{Ye Oulde} Console alternatives :D my edition [updated {more like outdated} - 19/03/2018]

SImoHayha · January 30, 2015

See...that's where you're wrong.

Here the cost isn't roughly the same price, as the pricing is in US dollars. Console with 4 games $250, computer $575 (tax, conversion). Boom. More than double.

That's also without games, which are currently (yes, even on Steam) around $30 a pop. So there's a $120 value adder.

I wouldn't save hundreds of dollars on games. There simply aren't that many games that interest me. Same with the friends I play with.

What you PC elites need to realize is not everyone needs a library of 100's of games. We're perfectly content with much less. We have other things that take up our time.

I'd never be able to play through all those games...

quick question does it say the my name saying I replied to you ? On mine it just says the person replying to the topic......really confusing...

dizmo · January 30, 2015

quick question does it say the my name saying I replied to you ? On mine it just says the person replying to the topic......really confusing...

It's because you're following the topic. So you just get notifications whenever anyone replies.

ShadowCaptain · January 30, 2015

SNIP

Don't forget the $60 a year for live/psn

So console costs $250, pc costs $450

3 years x $60 = 180 + 250 = $430 - close to the price of the PC after just 36 months of owning a console!

stconquest · January 30, 2015

Wait, how do you play League of Legends on a console? Dealbreaker

IMPERIUS · January 30, 2015

Imo if you have 400$ to spend on your cpu, mobo, gpu and maybe ram, then the pc is the way to go. If you have 400$ for the WHOLE system then I would take consoles, since they WILL play all games, at least 720p 30fps (I don´t really expect them to go that low) because even today these systems aren´t really that better than consoles and will be pretty much useless in 2-3yrs

dizmo · January 30, 2015

Don't forget the $60 a year for live/psn

So console costs $250, pc costs $450

3 years x $60 = 180 + 250 = $430 - close to the price of the PC after just 36 months of owning a console!

You can grab it for $30 pretty easily when it goes on sale, which brings it down to a whopping $0.08 a day.

Considering I spend $7 a day on tea...it doesn't seem like an unreasonable figure

Don't forget that $450 is in USD. Which is considerably higher when converted to CAD.

Parts are also quite a bit more expensive north of the 49th.

ShadowCaptain · January 30, 2015

You can grab it for $30 pretty easily when it goes on sale, which brings it down to a whopping $0.08 a day.

Considering I spend $7 a day on tea...it doesn't seem like an unreasonable figure

Don't forget that $450 is in USD. Which is considerably higher when converted to CAD.

Parts are also quite a bit more expensive north of the 49th.

Yeah well here in the UK prices are even worse, but I can still do a £300-£400 build to match the £299-£350 consoles

on sale, yeah then just buy all your games in the 3 steam sales that happen every year, and humble bundle

dont forget pc backwards comparability! want to play that PS3 game? well you need to keep or buy a PS3, oh? ps2? yes that aswell, oh and a 360 while you are at it or you know.. just pop onto GOG and get the old game for £5 with no issues

Unfortunately the cost argument can be extended or contracted to suit the argument, "no tv included etc" - but £££ for £££ console for PC, you can get a similararly capable PC, for the same to 25% more cost for the console

Whether those benefits are worth it or not are up to the end user

zappian · January 30, 2015

Yeah well here in the UK prices are even worse, but I can still do a £300-£400 build to match the £299-£350 consoles

on sale, yeah then just buy all your games in the 3 steam sales that happen every year, and humble bundle

dont forget pc backwards comparability! want to play that PS3 game? well you need to keep or buy a PS3, oh? ps2? yes that aswell, oh and a 360 while you are at it or you know.. just pop onto GOG and get the old game for £5 with no issues

Unfortunately the cost argument can be extended or contracted to suit the argument, "no tv included etc" - but £££ for £££ console for PC, you can get a similararly capable PC, for the same to 25% more cost for the console

Whether those benefits are worth it or not are up to the end user

Is a pentium g3258 and a 270( my build) a better experience than a console.

