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Guide: How to Install Window's the Right Way!

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Posted · Original PosterOP

That's why you reimage every few months, so your always upto date.

That's more trouble than its worth don't you think?  You only need to get all your files together as often as you install Windows.  Regardless though, its not going in this guide.  This would need to be in a entirely separate guide like "How to Back Up Windows for a Easy Restore"


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That's more trouble than its worth don't you think?  You only need to get all your files together as often as you install Windows.  Regardless though, its not going in this guide.  This would need to be in a entirely separate guide like "How to Back Up Windows for a Easy Restore"

Nope, 10 mins work every few months saves hours of work when something goes wrong.


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It would take longer than 10 minutes to even get all your software downloaded...  Not to include getting it all together.


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So I am getting ready to do a video on this in about 12 hours... I need anyone that has any final comments to let me know what you think!


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Don't wanna sound negative cause this is a great guide but this is not the right way for users with UEFI motherboards.


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How so, please elaborate.

Don't wanna sound negative cause this is a great guide but this is not the right way for users with UEFI motherboards.


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How so, please elaborate.

Installing this way on a UEFI system will cause longer boot times and won't enable EFI security features like Secure Boot or Windows EFI intergration like shift reboot to enter WinRE.

 

Should also note UEFI installs only work on Win 8 and up, for 7 down this method should be used.


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Installing this way on a UEFI system will cause longer boot times and won't enable EFI security features like Secure Boot or Windows EFI intergration like shift reboot to enter WinRE.

 

Should also note UEFI installs only work on Win 8 and up, for 7 down this method should be used.

I am aware of what UEFI is, and its benefits.  But I do fail to see what this process did wrong.  It follows ASUS's guide for this motherboard, please see the manual.

 

And as far as the Windows 7 vs Windows 8, it is documented in this post that this is for Windows 8.1 and any variation of Windows otherwise might have slight differences but the basic steps will remain the same.  In Windows 7, you don't have UEFI boot process, therefor the slight change is you would just boot into your install media normally.

 

If you do have a correction for me please let me know and I will review the correction, gather sources to verify the correction, then update the post with the sources.  Otherwise, I still fail to see where this doesn't enable UEFI boot method as I am using a UEFI compatible OS and Motherboard, UEFI compatible boot media, along with enabling UEFI, and selecting the UEFI Boot device option.  No steps were missed.


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Honestly, there is not "right way" to install Windows. It's just a matter of clicking and personalizing your menus and you're at the desktop. It's not like someone would shove their willy into the disk drive while it's installing.


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Honestly, there is not "right way" to install Windows. It's just a matter of clicking and personalizing your menus and you're at the desktop. It's not like someone would shove their willy into the disk drive while it's installing.

There is a right way to ensure programs and drivers aren't conflicting.  You wouldn't want to install AI Suite before you installed your chipset drivers would you?


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There is a right way to ensure programs and drivers aren't conflicting.  You wouldn't want to install AI Suite before you installed your chipset drivers would you?

Meh, true.


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Meh, true.

I agree that you're allowed to install Windows any way that you choose.  This guide, although, is meant so when you're done you will have NO conflicts with software (unless those conflicts are developer ridden, like software that simply isn't compatible).  And it is meant to be extremely detailed, so even a novice user (someone who I consider knows how to copy and paste using right click menus) can get the result of a great install of Windows.


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There is a right way to ensure programs and drivers aren't conflicting.  You wouldn't want to install AI Suite before you installed your chipset drivers would you?

 

I haven't read all of the guide in full.

 

But what do you mean?

Is there an order which you must follow when installing drivers? I just follow whichever order appears in the explorer window - as in which folder name shows first and go down like that.

 

On that note, when I install drivers for my desktop and laptop, I always get some error with some drivers. For example on my laptop, some drivers say this laptop does not meet the system requirements or some crap like that.

Any advice on how to deal with such errors? I assume this stuff is not normal?

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Yes! There is a specific order you need to install drivers. For example, if you have a x97 Intel chipset you'll need to install your chipset drivers before you can install SATA drivers or USB 3.0 drivers. The reasoning for this is because USB 3.0 and SATA are built into the chipset.

