AMD build vs. Intel build help (NOT A WAR)

[TheEpicCanadian]

Alright so i'm buying a gaming rig pretty soon and I've got everything but I need to decide on my processor. I saw all the recent benchmarks of the AMD FX8350 compared to the Intel i5 3570k and they seem to be fairly neck and neck overall. The things i'm going to be doing with this rig are:

-Gaming

-Likely some editing. Nothing too intense, just some Youtube stuff.

-Streaming

Here are the two builds that I put together:

Intel: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/zkOk

AMD: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/zkTU

Budget is $900

Any questions I will do my best to answer. :D

[Dr3nz4r]

Go with Intel since it's cheaper because of the promotion..

[Toby]

You should get a different motherboard for the intel build. A B75 board won't let you OC the 3570k properly. You want a Z75/Z77 one.

I'd also suggest getting this if you're going to spend $44 on RAM. They don't look like much at stock, but you can clock them better than RAM that's double the price.

As far as AMD vs Intel, AMD wins if you're streaming and *possibly* recording (I'm not at all sure about the latter), but otherwise Intel takes it comfortably (despite what Teksyndicates dodgy tests say). Whichever's better for you is down to your preference.

Edit: Also make sure you get the Vertex 4 instead of the Vertex 3 with your AMD build.

[Kruziik_Kel]

The Intel needs the motherboard changed its a B75 board that wont support overclocking so a K series and an aftermarket cooler would be pointless it also requires a BIOS update to support Ivy Bridge and wont support many of its features such as PCIe 3.0

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($216.99 @ Newegg Canada)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX)

Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G41 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Memory Express)

Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ NCIX)

Storage: Samsung 830 Series 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($87.71 @ DirectCanada)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($288.46 @ DirectCanada)

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($48.00 @ NCIX)

Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.88 @ Canada Computers)

Total: $841.01

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-25 11:33 EST-0500)

that is the build you would be better going for better mobo RAM is all you need PSU is all you need and not only more reliable but full modular and the case is also better

[TheEpicCanadian]

You should get a different motherboard for the intel build. A B75 board won't let you OC the 3570k properly. You want a Z75/Z77 one.

I'd also suggest getting this if you're going to spend $44 on RAM. They don't look like much at stock, but you can clock them better than RAM that's double the price.

As far as AMD vs Intel, AMD wins if you're streaming and *possibly* recording (I'm not at all sure about the latter), but otherwise Intel takes it comfortably (despite what Teksyndicates dodgy tests say). Whichever's better for you is down to your preference.

Edit: Also make sure you get the Vertex 4 instead of the Vertex 3 with your AMD build.

What makes teksyndicates tests dodgy?

[InfinityHardware]

Intel is probably the better choice for what you need it for. Intel's architecture is just better and you don't need the 8 cores.

[Toby]

You should get a different motherboard for the intel build. A B75 board won't let you OC the 3570k properly. You want a Z75/Z77 one.

I'd also suggest getting this if you're going to spend $44 on RAM. They don't look like much at stock, but you can clock them better than RAM that's double the price.

As far as AMD vs Intel, AMD wins if you're streaming and *possibly* recording (I'm not at all sure about the latter), but otherwise Intel takes it comfortably (despite what Teksyndicates dodgy tests say). Whichever's better for you is down to your preference.

Edit: Also make sure you get the Vertex 4 instead of the Vertex 3 with your AMD build.

Well, if AMD had come out around the same as the 3570k, that would be reasonable. If they'd come out slightly better than the 3570k, that'd be surprising, but believable. However, getting twice the FPS is a huge anomaly at that "level" of CPU. It's like when scientists thought neutrinos were travelling faster than the speed of light...That's not just a discovery, that shit needs explaining.

For anyone who's into tech to get such results, then just shrug and go "dat's just wut da tests say" blows my mind.

[TheEpicCanadian]

The Intel needs the motherboard changed its a B75 board that wont support overclocking so a K series and an aftermarket cooler would be pointless it also requires a BIOS update to support Ivy Bridge and wont support many of its features such as PCIe 3.0

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($216.99 @ Newegg Canada)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX)

Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G41 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Memory Express)

Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ NCIX)

Storage: Samsung 830 Series 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($87.71 @ DirectCanada)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($288.46 @ DirectCanada)

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($48.00 @ NCIX)

Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.88 @ Canada Computers)

Total: $841.01

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-25 11:33 EST-0500)

that is the build you would be better going for better mobo RAM is all you need PSU is all you need and not only more reliable but full modular and the case is also better

Please keep the Case and SSD the same.