It would be kinda rocky in newer titles.

Just saying.

ShadowCaptain · January 30, 2015

Is a pentium g3258 and a 270( my build) a better experience than a console.

It would be kinda rocky in newer titles.

Just saying.

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Systems/Budget-Gaming-PC-Shootout-Affordable-System-Builds-Compared/Game-Benchmark-Results

pentium and 270/750ti should still result in playable results for new games

zappian · January 30, 2015

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Systems/Budget-Gaming-PC-Shootout-Affordable-System-Builds-Compared/Game-Benchmark-Results

pentium and 270/750ti should still result in playable results for new games

I guess.

I have to do a 400 dollar build with an i3 and a 270.

Gonna see if i can pull that off.

dizmo · January 30, 2015

Yeah well here in the UK prices are even worse, but I can still do a £300-£400 build to match the £299-£350 consoles

on sale, yeah then just buy all your games in the 3 steam sales that happen every year, and humble bundle

dont forget pc backwards comparability! want to play that PS3 game? well you need to keep or buy a PS3, oh? ps2? yes that aswell, oh and a 360 while you are at it or you know.. just pop onto GOG and get the old game for £5 with no issues

Unfortunately the cost argument can be extended or contracted to suit the argument, "no tv included etc" - but £££ for £££ console for PC, you can get a similararly capable PC, for the same to 25% more cost for the console

Whether those benefits are worth it or not are up to the end user

Yeah, here not so much. Plus it's only $250 for the console and 4 games.

I agree that Steam would be rather enticing, however I don't plan on waiting a year to buy the games on sale and play with my buds. So they're currently $30 - $40 each.

Console: $290 (with 1 year of Gold) Computer: $695 (tower plus 4 games)

Backwards compatibility is cool and all but I don't really have a use for it.

It could...but...computers need monitors too, no?

I get why PC gaming is better, however in this case it just doesn't pan out.

Is a pentium g3258 and a 270( my build) a better experience than a console.

It would be kinda rocky in newer titles.

Just saying.

I've seen a ton of stutter and some games that are straight up unplayable with the G3258.

Which is why I'd never consider it a proper contender.

zappian · January 30, 2015

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($105.75 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: Biostar B85MG Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: Crucial 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($31.98 @ OutletPC)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($25.49 @ Amazon)

Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270 2GB TurboDuo Video Card ($133.98 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.88 @ OutletPC)

Total: $409.05

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-30 06:20 EST-0500

Caseless i3 build.

You just need some plywood and you are good

@dizmo @ShadowCaptain

ShadowCaptain · January 30, 2015

Plus it's only $250 for the console and 4 games.

Sorry?

Xbox One with 1 (broken) game $350

http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-One-Assassins-Creed-Unity-Bundle/dp/B00NFXON1Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422616883&sr=8-1&keywords=xbox+one&pebp=1422616886005&peasin=B00NFXON1Q

PS4 with no games $399

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Console/dp/B00BGA9WK2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422616878&sr=8-1&keywords=ps4

Where the hell can you get a next gen console for $250 with 4 games

SNIP

yep i3 is doable

_______________

@dizmo

Also do you realise that 99% of console users ALSO own a pc? so they have a $350 console and a $300 PC - why not get a $650 pc that you can upgrade - so you dont have to keep buying new PCS or new consoles all the time

zappian · January 30, 2015

Sorry?

Xbox One with 1 (broken) game $350

http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-One-Assassins-Creed-Unity-Bundle/dp/B00NFXON1Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422616883&sr=8-1&keywords=xbox+one&pebp=1422616886005&peasin=B00NFXON1Q

PS4 with no games $399

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Console/dp/B00BGA9WK2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422616878&sr=8-1&keywords=ps4

Where the hell can you get a next gen console for $250 with 4 games

yep i3 is doable

_______________

@dizmo

Also do you realise that 99% of console users ALSO own a pc? so they have a $350 console and a $300 PC - why not get a $650 pc that you can upgrade - so you dont have to keep buying new PCS or new consoles all the time

You can use something like this.

