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AMD offering a deal on their cards if you return your 970!

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oooh oohh ooooh yes, lets bring this up again!

We cant have a good GPU circlejerk without pretending we care about power consumption! 

 

 

We have to save the whales man!

 

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wow really ? no need to be asses,

I don't take sides on the whole amd/nivida fan base my reasons are more practical . I only care about power consumption and TWM becauses it means I don't have to A. worry about over heating (TWM  of an R290 is insane) and B. I don't have to use two molax to six pin and 2 six pin to 8 pin to power my gpu, less cable clutter and I can put those power cables to use, otherwise that's it.


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Its not a big deal in terms of savings.

Only PSU cost.

 

So you're going to skip over the fact that power consumption is directly linked to noise and heatproduction inside the case? Which is absolutely vital in silence and ITX builds?

It IS a valid argument. Quite possibly the reason I went with the 970 in the first place. My computer makes less noise than ambient. It's literally near-silent. A 290X would've utterly destroyed my ambitions to create a near-silent machine with it's TDP and would've also heated up to extremes in the small Node304.

 

If you're so addament about "scenario's matter" as in the other post, you should accept this argument from people aswell.

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So you're going to skip over the fact that power consumption is directly linked to noise and heatproduction inside the case? Which is absolutely vital in silence and ITX builds?

It IS a valid argument. Quite possibly the reason I went with the 970 in the first place. My computer makes less noise than ambient. It's literally near-silent. A 290X would've utterly destroyed my ambitions to create a near-silent machine with it's TDP and would've also heated up to extremes in the small Node304.

 

If you're so addament about "scenario's matter" as in the other post, you should accept this argument from people aswell.

 

For silent builds and ITX , sure.

 

I reccomended a gtx 960 ITX for a build i did for my friend.

 

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/297961-mini-itx-console-killer/

 

I thought you were talking about costs in the power bill.

 

My bad.

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I wouldn't trade my 970s for a AMD card even if they have proper memory. I'd trade my 970s for 980s, that would be okay. :D But nice move AMD..

 

EVGA are doing that if you have a EVGA card...

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So you're going to skip over the fact that power consumption is directly linked to noise and heatproduction inside the case? Which is absolutely vital in silence and ITX builds?

It IS a valid argument. Quite possibly the reason I went with the 970 in the first place. My computer makes less noise than ambient. It's literally near-silent. A 290X would've utterly destroyed my ambitions to create a near-silent machine with it's TDP and would've also heated up to extremes in the small Node304.

 

If you're so addament about "scenario's matter" as in the other post, you should accept this argument from people aswell.

 

 

Right for certain use case scenarios heat and sound matter. However, for the most part, arguing that Power Consumption > Overall Performance in a majority of cases would be 100% wrong.

 

I'd go as far to say its one of the least important parts for a majority of people

 

I've only met a handful of people who have avoided a higher performance card because it "took more power" and they have all been very special use cases.


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they took a jab at thier drivers because amd drivers have been crap 100's of time's whereas nvidia has made a single mistake

just off the top of my head NVIDIA has released drivers that brick GPUs, sacrificed image quality to win benchmarks, used game works to slow down non-NVIDIA parts, struggled with direct x 9 launch performance and multi monitor support, left bugs unfixed for years including basic HDMI signals forcing users to resort to workarounds, not bothering to optimize drivers for powerful products just because there is something newer out. The difference is NVIDIA marketing is so effective that when people have issues such as a brand new 970 which is too noisy from coil whine or cannot manage it's VRAM people will just give them the benefit of the doubt. Whereas when something happens to AMD most people including some of the press try to connect it to some imaginary trend of bad drivers etc. My personal experience switching to AMD last year has been hugely positive and I have enjoying my gaming tremendously and trouble free. The truth is both NVIDIA and AMD are companies which make fantastic GPUs and have contributed to PC gaming, and they both have a share of issues like any tech company which lives on the cutting edge.
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Its not a big deal in terms of savings.

Only PSU cost.

 

Almost 100w between amd and intel:

 

Its like 25 bucks a year MAX.

 

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just off the top of my head NVIDIA has released drivers that brick GPUs, sacrificed image quality to win benchmarks, used game works to slow down non-NVIDIA parts, struggled with direct x 9 launch performance and multi monitor support, left bugs unfixed for years including basic HDMI signals forcing users to resort to workarounds, not bothering to optimize drivers for powerful products just because there is something newer out. The difference is NVIDIA marketing is so effective that when people have issues such as a brand new 970 which is too noisy from coil whine or cannot manage it's VRAM people will just give them the benefit of the doubt. Whereas when something happens to AMD most people including some of the press try to connect it to some imaginary trend of bad drivers etc. My personal experience switching to AMD last year has been hugely positive and I have enjoying my gaming tremendously and trouble free. The truth is both NVIDIA and AMD are companies which make fantastic GPUs and have contributed to PC gaming, and they both have a share of issues like any tech company which lives on the cutting edge.