[TheEpicCanadian]

The Intel needs the motherboard changed its a B75 board that wont support overclocking so a K series and an aftermarket cooler would be pointless it also requires a BIOS update to support Ivy Bridge and wont support many of its features such as PCIe 3.0

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($216.99 @ Newegg Canada)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX)

Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G41 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Memory Express)

Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ NCIX)

Storage: Samsung 830 Series 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($87.71 @ DirectCanada)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($288.46 @ DirectCanada)

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($48.00 @ NCIX)

Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.88 @ Canada Computers)

Total: $841.01

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-25 11:33 EST-0500)

that is the build you would be better going for better mobo RAM is all you need PSU is all you need and not only more reliable but full modular and the case is also better

Also I would like to keep the PSU above 600w

[Guest]

Also I would like to keep the PSU above 600w

Why? You'll be lucky to draw 450w on that system? A 5-600 would be fine.

As Kruziik mentioned, if you plan to overclock you're very limited to what you can do with a B75 chipset, I don't even think you can adjust the multiplier. You may want to have a look at the Asus P8Z77 boards - they give good performance for their price range.

Having said that, I would dig a little more around the benchmarks because as Linus said in the livestream - the 8350 would most likely pull ahead of the 3570K if say you're gaming + streaming + Skype call for the stream + recording.

[TheEpicCanadian]

Here is the current build with the z77 motherboard and 600w PSU

CPUIntel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core$216.99

CPU CoolerCooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing$28.99

MotherboardMSI Z77A-G41 ATX LGA1155$79.99

MemoryMushkin Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333$44.99

StorageOCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" SSD$107.99

Video CardGigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB$289.99

CaseCorsair 200R ATX Mid Tower$49.99

Power SupplyCorsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V$89.25

Total: $908.18

[Kruziik_Kel]

The Intel needs the motherboard changed its a B75 board that wont support overclocking so a K series and an aftermarket cooler would be pointless it also requires a BIOS update to support Ivy Bridge and wont support many of its features such as PCIe 3.0

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($216.99 @ Newegg Canada)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX)

Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G41 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Memory Express)

Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ NCIX)

Storage: Samsung 830 Series 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($87.71 @ DirectCanada)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($288.46 @ DirectCanada)

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($48.00 @ NCIX)

Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.88 @ Canada Computers)

Total: $841.01

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-25 11:33 EST-0500)

that is the build you would be better going for better mobo RAM is all you need PSU is all you need and not only more reliable but full modular and the case is also better

You wont draw near 500w on that system unless you intend on crossfire (PSU is also fully modular) also the 200r is a very budget case the HAF 912 has many features that bring it ahead (and its cheaper) however the 200r is a decent enough case

[TRTJoshua]

Personally recommend the 8350 build and I'm kinda an intel fan boy but its show that the 8350 is kinda a beast when it comes down to multitasking and using Xsplit in that way it beats intel

[TheEpicCanadian]

Here's an AMD build to compare to:

[TABLE=class: box-table-a featured_partlist, width: 0]

[TR=bgcolor: transparent]

[TD=class: heading]

CPU[/TD]

[TD]

AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core[/TD]

[TD=class: price]

$189.95[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=bgcolor: transparent]

[TD=class: heading]

CPU Cooler[/TD]

[TD]

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing[/TD]

[TD=class: price]

$28.99[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=bgcolor: transparent]

[TD=class: heading]

Motherboard[/TD]

[TD]

Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+[/TD]

[TD=class: price]

$94.99[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=bgcolor: transparent]

[TD=class: heading]

Memory[/TD]

[TD]

Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600[/TD]

[TD=class: price]

$41.99[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=bgcolor: transparent]

[TD=class: heading]

Storage[/TD]

[TD]

OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" SSD[/TD]

[TD=class: price]

$107.99[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=bgcolor: transparent]

[TD=class: heading]

Video Card[/TD]

[TD]

Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB[/TD]

[TD=class: price]

$289.99[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=bgcolor: transparent]

[TD=class: heading]

Case[/TD]

[TD]

Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower[/TD]

[TD=class: price]

$49.99[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=bgcolor: transparent]

[TD=class: heading]

Power Supply[/TD]

[TD]

Corsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V[/TD]

[TD=class: price]

$89.25[/TD]

[/TR]

[/TABLE]

[RailfanS]

Both builds look pretty decent, but it really depends on what you want to do with it. If it's just gaming the 3570K still has a slight edge in most games. But if you do any multitasking at all you'll benefit from the 8350's 8 cores (and it's perfectly fine for gaming to).