For the case

dizmo · January 30, 2015

Sorry?

Xbox One with 1 (broken) game $350

http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-One-Assassins-Creed-Unity-Bundle/dp/B00NFXON1Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422616883&sr=8-1&keywords=xbox+one&pebp=1422616886005&peasin=B00NFXON1Q

PS4 with no games $399

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Console/dp/B00BGA9WK2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422616878&sr=8-1&keywords=ps4

Where the hell can you get a next gen console for $250 with 4 games

Craigslist. Local classifieds are a wonderful thing.

The one huge issue I have with these "console killer" PC's is that most of the games have to be played on low. Some games are unplayable, as shown with the graphs you provided a couple posts ago.

With a console I know that when I put in a disc, it'll run. It won't dip down to 4 fps like some of the titles listed.

I imagine the console titles, while not reaching anything comparable to the ultra or high settings of a PC, will at least be at medium. Not low. And a constant 30fps +. Which most of hte titles struggled to accomplish on the budget hardware.

I do plan on building a gaming rig. Just when it makes more sense. SkyLake/Pascal.

I currently have a Samsung Series 9. It does what I need, and even plays most of the games I want to play.

ShadowCaptain · January 30, 2015

SINP

Dude you cannot use USED prices - I could get a PC for $50 and slap a GPU inside >< could probably even buy a gaming PC used for that price

Not really, since a lot of time the consoles are not playing at 1080p, bur sometihng like 900p up-scaled to 1080p, which is easy for most GPUs, dont forget only 10% of games are THAT demanding

Even AAA titles like COD, CS:GO, BF4 etc will play very easily on medium/high 900/1080p on relatively low end hardware

and exactly you have an ultrabook, for the price of an ultrabook you could get a gaming laptop/pc that does the job of the console AND computer

(I am actually planning to get a PS4 soon but only because exclusives prevent me buying certain games on PC)

dizmo · January 30, 2015

Dude you cannot use USED prices - I could get a PC for $50 and slap a GPU inside >< could probably even buy a gaming PC used for that price

Not really, since a lot of time the consoles are not playing at 1080p, bur sometihng like 900p up-scaled to 1080p, which is easy for most GPUs, dont forget only 10% of games are THAT demanding

Even AAA titles like COD, CS:GO, BF4 etc will play very easily on medium/high 900/1080p on relatively low end hardware

and exactly you have an ultrabook, for the price of an ultrabook you could get a gaming laptop/pc that does the job of the console AND computer

(I am actually planning to get a PS4 soon but only because exclusives prevent me buying certain games on PC)

Sure I can. That's what I'm buying it for, that's what it costs.

I've looked around at PC's used as well. Nothing comes close to it for the same price. Most people still want $600 for their 4 year old system. And people pay it because there uneducated.

I wouldn't call CS:GO a AAA title. I find it odd that the reviewer didn't use those games in the review, but this one points out the stuttering issues with newer titles like Battlefield 4. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-pentium-g3258-review

Relatively I think would be an i3 or higher. The dual core is just struggin.

I play a console at a further distance than I play on a computer. Probably 4x. So the slight pixel drop isn't as big of a deal to me as if I were sitting right up against the screen.

Yes but I already own the ultrabook I wouldn't sell it for something fatter and harder to carry around. Though I imagine it'll only be a couple years and they'll have sub 3lb gaming beasts.

Sauron · January 30, 2015

Imo if you have 400$ to spend on your cpu, mobo, gpu and maybe ram, then the pc is the way to go. If you have 400$ for the WHOLE system then I would take consoles, since they WILL play all games, at least 720p 30fps (I don´t really expect them to go that low) because even today these systems aren´t really that better than consoles and will be pretty much useless in 2-3yrs

you CAN play at 1080p 60fps on these if you're willing to compromise settings though. And a lot of people would prefer resolution and framerate over any level of AA or ambient occlusion.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($105.75 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: Biostar B85MG Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: Crucial 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($31.98 @ OutletPC)

Memory: Crucial 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($31.98 @ OutletPC)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($25.49 @ Amazon)

Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270 2GB TurboDuo Video Card ($133.98 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.88 @ OutletPC)

Total: $409.05

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-30 06:20 EST-0500

Caseless i3 build.

