My first experience with iOS.

[farhanorakzai]

I know! Specs don't cross evenly between iOS and Android. iOS runs better on 1GB of RAM than an Android phone does on 3, just like a 1.5GHz dual-core A8 can beat a ~2.5GHz quad-core Snapdragon 800.

also the apple a8 is a 20 nm chip. while the snapdragon 805 is 65 nm

[RevoltTrain]

in essence its made for

 

1) rich lazy people

2) rich old people

3) rich stupid people

Don't forget the Hipsters 

[ShadowCaptain]

in essence its made for

 

1) rich lazy people

2) rich old people

3) rich stupid people

 

just

 

wow

 

Since you are adamant people do not understand your point, would you care to explain your reasoning? 

[Tim Drake]

in essence its made for

 

1) rich lazy people

2) rich old people

3) rich stupid people

^ This<3 

[ShadowCaptain]

^ This<3 

 

no, not that

[Tim Drake]

no, not that

Sorry bud, but more people agree with him than you.

Apple is a good OS but too simple and not worth paying THAT much extra just for simplicity.

I have always hated Apple and will continue to hate Apple until their products aren't overpriced.

[79wjd]

Sorry bud, but more people agree with him than you.

Apple is a good OS but too simple and not worth paying THAT much extra just for simplicity.

I have always hated Apple and will continue to hate Apple until their products aren't overpriced.

So are German cars overpriced?

Apple devices hold their value incredibly well -- I bought my 64gb iPhone 5s on contract for $400. A few weeks after the iPhone 6 release I listed it on Craigslist and had multiple offers of $400. Id love to see that happen on s non Apple device. As for the os being "too simple" I've used both iOS and android, and frankly, 95% of the time the two are exactly the same.

[ShadowCaptain]

Sorry bud, but more people agree with him than you.

Apple is a good OS but too simple and not worth paying THAT much extra just for simplicity.

I have always hated Apple and will continue to hate Apple until their products aren't overpriced.

 

in the UK and US iphone vs android is like 50:50 (well roughly), in the east the iPhone is stupidly priced and there are no stores, so there are much less iphones sold

 

you are not paying JUST for simplicity

 

Then that is you choice, but I think you should be more open minded to things, blind hatred for the sake of it, is never a good idea, not ALL apple products are over priced, they are expensive, but that does not make everything expensive over priced

[Nup]

I personally quite enjoy iOS, (although I agree with that comment about having to delete thing just to add an ebook is annoying). 

 

People forget that there are way of buying iphones for a more reasonable price the when they come out. Buy the last generation (very well supported), for example, or through an upgrade scheme with your service provider. 

 

I agree that they are too expensive at launch, but not everyone buys them at launch. 

[ShadowCaptain]

SNIP

 

Well said

 

all of my iPhones have been free on upgrade, even my 128gb iPhone 6, i pay £48 a month for 20gb of 4g, unlimited calls and texts, the handset was free

 

I would be paying the same for any other high end smartphone pretty much!

 

Honestly the reason i like iOS is that, the interface is really nice, its smooth and fast, and app store is still 10000x better, there are way better games on the iPhone and it has a better camera than most other phones

 

So for me, its pretty perfect

[MuffinTopMike]

in essence its made for

 

1) rich lazy people

2) rich old people

3) rich stupid people

So ignorant, of all the people who I know that use iOS devices, none of what you have listed would describe them. If you don't like something about iOS comment about that, rather than hating on the people who use it.

[MrSuperb]

It is funny how many are complaining about itunes, yet here I am an iPhone user for years now, who only uses iTunes to transfer settings and files from an old iPhone to a new one about every 2 years.

[ShadowCaptain]

So ignorant, of all the people who I know that use iOS devices, none of what you have listed would describe them. If you don't like something about iOS comment about that, rather than hating on the people who use it.

 

This!

