan Xs, whenever Linus can get his hands on them? At this point I'm kind of curious if there's anything, even something impossibly expensive and impractical, that could game at 5K right now.

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It's the iMac's internal hardware not having support for Windows. The iMac had to use a custom connector to use 5K. This monitor uses two DisplayPort cables to use 5K because (as Linus says) only using one limits you to 4K.

Oh ok thanks


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Sorry to be harsh again, but I think the approach of the video doesn't make a lot of sense. I know the main audience of LTT are interested in gaming related hardware, but if the screen is clearly targeted at (prosumers and) professionals, it doesn't make a lot of sense to approach as an gaming peripheral. Also, Would've liked seeing it getting used with graphical-, DTP-, CAD-/CAM-, office- and/or video-software for an overview what CAN be done with the screen.

 

Do games even support 5K at this point ?

 

The review is not bad by any means fiy.

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So Linus if it's pointless to use that screen in Windows with the scaling issue, what about Linux and Steam OS instead, how would it work there??

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Any chance you could run some tests with a pair of Titan Xs in SLI to see how that extra VRAM helps with the sheer amount of pixels on this massive display, or is it the guts of the Maxwell chip that need to be replaced in order to drive something like this at 60 FPS?

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