AMD employee confirms new GPU with HBM and 300W

[Brainless906]

300W really isn't that bad. Especially when you consider that the GTX 970 is a 250W GPU and the GTX 980 is a 275W GPU. You guys are way over reacting, that or you actually believe Nvidia's bullshit efficiency claims.

 

 

Source: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-970-maxwell,3941-12.html

 

Shhhhhh, we're here to hate AMD and raise up our godking NVIDIA. We also like to make fun little jokes about AMD heating our homes while pretending that any of us actually give a damn about power consumption.

 

"WE DEMAND 4k CONTENT BUT IT BETTER NOT TAKE MORE THAN 4 WATTS OF POWER TO GET IT"

-Nobody ever, 01/01/never

[s3ns3]

300W really isn't that bad. Especially when you consider that the GTX 970 is a 250W GPU and the GTX 980 is a 275W GPU. You guys are way over reacting, that or you actually believe Nvidia's bullshit efficiency claims.

 

 

Source: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-970-maxwell,3941-12.html

 

yeah right . the gtx 970 is a 145W TDP card . whine about it as much as you want

 

 

also http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_970_STRIX_OC/23.html . average power consumption ~160W

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WOW 300W,thats a dual gpu range TDP. i think the stock card will either have a liquid cooler,or a very very loud stock cooler.again

[MEC-777]

Any GPU with an 8-pin and 6-pin connectors is capable of pulling 300w if need be. Also TDP does not = actual power draw.

[Brainless906]

yeah right . the gtx 970 is a 145W TDP card . whine about it as much as you want

 

also http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_970_STRIX_OC/23.html . average power consumption ~160W

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WOW 300W,thats a dual gpu range TDP. i think the stock card will either have a liquid cooler,or a very very loud stock cooler.again

 

Keep dreaming bud.

 

 

 

 

 

970 at stock is 300. Again, keep on strockin that nvidia shaft man.

 

Next you'll tell me one of the most reputable benchmark sites out there is completely wrong

 

EDIT:

Also i realize this is total system power consumption but as I said in a later comment

 

My point still stand 100 percent. between the 290x and the 980 there is only a ~40-60 watt difference. Not nearly as massive as you'd like everyone to think. Lets all remember that the 290x is a "300 watt" card. Now lets all marvel on the fact that many users are saying they wont buy the 390x even if its silly powerful because of how extremely high the power usage is compared to your mighty 980, who need i remind you only make an entire system consume 40-60 watts less. Plus if the last generation is anything to go by nvidia will have to put out a 980 TI to try to keep up with the 390x which will take more power then its neutered 980 brother. 

[SkilledRebuilds]

Any GPU with an 8-pin and 6-pin connectors is capable of pulling 300w if need be. Also TDP does not = actual power draw.

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This, but also the 300w isn't that big of a deal when your already used to seeing those numbers.... altho more performance per watt is a good thing (compared to the overclocked 290's that I've seen 280w+ with)

My OC on my 290 can hit 295w-300+w at peak too ( seen via GPU-Z sensors)

[Đỗ Đức Huy]

300W really isn't that bad. Especially when you consider that the GTX 970 is a 250W GPU and the GTX 980 is a 275W GPU. You guys are way over reacting, that or you actually believe Nvidia's bullshit efficiency claims.

 

 

Source: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-970-maxwell,3941-12.html

Whine all you want, that's worst case scenario when you apply constant demanding load to the GPU similar to prime95 constantly. The gaming load, the actual real world use case for this card total power consumption is much, much lower. And the 280ish W is an over clock card with massive cooler on it with butt load of fans on it. Fans don't consume power to move air right? /s

All in all everything is rumor until proven other wise but I'll not put this card in my rig any time soon 

[Đỗ Đức Huy]

 

 

Keep dreaming bud.

 

 

 

 

 

970 at stock is 300. Again, keep on strockin that nvidia shaft man.

 

Next you'll tell me one of the most reputable benchmark sites out there is completely wrong

TOTAL SYSTEM POWER CONSUMPTION not 'GPU POWER CONSUMPTION" 

 

 

Our first load power test is our gaming test, with Crysis 3. Because we measure from the wall, this test means we’re seeing GPU power consumption as well as CPU power consumption, which means high performance cards will drive up the system power consumption numbers merely by giving the CPU more work to do.

The eyes sees what it want to see. They have an i7 4960x at 4.2 GHZ with cooling and what ever the heck they stuff in there drawing power from the wall. Check what you post

[ErickS89]

Does anyone have a release date for this? At work and most websites are blocked(very surprised this wasn't).

AMD would have to release this with a 8gb capacity, as Nvidia is rumored to release a 8gb 980.

[MEC-777]

Does anyone have a release date for this? At work and most websites are blocked(very surprised this wasn't).