Why do people always attack the owners instead of the devices or software, its like "omg you bought that phone, you must be retarded" .. instead of "omg you bought that phone, it has such a poor interface" or whatever

 

 

It is funny how many are complaining about itunes, yet here I am an iPhone user for years now, who only uses iTunes to transfer settings and files from an old iPhone to a new one about every 2 years.

 

Its because people do not know how itunes work, its really easy when you understand it! people dont sync properly, then complain it has deleted all their data

[Tim Drake]

in the UK and US iphone vs android is like 50:50 (well roughly), in the east the iPhone is stupidly priced and there are no stores, so there are much less iphones sold

 

you are not paying JUST for simplicity

 

Then that is you choice, but I think you should be more open minded to things, blind hatred for the sake of it, is never a good idea, not ALL apple products are over priced, they are expensive, but that does not make everything expensive over priced

I see your points and I definitely believe in people expressing their sides. 

 

Referring to your contract, my mother gets the same with a Galaxy S5 for £36 while over here it would also be £48 for the iPhone version of the contract.

For how easily iPhones are broken from what I know (from either how popular they are or how stupid kids are nowadays) but I hear more stories of iPhones breaking.

 

Plus, I feel like most of my phone specs are the same yet for £200 cheaper? (Knowing me I am probably wrong about this too)

 

From the 3 Apple products that I have owned, slowed down a lot faster. The only thing that slowed down faster than my iPod Touches was my Nokia Lumia 520 but that thing sucked ass from the get go.

 

Glad we can share our points without breaking out in insults and swear words.

 

P.S No matter who you are, you must realize that iTunes could be a lot better. On older computer that thing halts the computer to a stop and a lot of the time is confusing.

P.S.S Apple also isn't as customisable as Android and I love me some customisation.

[Tim Drake]

I dont really get that though. I have an Iphone 5s, and I must say, Im an absolute tab whore. I normally have between 20-30 tabs open in chrome at one time, and the transition between them is seemless. I can go from an emulator to a game that I had open last week perfectly.

 

Call me an apple fanboy, but thats just how it works for me.

 

My iPod Touch 4th Gen couldn't hold more than 5 tabs before the whole thing started lagging. 

 

Tried factory resetting in and performance tweaks yet no improvements worth my time.

 

That thing started to slow down FAST

[ShadowCaptain]

SNIP

 

yeah we can talk civilised

 

Just to address some of your points

 

1) iphones break easily, not necessarily, dont forget how common they are with younger people which is probably a significant factor - but of the 5 people in my family, all have used iPhones since the 3gs, we upgrade every 2 years, and nobody has yet to break an iPhone, neither have my friends, except for one who jumped into a swimming pool on holiday and it was in their pocket - and I know one person who has broken the glass, but had it replaced for £45

 

2) your specs may appear that way on paper but in benchmarks the iPhone is one of the most powerful phones on the market, for example the A8 and A8x in the iphone 6 and ipad air 2, are some of the fastest CPUs available 

 

quick example

 

GPU - still VERY powerful - especially as we have METAL support in IOS now, a low level API like AMDs Mantle

 

 

3) they dont really slow down, just other tech gets faster and the OS gets more demanding, go grab any 2 year old android phone and run 4.4 or lollypop, I bet they slow down too, 

 

I still use an iPad 4, and I play bioshock and xcom on it every day, including editing photos and videos from my DSLR - works just like day 1, and is fully up to date with the OS too

 

4) customizability, I agree, ios is limited, but not necessarily a bad thing, for a start, you can read user manuals and guides, and they are easier to follow, apps generally look and functional similarly, the OS is very stable, I have never had a crash or wipe

 

my nvidia shield has been bricked twice, and often fails to update, my HTC one (m7) corrupted during an OTA update and I had to reinstall  the  OS

 

Just my experience with them

[thekeemo]

just

 

wow

 

Since you are adamant people do not understand your point, would you care to explain your reasoning?