 

I think nvidia launched drivers that burned a couple gpus yeah.

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EVGA are doing that if you have a EVGA card...

 

WHAT?! Nice move EVGA, i sadly have a Strix. Do you have a link for that? :D


who cares...

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I love your sig.

 

Thanks :D

Enjoy it while i am around because people are actively trying to ban me.

 

2 points is one warning  ;) and that wont be hard with over 15 senior members reporting every slight coc breach you make. believe me, every troll either got sense beaten into him, or was banned. take your pick

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Yes, they can be equally bad for being dicks about it. One person's bad actions does not justify the bad behaviour of the other. And what AMD is doing now is uninspired and juvinile. I mean, the guy who posted the "4GB means 4GB" is even using memes. I mean really? You have a high position in a company and you use memes? 

 

If someone hits you in the face, and you stab him you will still go to jail.

 

Actually, no, you won't go to jail. Whomever makes the first physical assault is automatically in the wrong and anything you do in retaliation is deemed self defense for as long as you believe there to be an active threat. Guy with the knife will get off scott free, and the idiot who threw the first punch will land his ass in jail once he's out of the hospital.

 

And marketing isn't simple domestic violence, its war. You know the saying, "All's fair in love and war". Don't act as if AMD did something shocking and the all mighty Nvidia would never stoop to this level, the two of them are like a couple children flailing their arms and going for any cheap shot they find. This is what happens when a market is completely dominated by two parties for a prolonged period of time, the aggressiveness of their attacks escalates because there is no 3rd party to hold them accountable. I guarantee you this: for as long as these two companies exist, they will perpetually smack each other around. They always have and they always will.


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lol
i had a talk in with the marketing head if AMD today morning , this is what happened 

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I would also pick a 970 personally, I love my current 770 and .5 gb of ram wouldn't matter to me and anyways they working on fixing it.

You wouldn't mind having a 1.5GB card?


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I got NVIDIA and never had a problem either, :P

 

The only GPU i've ever had die on me is my 9600GT  2 years after purchase :(

 

Its 100% random and almost pure luck as to which side dies and which lives.  My crossfire 6870s are still running hard!


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The only GPU i've ever had die on me is my 9600GT  2 years after purchase :(

 

Its 100% random and almost pure luck as to which side dies and which lives.  My crossfire 6870s are still running hard!

 

Yeah I know. I might get a AMD card next if it equals price of 970 and better than it.

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3.5Gb with slow process on the last .5 . No I would not mind.

 

That would kill my 270x.

 

I woundlt be able to run my games if that was the case.

 

i would just throw it in the nearest garbage bin.

Or sell it at alow price.

 

If i had 1.5 GB + 0.5 GB

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WHAT?! Nice move EVGA, i sadly have a Strix. Do you have a link for that? :D

 

I don't remember where I found it but it'snot official, you have to contact them, I will try to find it for you, was on PCMR Reddit I believe.

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this thread man.....

@zappian i agree both amd and nvidia are money hungry sharks but come on get over .. you have like 10 thread on the 970 issue stop fapping to the same porn dude..... 

also nvidia drivers are so better in linux and that's what i care about 

 

your the one who is circle jerking the topic ..... so please get yo ass back to school kid.... move on 


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That would kill my 270x.

 

I woundlt be able to run my games if that was the case.

 

i would just throw it in the nearest garbage bin.

Or sell it at alow price.

 

If i had 1.5 GB + 0.5 GB

 

What?

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I actually love when companies do this sort of advertising. It provides much needed comedy to events. You know since companies will always push their biggest features and at times compare themselves to the competition often to promote their own product. So when the competition makes a cock-up you can bet money that rivals will jump on it, often with comedic results since its not an official ad campaign for the product but rather a troll campaign to poke fun at the rivals.

 

Its like way back when Xbox One would not allow game trade-ins and Sony just came out and said trade-ins allowed. They even made a video just for the purpose of trolling Microsoft and it was hilarious.

 

 

lol, that was hilarious. the xbot reactions were priceless.

 

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I think AMD timed their response appropriately here as well. If they had've taken jabs before the dust settled, then it would have been dirty. Instead, Nvidia ducked a fatal headshot and AMD are sitting beside them in the trenches watching, and once Nvidia had calmed down, then AMD took some jabs at them for being so careless. AMD waited until Nvidia were clear of harm before having a laugh. even then, someone without a sense of humor is bound to be offended.


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Does anyone not remember AMD from 20 years ago when they actually were better than intel to a point? They took jabs everytime Intel messed up but don't now because intel just crushes them, not so with Nvidia since AMD has rivaling cards.

The point is, AMD has always been an asshole.


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3.5Gb with slow process on the last .5 . No I would not mind.

You said you're happy with your 770 and wouldn't mind having .5GB less.

This is your build right?

http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/244p4j/build_complete_1900_without_tax_build_with/

So unless I'm mistaken you have a 2GB version of the GTX 770 and said you wouldn't be bothered having 1.5GB of VRAM.


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