I haven't read all of the guide in full.

 

But what do you mean?

Is there an order which you must follow when installing drivers? I just follow whichever order appears in the explorer window - as in which folder name shows first and go down like that.

 

On that note, when I install drivers for my desktop and laptop, I always get some error with some drivers. For example on my laptop, some drivers say this laptop does not meet the system requirements or some crap like that.

Any advice on how to deal with such errors? I assume this stuff is not normal?


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Yes! There is a specific order you need to install drivers. For example, if you have a x97 Intel chipset you'll need to install your chipset drivers before you can install SATA drivers or USB 3.0 drivers. The reasoning for this is because USB 3.0 and SATA are built into the chipset.

What is this order?

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its in the first post.

What is this order?


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my question is why would you? You can get the ISO from Microsoft for free.

It is safe to use an ISO from a non-microsoft source if the SHA1 hash was verified agains the one publicly available on MSDN.


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my question is why would you? You can get the ISO from Microsoft for free.

No you can't. Not for Windows 7 if you have an OEM key, and 8.1 installers use encrypted ESD files, which can reduce performance and are not considered official. The best way to get an official ISO is by going to msdn.microsoft.com, going to MSDN subscription access, finding the file name, looking it up on btdigg.org, downloading a torrent, and verifying its SHA1.


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No you can't. Not for Windows 7 if you have an OEM key, and 8.1 installers use encrypted ESD files, which can reduce performance and are not considered official. The best way to get an official ISO is by going to msdn.microsoft.com, going to MSDN subscription access, finding the file name, looking it up on btdigg.org, downloading a torrent, and verifying its SHA1.

Im sorry sir, but you are wrong.

 

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/create-reset-refresh-media This is the place to go for a Windows 8.1 install media.

 

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_install/download-windows-7-sp1-link-have-product-key/cde8f6e3-6034-4d4c-a97d-53cece849f2c  This is the official places to go for the Windows 7 ISO's, which if you were aware, was hosted by digitalmedia NOT Microsoft.


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Im sorry sir, but you are wrong.

 

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/create-reset-refresh-media This is the place to go for a Windows 8.1 install media.

 

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_install/download-windows-7-sp1-link-have-product-key/cde8f6e3-6034-4d4c-a97d-53cece849f2c  This is the official places to go for the Windows 7 ISO's, which if you were aware, was hosted by digitalmedia NOT Microsoft.

As I stated before, the Windows 8.1 downloads use the ESD format, which is encrypted. SHA1 hashes of ISOs created by the Media Creation Tool will not match any of the ones on MSDN. The only advantage those ESD files have is that they're smaller. Otherwise, WIM is recommended. ISOs on MSDN use a WIM file, just like any ISO since Vista. And the Digital River downloads are no longer available.


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please go through the processes above and see if you come out with a iso

As I stated before, the Windows 8.1 downloads use the ESD format, which is encrypted. SHA1 hashes of ISOs created by the Media Creation Tool will not match any of the ones on MSDN. The only advantage those ESD files have is that they're smaller. Otherwise, WIM is recommended. ISOs on MSDN use a WIM file, just like any ISO since Vista. And the Digital River downloads are no longer available.


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please go through the processes above and see if you come out with a iso

I have used this method, the end result is an ISO, but that's not what's important. What's important is the archive containing the base system (install.wim on a regular ISO) is encrypted.


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please go through the processes above and see if you come out with a iso

 

I recommend that you recommend that after all is updated, and the favorite third party utilities are installed, to clone the drive.  Cloning is easy and assures that you never have to install windows from scratch again.

 

Windows has a built in system imagining service, but I do not like it.

 

You can reference Clonezilla as a 100% free, no adware - nothing extra, cloning solution:  http://clonezilla.org/

 

You don't have to add a tutorial for this, but mentioning the benefits of cloning a drive might interest people enough to learn on their own.

 

Good tutorial BTW.

 

All the things you mention in the OS installing process I redo in 10 minutes from the image.... plus I have my utility programs, and League Of Legends in the image as well.

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