I probably should

The rich part is because the average Joe internationally not just in richer countries like the us canada and europe can't afford $800 on a phone

The old part is because I phones are user intuitive and theres pretty much no way for them to mess it up

By lazy I meant that they don't want to put any effort into making their phone the perfect experience almost like people who buy laptops and prebuilds

And the stupid part is reserved for people like me a few years ago who were blind and wouldn't see any alternatives and refuse to try anything else. Not that I ever got an apple product but that's what I wanted at that time for no reason other than its from apple. (Zte f160 4 lyfe)

[ShadowCaptain]

SNIP

 

Just wondering where I fit in, who has android devices at home that I use but still use an iPhone 6 and iPad as my main devices

 

I just prefer the look, the feel, and mostly the app store, there are better games on the iPhone, and they have never let me down, when I have had very negative experience with android devices, and i have owned many, and have used every version of Android OS

 

the iPhone and iPad experience is consistent, each OS version builds on the older version, its very secure, fast and capable, the app store is fantastic, the devices are better built with very fast processors and GPUs, amazing cameras, there are less downsides to the iPhone (TO ME) then there are positives to android devices

 

The only real downside to iPhones are the price and their restrictive nature, but the downside to android (taken as a whole, there are exceptions within certain phones) are generally more bugs and faults, worse quality cameras a build quality phones, comparability is meh, support is meh , they are cheaper and more customizable

[thekeemo]

Just wondering where I fit in, who has android devices at home that I use but still use an iPhone 6 and iPad as my main devices

I just prefer the look, the feel, and mostly the app store, there are better games on the iPhone, and they have never let me down, when I have had very negative experience with android devices, and i have owned many, and have used every version of Android OS

the iPhone and iPad experience is consistent, each OS version builds on the older version, its very secure, fast and capable, the app store is fantastic, the devices are better built with very fast processors and GPUs, amazing cameras, there are less downsides to the iPhone (TO ME) then there are positives to android devices

The only real downside to iPhones are the price and their restrictive nature, but the downside to android (taken as a whole, there are exceptions within certain phones) are generally more bugs and faults, worse quality cameras a build quality phones, comparability is meh, support is meh , they are cheaper and more customizable

the lazy part. To you consistency is most important well prebuilts are consistent and will generally give you less issues than one you built yourself especially if you pay $800+ for one. That's not a bad thing it just means you have other priorities.

[Tim Drake]

yeah we can talk civilised

 

Just to address some of your points

 

1) iphones break easily, not necessarily, dont forget how common they are with younger people which is probably a significant factor - but of the 5 people in my family, all have used iPhones since the 3gs, we upgrade every 2 years, and nobody has yet to break an iPhone, neither have my friends, except for one who jumped into a swimming pool on holiday and it was in their pocket - and I know one person who has broken the glass, but had it replaced for £45

 

2) your specs may appear that way on paper but in benchmarks the iPhone is one of the most powerful phones on the market, for example the A8 and A8x in the iphone 6 and ipad air 2, are some of the fastest CPUs available 

 

quick example

 

 

GPU - still VERY powerful - especially as we have METAL support in IOS now, a low level API like AMDs Mantle

 

 

 

3) they dont really slow down, just other tech gets faster and the OS gets more demanding, go grab any 2 year old android phone and run 4.4 or lollypop, I bet they slow down too, 

 

I still use an iPad 4, and I play bioshock and xcom on it every day, including editing photos and videos from my DSLR - works just like day 1, and is fully up to date with the OS too

 

4) customizability, I agree, ios is limited, but not necessarily a bad thing, for a start, you can read user manuals and guides, and they are easier to follow, apps generally look and functional similarly, the OS is very stable, I have never had a crash or wipe

 

my nvidia shield has been bricked twice, and often fails to update, my HTC one (m7) corrupted during an OTA update and I had to reinstall  the  OS

 

Just my experience with them

 

Why can't arguments be like this anymore with valid points and evidence.

 

Because of this not resulting in insults I have now learnt new things about Apple and have formed a slightly different opinion on them.

 

Thank you.

[Lukan Spellweaver]

I have had my iPad Air (1st gen) for a little over a year now, the only complaint I have is that the charger broke.

