AMD employee confirms new GPU with HBM and 300W

[marldorthegreat]

NO!

What? AMD and nvidia are going in differant directions. Nvidia is already more effiecient without the manufacturing shrink, 

[monstercameron]

What? AMD and nvidia are going in differant directions. Nvidia is already more effiecient without the manufacturing shrink, 

Who cares about efficiency on $300-500 dGPU!?!?!?! MOAR POWA!

[BobbyG2]

I think it's only fair to see how the new cards perform before judging their efficiency.

[sgloux3470]

Since when did everyone become so power conscious for desktop components?

[Brainless906]

Since when did everyone become so power conscious for desktop components?

 

Right? Especially at the very high end. 

Honestly, as soon as for some reason nVidia ends up being less power efficient, nobody will care again and play it off as no big deal. 

[marldorthegreat]

Who cares about efficiency on $300-500 dGPU!?!?!?! MOAR POWA!

Heat/noise/cost. AMD should skip this year and wait for the 14/16 nm gpus.

[Virgule]

Who cares if a GPU consumes more power ? If this is what it takes to push 4K more effectively, I'll gladly take it. I have a 1000W PSU that only begs for more usage. If you want lower TDP or power consumption, go with a lower card. 

 

This is kind of like if people complained that their home theater system is too loud when cranked at 8. Well, lower it. I like to have the option to have it loud as f***.

[Brainless906]

Who cares if a GPU consumes more power ? If this is what it takes to push 4K more effectively, I'll gladly take it. I have a 1000W PSU that only begs for more usage. If you want lower TDP or power consumption, go with a lower card. 

 

This is kind of like if people complained that their home theater system is too loud when cranked at 8. Well, lower it. I like to have the option to have it loud as f***.

 

You dont seem to understand how the LTT community apparently likes to purchase enthusiast grade high end GPU products. Power consumption > TDP > Noise > Cost > Performance.

 

I've been trying to point out that nobody actually looks for a gpu using that kind of priority ever but I just get called a fanboy and apparently a -Snip- (apparently i shouldnt say type that word?)

[samuel]

You know what? Keep your very efficient 25W TDP GPUs for mobile devices and give me the same arhitechture@ 300W TDP so I can still justify the usage of a classic desktop.

[nj4ck]

Am I the only one who doesn't give a flying f*ck about power consumption? All I care about is how much performance AMD can extract from those Watts. The leaked benchmarks of the 280X hinted a massive amount of performance at a surprisingly low power consumption. If those benchmarks turn out to be accurate, that means the 390X will likely be a complete monster. And if I'm not mistaken, this mysterious 300W card we're talking about would be the 390X, or did I get that wrong?

 

Oh and btw, the current 290/290X's easily pull 300W. I'm certainly not having any cooling issues with mine.

[The_Evenger]

you know what? i don't even care if it's 300w if it's the new GPU king.

 

although my PC will then be taking the place of my microwave.

[Brainless906]

Am I the only one who doesn't give a flying f*ck about power consumption? All I care about is how much performance AMD can extract from those Watts. The leaked benchmarks of the 280X hinted a massive amount of performance. If those benchmarks turn out to be accurate, that means the 390X will likely be a complete monster. And if I'm not mistaken, this mysterious 300W card we're talking about would be the 390X, or did I get that wrong?

 

I think the conclusion we're coming to here is no. 95 percent of the people out there trying to game really couldn't give a damn about power efficiency (within a limit obviously). The 5 percent out there complaining about it are either special use cases or just fanboys complaining because fanboys.

[Virgule]

I think the conclusion we're coming to here is no. 95 percent of the people out there trying to game really couldn't give a damn about power efficiency (within a limit obviously). The 5 percent out there complaining about it are either special use cases or just fanboys complaining because fanboys.

 

 

It's like complaining that the McLaren F1 consumes too much fuel. Pretty absurd because this is not why you buy the car. is it ?

[Brainless906]

It's like complaining that the McLaren F1 consumes too much fuel. Pretty absurd because this is not why you buy the car. is it ?

 

""I want the fastest car I can buy with --,--- dollars!"

"Here's a ford fusion, it doesn't go as fast but its more efficient so its ok."

 

Is exactly what i put in the reply to patrick on page 3

[wpirobotbuilder]

We all new the 300 series was coming at some point. I doubt it will be a 300W card, unless they are making a huge push for more performance. Even if it is, it would cost (maybe) a couple percentage points extra on your power bill if you game a lot.

[DaRk0]

 

""I want the fastest car I can buy with --,--- dollars!"