AMD would have to release this with a 8gb capacity, as Nvidia is rumored to release a 8gb 980.

 

Like the 980, they'll release 4GB versions first and then release 8GB versions a few months later.

 

4GB Vram is still plenty for even 1440p gaming. It's only when you get into 4K and multi-monitor setups that you need more. Also with the latest generation of GPUs from both companies, the high-speed memory interface/architecture is getting faster and more optimized which means even if you start running out of Vram in-game, you'll barely notice any difference.

[patrickjp93]

WCCF and others are now pretty sure the GPU is on the 28nm process again as well, which isn't surprising since TSMC's only 20nm process is low power SOCs.

[ComradeHX]

TOTAL SYSTEM POWER CONSUMPTION not 'GPU POWER CONSUMPTION" 

The eyes sees what it want to see. They have an i7 4960x at 4.2 GHZ with cooling and what ever the heck they stuff in there drawing power from the wall. Check what you post

The power draw from the wall is the one that matters...  Your PSU does not only power your GPU.

[Đỗ Đức Huy]

The power draw from the wall is the one that matters...  Your PSU does not only power your GPU.

But Brainless 906 was arguing about the TDP of the GPU, not the total system power draw (Which would be wildly different depending on what set up you have)

[s3ns3]

 

Keep dreaming bud.

 

 

 

 

 

970 at stock is 300. Again, keep on strockin that nvidia shaft man.

 

Next you'll tell me one of the most reputable benchmark sites out there is completely wrong

 

Dude. thats the power consumption of the entire PC. not GPU only. epic fail

 

also as a side note anandtech do their benchmark with the six core i7 4960X @ 4.2Ghz

[Brainless906]

TOTAL SYSTEM POWER CONSUMPTION not 'GPU POWER CONSUMPTION" 

The eyes sees what it want to see. They have an i7 4960x at 4.2 GHZ with cooling and what ever the heck they stuff in there drawing power from the wall. Check what you post

 

My point still stand 100 percent. between the 290x and the 980 there is only a ~40-60 watt difference. Not nearly as massive as you'd like everyone to think. Lets all remember that the 290x is a "300 watt" card. Now lets all marvel on the fact that many users are saying they wont buy the 390x even if its silly powerful because of how extremely high the power usage is compared to your mighty 980, who need i remind you only make an entire system consume 40-60 watts less. Plus if the last generation is anything to go by nvidia will have to put out a 980 TI to try to keep up with the 390x which will take more power then its neutered 980 brother. 

[Brainless906]

Dude. thats the power consumption of the entire PC. not GPU only. epic fail

 

also as a side note anandtech do their benchmark with the six core i7 4960X @ 4.2Ghz

 

Right, lets all remember how on paper tdp and and announced efficiency made real world use invalid.

[TOMPPIX]

I'm not the one paying the power bill so i don't care if it would draw 400 watts.

[Khvarrioiren]

Dude. thats the power consumption of the entire PC. not GPU only. epic fail

 

also as a side note anandtech do their benchmark with the six core i7 4960X @ 4.2Ghz

 

And what difference does that make? The other components don't start wondrously consuming varying amounts of power on their own. Point still stands. You're knee deep in denial.

[patrickjp93]

My point still stand 100 percent. between the 290x and the 980 there is only a ~40-60 watt difference. Not nearly as massive as you'd like everyone to think. Lets all remember that the 290x is a "300 watt" card. Now lets all marvel on the fact that many users are saying they wont buy the 390x even if its silly powerful because of how extremely high the power usage is compared to your mighty 980, who need i remind you only make an entire system consume 40-60 watts less. Plus if the last generation is anything to go by nvidia will have to put out a 980 TI to try to keep up with the 390x which will take more power then its neutered 980 brother.

That's a 35% difference card to card.

[patrickjp93]

And what difference does that make? The other components don't start wondrously consuming varying amounts of power on their own. Point still stands. You're knee deep in denial.

actually they can depending on drivers. Mind you the maximum fluctuation you'd see is 15W, but your claim is cow chips.

[Brainless906]

That's a 35% difference card to card.

 

Fantastic, its a 35% difference between nvidias newest card and an AMD card that is a year old now. how lovely. Lets go ahead and throw it up against something its made to compete with the 780 TI? oh well look there it in general takes ~8-10 watts less power! Oh my god lets get the nvidia home heating system memes rolling boys! Sure the 980 may be a cool step forward in power efficiency but  as a whole its not that extremely impressive in raw performance with it, at high resolutions, taking less then 10fps over the much older 290x. At 1080p it maxes at a little over 20fps gains over again, the much older, 290x. So yes, fantastic. Its 35% more efficient than a year old card and in theory 35% more efficient then a 390x, but all i'm saying is if we expect even slight efficiency improvements in the 390x it will jump all over the performance of a 980 and that 40-60 watts wont mean a damn thing.