It ended up a mangled mass of rubber and wires, I got a 6 foot replacement for $17 at Walmart, and it works great.

 

I got mine free, I won it in a giveaway. Coolest thing that's ever happened to me.

 

I like the OS fine, but having used Android, I feel a lot is missing. Apple is slowly opening iOS up though, we have cheap widgets on the notifications dropdown and third party keyboards(though most of the time they don't work for me...)

 

I love the App Store, mostly because if an app exists it's on the Apple App Store(which is crazy, cause the developer fee is ridiculous)

 

The cameras on my iPad are awful for any type of real photography, but for quick snaps of events or Skype they're okay.

 

I mostly use it for business and the occasional Minecraft break, I think I've turned it off maybe six times over the course of owning it, and that's mostly for updates. It runs great for long periods of time. Battery life is astonishing!

 

I am surprised at how well mine still works, I'm the latest in a long line of butterfingers, I drop it all the time. It doesn't have a case either, cause I'm not gonna spend $60 on a case for it.

 

And to end this off, this is my first post here, woo!

[thekeemo]

yeah we can talk civilised

Just to address some of your points

3) they dont really slow down, just other tech gets faster and the OS gets more demanding, go grab any 2 year old android phone and run 4.4 or lollypop, I bet they slow down too,

4) customizability, I agree, ios is limited, but not necessarily a bad thing, for a start, you can read user manuals and guides, and they are easier to follow, apps generally look and functional similarly, the OS is very stable, I have never had a crash or wipe

Just my experience with them

first I would like to address the 2 year old tablet thing. I am using a two year old budget trablet that I have upgraded to 4.4 and I do t get slow downs and I don't crash at all which is less than my moms iPad 3 which has crashed multiple times.

Second most of your points are completely in line with what I had to say. You don't want to have to deal with crashes also since when are surprise wipes a thing?

[snes]

still people taking it the wrong way....

They're not taking it the wrong way. You just can't handle the fact that your childish comments backfired.

[PhantomChevron]

in essence its made for

 

1) rich lazy people

2) rich old people

3) rich stupid people

This is going into my profiles good quotes. Cause it is true

[ShadowCaptain]

the lazy part. To you consistency is most important well prebuilts are consistent and will generally give you less issues than one you built yourself especially if you pay $800+ for one. That's not a bad thing it just means you have other priorities.

 

Yeah, im honestly not interested in spending 15 hours finding widgets and customizing stuff, I want to take photos, text, facebook/twitter, youtube and play games, also photo and video editing-  these devices do this well, and function perfectly without any tinkering on my part

 

even my desktop,I went for an AIO because I couldnt be bothered with a loop, and mostly just because of its aesthetics, im not even overclocking my i7, It works fine, and I cant be bothered dealing with spending hours testing it and configuring it for 3% performance boost

 

my car, i prefer buying nice cars, than doing up cheaper older ones, i dont want to have to spend hour in the garage tinkering and fitting parts etc

 

Why can't arguments be like this anymore with valid points and evidence.

 

Because of this not resulting in insults I have now learnt new things about Apple and have formed a slightly different opinion on them.

 

Thank you.

 

I like to have constructive arguments, people get very emotive around tihngs they love (tech) so emotions can over rule people

I am a tech enthusiast, I look at it objectively, does platform A do the task better than Platform B, etc, not just "omg its made by this company fuck them"

 

SNIP

 

Welcome to the Forum , great post

 

You don't want to have to deal with crashes also since when are surprise wipes a thing?

 

not sure, but I have had tons of (admittedly) minor issues with android devices, maybe its me, I dont know, but I have never done anything advanced like rooting or roms and have still had some issues - not a deal breaker, but worth mentioning , my shield has been a pain - 

 

also i will always hate file managing, sure you can do it on android which is great, but its still fucking annoying, I hate it in windows, and i hate it on android

 

This is going into my profiles good quotes. Cause it is true

 

its just not