DirectX12 AMD and Nvidia Multi-GPU Configurations Confirmed

[azurezeed]

AMD would allow it but no Nvidia

[mr moose]

well, 6 weeks ago if I had of asked if Nvidia would have made physx open source, everyone would have laughed at me and said absolutely not,  Nvidia won't allow this, that or the other thing.  I am going to wait and see before I make concrete claims about what either Nvidia or AMD do about this. 

[MetroP]

This hardly confirms anything, she obviously just googled the answer. Cross vendor multi-GPU will NEVER work. Google Hydralogix, epic fail, Nvidia blocked it at every level.

[Silent_Xaxal]

Here's hoping I can enjoy PhysX alongside Free Sync (If ever Nvidia decides not to be a fucking asshole about it).

[Shahnewaz]

well, 6 weeks ago if I had of asked if Nvidia would have made physx open source, everyone would have laughed at me and said absolutely not,  Nvidia won't allow this, that or the other thing.  I am going to wait and see before I make concrete claims about what either Nvidia or AMD do about this. 

To be clear, it's not exactly "open source". Or completely open source (CPU portion only).

Furthermore, you'll have to jump through hoops, memberships and agreements to get access to the SDK (https://developer.nvidia.com/physx-source-github), unlike the Linux kernel (https://github.com/torvalds/linux).

 

Even Tech Report doesn't explicitly say "open source". (http://techreport.com/news/27910/nvidia-physx-joins-the-free-source-party).

 

From what I understand it's free to USE ONLY for an Nvidia registered developer program member, but nowhere near open source accessible, copying allowed and modifiable like the Linux kernel. No modification allowed from what I see so far (https://developer.nvidia.com/registered-developer-agreement). Much like Mantle, but with further restrictions to implementation. (CPU PhysX allowed only)

 

Well, in the end, Nvidia did open up PhysX as free license and free to use, but did end up doing the same, not allowing this and that.

[Misanthrope]

Even if cross vendor configs do not happen (I also think that's almost impossible) it still means that you could mix and match cards from different generations and such, for both companies, it's still good news imho.

[Dabombinable]

Even if cross vendor configs do not happen (I also think that's almost impossible) it still means that you could mix and match cards from different generations and such, for both companies, it's still good news imho.

Yep, I will actually be able to ue my GTX 650ti for something else other than being a PhysX card for battle field and unreal tournament 3.

[mr moose]

To be clear, it's not exactly "open source". Or completely open source (CPU portion only).

Furthermore, you'll have to jump through hoops, memberships and agreements to get access to the SDK (https://developer.nvidia.com/physx-source-github), unlike the Linux kernel (https://github.com/torvalds/linux).

 

Even Tech Report doesn't explicitly say "open source". (http://techreport.com/news/27910/nvidia-physx-joins-the-free-source-party).

 

From what I understand it's free to USE ONLY for an Nvidia registered developer program member, but nowhere near open source accessible, copying allowed and modifiable like the Linux kernel. No modification allowed from what I see so far (https://developer.nvidia.com/registered-developer-agreement). Much like Mantle, but with further restrictions to implementation. (CPU PhysX allowed only)

 

Well, in the end, Nvidia did open up PhysX as free license and free to use, but did end up doing the same, not allowing this and that.

 

I think you missed the point.  Had this been suggested before the news broke everyone would have shouted not likely. that is the point.

[Guest Kloaked]

AMD will probably be fine with mixing GPUs, but douche Nvidia won't allow it because its a selfish bitch of a company.

How they earn people's respect is beyond me.

AMD doesn't give two shits about you, but you're going to call Nvidia a "selfish bitch of a company" for no real reason? Kk.

[Faa]

AMD will probably be fine with mixing GPUs, but douche Nvidia won't allow it because its a selfish bitch of a company.

 

How they earn people's respect is beyond me.

It will take at least a year to work this perfectly out, I wouldn't be surprised seeing people storming forums with stability issues. Nvidia hasn't said anything about supporting AMD cards or not, you could presume the same thing from AMD.