Dat 320gb hdd tho

zappian · January 30, 2015

you CAN play at 1080p 60fps on these if you're willing to compromise settings though. And a lot of people would prefer resolution and framerate over any level of AA or ambient occlusion.

Dat 320gb hdd tho

Hey i3s aint cheap

ShadowCaptain · January 30, 2015

SNIP

Price comparisons are always between NEW items, used is not factored in

Sure there are frame deviations on the pentium and on lower end chips but most gamers on low end systems wont care, and they could just vsync to 30fps and play just fine without frame drops

maybe CS:go is not 100% AAA but what I mean is that not all games are demanding like metro last light, games like tomb raider and stuff will play really well

Hell I am playing watch dogs on an 11" gaming laptop with a 650m! and it plays fine

There are some very light prett cheap gaming laptops these days like the HP Omen/acer nitro etc at like 4.5lb! which is quite amazing

zappian · January 30, 2015

Price comparisons are always between NEW items, used is not factored in

Sure there are frame deviations on the pentium and on lower end chips but most gamers on low end systems wont care, and they could just vsync to 30fps and play just fine without frame drops

maybe CS:go is not 100% AAA but what I mean is that not all games are demanding like metro last light, games like tomb raider and stuff will play really well

Hell I am playing watch dogs on an 11" gaming laptop with a 650m! and it plays fine

There are some very light prett cheap gaming laptops these days like the HP Omen/acer nitro etc at like 4.5lb! which is quite amazing

Stupid i3 caseless build wins if you have some plywood

alby800 · January 30, 2015

Here is an Australian version, you could probably do better, but it is 11:15pm here and I am tired

Price is compared to an PS4 ($549)

[url=https://www.jbhifi.com.au/games-consoles/games/Gaming-Consoles/ps4-console/ps4-playstation-4-500gb-console/610422/

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($88.00 @ Centre Com)

Motherboard: Asus H81M-PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($67.50 @ Centre Com)

Memory: GeIL DRAGON 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($39.00 @ PLE Computers)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.00 @ PLE Computers)

Video Card: Asus Radeon R7 260 1GB DirectCU II Video Card ($135.00 @ IJK)

Case: Silverstone PS09B MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($45.00 @ CPL Online)

Power Supply: Corsair 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.00 @ IJK)

Total: $549.50

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-31 00:13 EST+1100

Honestly pretty proud of this, I thought it was near damn impossible to build a pc that could play games at this price in Australia

ShadowCaptain · January 30, 2015

Here is an Australian version, you could probably do better, but it is 11:15pm here and I am tired

Price is compared to an PS4 ($549)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($88.00 @ Centre Com)

Motherboard: ASRock H81M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($57.00 @ CPL Online)

Memory: Crucial 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.00 @ CPL Online)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.00 @ Centre Com)

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($167.50 @ Centre Com)

Case: Silverstone PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($42.00 @ CPL Online)

Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Essential 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($55.00 @ IJK)

Total: $551.50

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-31 00:48 EST+1100

alby800 · January 30, 2015

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($88.00 @ Centre Com)

Motherboard: ASRock H81M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($57.00 @ CPL Online)

Memory: Crucial 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.00 @ CPL Online)

Memory: Crucial 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.00 @ CPL Online)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.00 @ Centre Com)

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($167.50 @ Centre Com)

Case: Silverstone PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($42.00 @ CPL Online)

Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Essential 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($55.00 @ IJK)

Total: $551.50

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-31 00:48 EST+1100

ERMAHGERHD IT IS EVER BUDGET BY A $1 UR NOT EVN MLG

lol

Do you know how the 260 compares to the 750?

ShadowCaptain · January 30, 2015

ERMAHGERHD IT IS EVER BUDGET BY A $1 UR NOT EVN MLG

lol

Do you know how the 260 compares to the 750?

750ti is better than the 260 AND 260x

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