 

edit: could be complete speculation and i could be eating my own words in a few months here, but lets all cut the shit and stop pretending we actually care how much power a gpu takes.

 

edit 2: words  are hard and im not good with them TL:DR we dont know shit about the actual performance of this new 390x "300 watt" card and all im saying is if we gain massive performance over the 980 (and inevitable 980 ti) nobody will friggin care about 40-60 watts

[patrickjp93]

Fantastic, its a 35% difference between nvidias newest card and an AMD card that is a year old now. how lovely. Lets go ahead and throw it up against something its made to compete with the 780 TI? oh well look there it in general takes ~8-10 watts less power! Oh my god lets get the nvidia home heating system memes rolling boys! Sure the 980 may be a cool step forward in power efficiency but  as a whole its not that extremely impressive in raw performance with it, at high resolutions, taking less then 10fps over the much older 290x. At 1080p it maxes at a little over 20fps gains over again, the much older, 290x. So yes, fantastic. Its 35% more efficient than a year old card and in theory 35% more efficient then a 390x, but all i'm saying is if we expect even slight efficiency improvements in the 390x it will jump all over the performance of a 980 and that 40-60 watts wont mean a damn thing.

 

edit: could be complete speculation and i could be eating my own words in a few months here, but lets all cut the shit and stop pretending we actually care how much power a gpu takes.

 

edit 2: words  are hard and im not good with them TL:DR we dont know shit about the actual performance of this new 390x "300 watt" card and all im saying is if we gain massive performance over the 980 (and inevitable 980 ti) nobody will friggin care about 40-60 watts

1) -snip-.

2) the 980 is not a flagship card and was not meant to bet the 290x by much. Everyone knew this at the start.

Do you know what is impressive? The 980 beats the 290x with 25% fewer stream processors and not a big difference in clock rates. Nvidia's performance density has smashed AMD to pieces. The Titan II has 25% fewer stream processors than the 390x, and the 390x is also still on the 28nm process, so it'll be a 35% power difference again. That said, with HBM AMD may very well pull ahead in raw performance against the 384-bit bus Nvidia will use, but at a terrible cost. NVIDIA and Intel have both figured out they need to do more with the same or less before just throwing cores at the problem. AMD still hasn't figured that out, so you can take your criticism of Nvidia and shove it where the sun doesn't shine, because the truth is AMD is too weak to win I the long run, and money is the least of their problems.

[harrynowl]

We don't know how it performs yet...!

 

If it's 300W and performs like a GTX960 is expected to (1280 shaders-- like mobile GPU) then yes raise your pitchforks... but if it's trashing 980 then coolbeans.

 

GTX680 was a small die, just like 980. The big die variant will come and along with that is a high TDP.

[marldorthegreat]

Fuck this shit. This is why nvidia is winning. AMD needs to stop throwing more cores at there gpus and work on effieciency

[Brainless906]

1) -snip-

2) the 980 is not a flagship card and was not meant to bet the 290x by much. Everyone knew this at the start.

Do you know what is impressive? The 980 beats the 290x with 25% fewer stream processors and not a big difference in clock rates. Nvidia's performance density has smashed AMD to pieces. The Titan II has 25% fewer stream processors than the 390x, and the 390x is also still on the 28nm process, so it'll be a 35% power difference again. That said, with HBM AMD may very well pull ahead in raw performance against the 384-bit bus Nvidia will use, but at a terrible cost. NVIDIA and Intel have both figured out they need to do more with the same or less before just throwing cores at the problem. AMD still hasn't figured that out, so you can take your criticism of Nvidia and shove it where the sun doesn't shine, because the truth is AMD is too weak to win I the long run, and money is the least of their problems.

 

1) edit

2) Fantastic, I sincerely don't care and frankly i'd bet neither does most of the gaming community. If the 390x comes out and gives us a 15-30 percent performance boost over the 980 or 980ti you can take your "it does ok with less!" and YOU can shove it where the sun does not shine. BUT IT HAS 25% less stream processors brainless! is it technically impress? yes. But i couldnt give less of a shit. In that case give me 25 percent more stream processors and show me what you can actually do. Performance = King is 100 percent all i'm saying. 

 

I would argue as a whole the entirety of the gaming and enthusiast community (in general, there will always be exceptions) almost exclusively cares about performance. if the 980/980ti runs slower than a 390x then I dont care how much "less" it needed to get there, all i know is its not as fast. 

 

Lol, did a mod edit edit my post D: 

 

 

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[monstercameron]

Fuck this shit. This is why nvidia is winning. AMD needs to stop throwing more cores at there gpus and work on effieciency

NO!