"Here's a ford fusion, it doesn't go as fast but its more efficient so its ok."

 

Is exactly what i put in the reply to patrick on page 3

 

 

Except fastest car in the world and Ford Fusion are not neck and neck in performance while one being more efficient that other.

[Glenwing]

Since when did everyone become so power conscious for desktop components?

Whatever AMD is losing in suddenly becomes the most important thing ever.

[nj4ck]

I think the conclusion we're coming to here is no. 95 percent of the people out there trying to game really couldn't give a damn about power efficiency (within a limit obviously). The 5 percent out there complaining about it are either special use cases or just fanboys complaining because fanboys.

Especially when you do the math. Assuming this AMD card consumes 100W more than the competing Nvidia card, there's two issues: number one is cooling, though I think that cards like the Sapphire 290X sufficiently prove that a well designed air cooler in a well ventilated case can easily handle a 300W card. 

The second issue is the power bill. So lets say the card consumes 100W more than the Nvidia card and you're running it at full throttle 2 hours a day. Lets also assume you live in the US, where the average cost per kWh is $0.12. So you have 100W x 2h = 0.2 kWh a day, makes $0.024 a day. Makes $0.72 a month, makes $8.76 a year. The difference on your power bill will be less than 9 bucks a year. Not really worth the fuss, if you ask me.

 

 

We all new the 300 series was coming at some point. I doubt it will be a 300W card, unless they are making a huge push for more performance. Even if it is, it would cost (maybe) a couple percentage points extra on your power bill if you game a lot.

[Brainless906]

Except fastest car in the world and Ford Fusion are not neck and neck in performance while one being more efficient that other.

 

Exactly why i said I want the fastest car i can buy with BLANK amount of money, not the fastest car in the world.

 

At the fusions price point there are defiantly faster things, is the point i was getting at.

[Tiber1337]

I was hoping for a leaked release date tho , since I'm on the verge of building a pc.

 

Anyhow, I hope these new cards will come at an acceptable price, I hope the 370x is nearly as good as the 970 at a lower price, 270 usd max.

[Virgule]

Except fastest car in the world and Ford Fusion are not neck and neck in performance while one being more efficient that other.

Good point, however the metaphor should have been : 2 cars being neck in neck in consumption (approx 26W more than the 980), while one being more performing than the other (as speculated).

[Brainless906]

Especially when you do the math. Assuming this AMD card consumes 100W more than the competing Nvidia card, there's two issues: number one is cooling, though I think that cards like the Sapphire 290X sufficiently prove that a well designed air cooler in a well ventilated case can easily handle a 300W card. 

The second issue is the power bill. So lets say the card consumes 100W more than the Nvidia card and you're running it at full throttle 2 hours a day. Lets also assume you live in the US, where the average cost per kWh is $0.12. So you have 100W x 2h = 0.2 kWh a day, makes $0.024 a day. Makes $0.72 a month, makes $8.76 a year. The difference on your power bill will be less than 9 bucks a year. Not really worth the fuss, if you ask me.

 

Exactly, and as discussed earlier a 290x (a 300 watt card) only uses [or makes the entire system use] under full load 20-60 watts more power than the uber efficient 980 (and in fact uses 8-10watts less than the 780 Ti)...so its not even as extreme as they want to make it out to be. 

 

 

Whatever AMD is losing in suddenly becomes the most important thing ever.

 

 

So basically this.

[DaRk0]

Exactly why i said I want the fastest car i can buy with BLANK amount of money, not the fastest car in the world.

 

At the fusions price point there are defiantly faster things, is the point i was getting at.

 

When you look at the Nvidia vs AMD, you can't really say who's faster since they're trading blows in almost every title.

[patrickjp93]

Who cares about efficiency on $300-500 dGPU!?!?!?! MOAR POWA!

You clearly don't pay your own power bills.

[Virgule]

You clearly don't pay your own power bills.

 

 

Especially when you do the math. Assuming this AMD card consumes 100W more than the competing Nvidia card, there's two issues: number one is cooling, though I think that cards like the Sapphire 290X sufficiently prove that a well designed air cooler in a well ventilated case can easily handle a 300W card. 

The second issue is the power bill. So lets say the card consumes 100W more than the Nvidia card and you're running it at full throttle 2 hours a day. Lets also assume you live in the US, where the average cost per kWh is $0.12. So you have 100W x 2h = 0.2 kWh a day, makes $0.024 a day. Makes $0.72 a month, makes $8.76 a year. The difference on your power bill will be less than 9 bucks a year. Not really worth the fuss, if you ask me.