[Opcode]

AMD doesn't give two shits about you, but you're going to call Nvidia a "selfish bitch of a company" for no real reason? Kk.

Seriously, AMD relations with consumers is easily ten times stronger than Nvidia's. You can go on twitter right now and message some of the higher ups in the company and have a conversation with them like normal people. Nvidia on the other hand won't hold their ass for you, they just want your money.

[Faa]

Seriously, AMD relations with consumers is easily ten times stronger than Nvidia's. You can go on twitter right now and message some of the higher ups in the company and have a conversation with them like normal people. Nvidia on the other hand won't hold their ass for you, they just want your money.

O really?

Literally recommending their cheapest GPU and nothing else. So I don't see how Nvidia is "HAHA WE GOT YOUR MONEY ROFL".

Also as far as I'm aware AMD is the one who actually charged 800$ (1000$ incl board/cooler) for a 1000MHz overclock while offering 50% worse performance than a 500$ CPU. And yea I'm talking about the 9590. I haven't seen anyone doing this kind of scam yet.

[mr moose]

Seriously, AMD relations with consumers is easily ten times stronger than Nvidia's. You can go on twitter right now and message some of the higher ups in the company and have a conversation with them like normal people. Nvidia on the other hand won't hold their ass for you, they just want your money.

 

you just keep telling yourself that.

 

Looking at sales figures, market share, etc it seems more people have less of a problem with nvidia than you think.  Please stop making up figures.

[X1XNobleX1X]

We knew this a while ago, just an FYI.,

[Opcode]

O really?

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Literally recommending their cheapest GPU and nothing else. So I don't see how Nvidia is "HAHA WE GOT YOUR MONEY ROFL".

Also as far as I'm aware AMD is the one who actually charged 800$ (1000$ incl board/cooler) for a 1000MHz overclock while offering 50% worse performance than a 500$ CPU. And yea I'm talking about the 9590. I haven't seen anyone doing this kind of scam yet.

As always my post went completely over your head (a reoccurring trend). In that promotion Nvidia is probably trying to push stock because any stock that doesn't sell is losing the company money. Half of the games listed run like dog on the GTX 750. So your argument should resemble something more like this "TRY ONE OF THESE CARDS, AND WHEN IT DOESN'T PERFORM WORTH DOG UPGRADE TO OUR $3000 TITAN Z". Nvidia already hit this wall with the GTX 970 stunt they pulled. What happened? Sure send us back your GTX 970 for a full refund and upgrade to our GTX 980 that doesn't have this problem. I could also throw in AMD's "Never Settle" campaign that is still active today that offers free games and recommends lower end cards.

 

 

Also I don't comprehend your off-topic'ness. This thread is about GPUs and not CPUs.

 

you just keep telling yourself that.

 

Looking at sales figures, market share, etc it seems more people have less of a problem with nvidia than you think.  Please stop making up figures.

Less problems? I would suggest you to stay relevant to my posts. Consumer relations are from interaction with the consumers and not just about supplying a product.

[Faa]

As always my post went completely over your head (a reoccurring trend). In that promotion Nvidia is probably trying to push stock because any stock that doesn't sell is losing the company money. Half of the games listed run like dog on the GTX 750. So your argument should resemble something more like this "TRY ONE OF THESE CARDS, AND WHEN IT DOESN'T PERFORM WORTH DOG UPGRADE TO OUR $3000 TITAN Z". Nvidia already hit this wall with the GTX 970 stunt they pulled. What happened? Sure send us back your GTX 970 for a full refund and upgrade to our GTX 980 that doesn't have this problem.

They don't seem to be recommending their 980/Titan Z at all; http://www.geforce.com/hardware/help-me-choose-gpu

But AMD on the other hand;

Recommending their most expensive GPU's for their CPU's (the lowest 8xxx getting a 280 recommended means it bottlenecks a 290x) when the difference is 5% between the lowest FX8xxx & FX 9590, that's not going to lift a 80% bottleneck up compared to Intel.

Ow, theyre also suggesting a 990FX (which doesn't have any advantages over 970 other than SLI/CF) and 2133MHz which doesnt again have any advantages over 1333MHz and the best part is their memory controller can't do 2133MHz (it's not even officially supported).

Edit: Just saw your picture, only says which games you are getting from which card you buy. Trying to boost your sales offering free games is completely different than being honest and saying "look WoW is hardly a GPU limited game, a 750 will perform the same as a 970" just like what I just showed.

 

Also I don't comprehend your off-topic'ness. This thread is about GPUs and not CPUs.

 

Nope you were talking about a company only trying to jack people off that didn't even have a shit to do with GPU's either.

[79wjd]

Nvidia already hit this wall with the GTX 970 stunt they pulled. What happened? Sure send us back your GTX 970 for a full refund and upgrade to our GTX 980 that doesn't have this problem.

Oh that doesn't sound anything like AMD's rebranding of GPUs. Hey, you have a last generation gpu (ex: HD 7970), you should upgrade to a "current" generation card (ex: R9 280x). And I can assure you, a lot of people 'upgraded' from the HD to the EXACT same R9 card thinking they were getting an upgrade. 

 

But of course, that's just AMD trying to offer their customers a service....right? 

[Rohith_Kumar_Sp]

Seriously, AMD relations with consumers is easily ten times stronger than Nvidia's. You can go on twitter right now and message some of the higher ups in the company and have a conversation with them like normal people. Nvidia on the other hand won't hold their ass for you, they just want your money.

Nvidia has LIVE Chat , AMD doesn't End of discussion. not saying AMD is bad, just pointed out the flaw in your statement , unless i'm also wrong and AMD does have a live chat , you don't need people on twitter to reply to you to think they are godsend, they are not , everyone out there is waiting to get to your wallet at the end of the day

[Kamina]

I'm more interested on how VRAM will stack. 

[Guest Kloaked]

I'm just a random guy. I don't think any company gives two shits about me.

But I don't think I need to explain why I call Nvidia a "selfish bitch of a company"

I think you do. There's literally nothing Nvidia has done to become some incarnation of Satan that some people, who also happen to just love AMD, make them out to be.

Seriously, AMD relations with consumers is easily ten times stronger than Nvidia's. You can go on twitter right now and message some of the higher ups in the company and have a conversation with them like normal people. Nvidia on the other hand won't hold their ass for you, they just want your money.

They do that because they have to. Nvidia doesn't need to do any of that because they have such a gigantic marketshare.

Plus, if I have any issues with my GPU's (I currently own a Sapphire 280x and an EVGA 980) I go to the card manufacturer, not the OEM for the chip.

And what do you think AMD wants? If they just didn't want your money, they wouldn't bother talking to people via social media.

[Tim Drake]

This would be great if I could just buy like an R9 290 or R9 380x or something further down the line

 

Ain't gunna happen tho.

[The Crazed Child]

If some random MS support rep knew about it it's probably been news for some time now

[Ex14]

wow for a moment i thought i stepped into a 970 thread.

[WhiteSkyMage]

Originally, Tom's hardware posted an article claiming to have an inside source at Microsoft saying that Nvidia and AMD Multi-GPU Configurations would be possible. 

EDIT: The more exciting part of this news for me is it in a way confirms the split frame rendering system that will allow us to use older and unmatched cards together and will also give us (Theoretically) perfect scaling.

I recently was helping a friend out who's keyboard's drivers didn't work and was talking to a Microsoft rep who told me this:

Any news about Vram stacking on DX12?

[CM2546]

@WhiteSkyMage I think this (although a little sketchy) makes that seem a lot more possible as sfr in Mantle has vram stacking.

 

Even if Nvidia Locks this down, as long as we are able to use our cpu integrated graphics and older/less powerful/more powerful nvidia gpus, i'll be fine with it.