Harrynowl's ULTIMATE CPU Showdown! (WIP)

[harrynowl]

Hmm Well i got 3 LGA 775 CPUs with me

 

I got one Pentium 4 3.0GHz, Core 2 Duo E6420 2.13GHz and the Core 2 Duo E7200

 

both Core 2 Duo CPUs are tested working. WIll try the Pentium 4 soon

 

I manage to find the 775 mobo that i can get which supports DDR3

 

my plan was to run the 2.53GHz CPU with 8GB DDR3 and get a cheap 1TB HDD in a new case for better cable management and HDD mounting

You can get G41-Combo boards from MSI that support DDR3 & DDR2

[harrynowl]

Is that pentium 4 by any chance a 630? Because that's the model this computer came with.

It's either a 630 (Prescott) or 631 (Cedar Mill), I'm using a 631 in my testing

[dragoon20005]

Is that pentium 4 by any chance a 630? Because that's the model this computer came with.

not sure the exact model

 

the marking says it a 3GHz with 1MB cache and 800MHz FSB

[Dabombinable]

It's either a 630 (Prescott) or 631 (Cedar Mill), I'm using a 631 in my testing

Damn, so it will suffer from the 'Sudden Prescott Death Syndrome', if pushed just that little bit too hard.

[dragoon20005]

You can get G41-Combo boards from MSI that support DDR3 & DDR2

I saw the Gigabyte model which seem to be a better board

 

 

 

Is that pentium 4 by any chance a 630? Because that's the model this computer came with.

this is the P4 in question

 

http://ark.intel.com/products/27508/Intel-Pentium-4-Processor-supporting-HT-Technology-3_00E-GHz-1M-Cache-800-MHz-FSB

[Dabombinable]

not sure the exact model

 

the marking says it a 3GHz with 1MB cache and 800MHz FSB

It is one, just had a look at mine and its got the same specs.

[harrynowl]

not sure the exact model

 

the marking says it a 3GHz with 1MB cache and 800MHz FSB

Hmm... both Prescott and Cedar Mill have 2MB of L2. It may be a Celeron D?

Damn, so it will suffer from the 'Sudden Prescott Death Syndrome', if pushed just that little bit too hard.

Intel's 90nm Process at its best.

[Dabombinable]

Hmm... both Prescott and Cedar Mill have 2MB of L2. It may be a Celeron D?

Intel's 90nm Process at its best.

Lol, yep. I heard today though that someone was able to push theirs to over 20GHz stable on LN2 (well, it posted, then fried)

[dragoon20005]

It is one, just had a look at mine and its got the same specs.

I cant be sure if it still working

 

I took it out from a old HP desktop and just store the CPU in a plastic box with other of my junk

 

 

Hmm... both Prescott and Cedar Mill have 2MB of L2. It may be a Celeron D?

Intel's 90nm Process at its best.

http://www.gigabyte.sg/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3505#sp

 

this seem to be a better board and has the dual BIOS for those emergency

[harrynowl]

Lol, yep. I heard today though that someone was able to push theirs to over 20GHz stable on LN2 (well, it posted, then fried)

20GHz? I doubt it pretty sure electrics/light can't operate fast enough for that kind of switching frequency.

 

At least not on Silicone, it isn't that good a conductor.

[DeViLzzz]

5.6 GHz on air?  Are you saying OP that you got that with an i5 2600K?  How was this done and how long could you run it at 5.6 GHz for?  WTH?

[harrynowl]

5.6 GHz on air?  Are you saying OP that you got that with an i5 2600K?  How was this done and how long could you run it at 5.6 GHz for?  WTH?

5600K, the A8. And no it wasn't stable, merely an epeen run.

 

http://hwbot.org/submission/2607867_harrynowl_cpu_frequency_a8_5600k_5598.69_mhz

http://valid.canardpc.com/18zdy1

 

My i7 2600K record was 5.3GHz

 

[dragoon20005]

@harrynowl

 

i will test the P4 and see if it works or not

 

I will pack the 2 or 3 CPUs once you give the green light

 

my desktop is more of a backup so not really needed at the moment

[dragoon20005]

Yea i got the p4 in my hand its 3.0ghz 1mb cache 800mhz fsb 04a rev sl7pu china.

the Core 2 duo e7200 2.53ghz 3mb cache 1066mhz fsb. Slavn malaysia.

Dont know what that means. .

[harrynowl]

Yea i got the p4 in my hand its 3.0ghz 1mb cache 800mhz fsb 04a rev sl7pu china.

the Core 2 duo e7200 2.53ghz 3mb cache 1066mhz fsb. Slavn malaysia.

Dont know what that means. .

SLAVN = Stepping code. In this case it's M0

Malaysia is the country the silicone was fabricated in;)

[Dabombinable]

20GHz? I doubt it pretty sure electrics/light can't operate fast enough for that kind of switching frequency.

 

At least not on Silicone, it isn't that good a conductor.

I might have gotten trolled, but they are able to hit 8GHz. and that is quite surprising considering how old they are, and how much heat they put out (I'd recommend LN2 for anything over 4GHz-to be safe with those monstrosities).

[harrynowl]

I might have gotten trolled, but they are able to hit 8GHz. and that is quite surprising considering how old they are, and how much heat they put out (I'd recommend LN2 for anything over 4GHz-to be safe with those monstrosities).

Prescott/Cedar Mills 31 stage pipeline was there so it could clock high this is how we got from 1ghz in 2001 (or 2000) to 3ghz+ in 2003

 

long pipeline = lots of time waste, cache misses = oops and HT was made as it was just slow.

[Dabombinable]

Prescott/Cedar Mills 31 stage pipeline was there so it could clock high this is how we got from 1ghz in 2001 (or 2000) to 3ghz+ in 2003

 

long pipeline = lots of time waste, cache misses = oops and HT was made as it was just slow.

That sounds a bit like AMDs choice with FX cpus, maybe that's why they get bagged for being slow and bottleneck creators.

[Faa]

What kinda settings are you planning to use for the gaming benchmarks? Would have loved to see 720p/low settings etc with a bunch of GPU headroom left

[harrynowl]

What kinda settings are you planning to use for the gaming benchmarks? Would have loved to see 720p/low settings etc with a bunch of GPU headroom left

if I have time ill do that on battlefield perhaps

[harrynowl]

That sounds a bit like AMDs choice with FX cpus, maybe that's why they get bagged for being slow and bottleneck creators.

yep, amd did exactly what intel did. chased clock speed and not architectural improvements.

[Dabombinable]

What kinda settings are you planning to use for the gaming benchmarks? Would have loved to see 720p/low settings etc with a bunch of GPU headroom left

 

if I have time ill do that on battlefield perhaps

I might be able to do some testing with my P4 630 and Core 2 Duo E8500 @ stock and overclocked with battlefield 4 and crysis 3, I could even use my Xeon, but a 160MHz OC is the most my mobo can handle without overheating.

[Faa]

if I have time ill do that on battlefield perhaps

1080p/highest settings, we both know the end result already.

[Dabombinable]

yep, amd did exactly what intel did. chased clock speed and not architectural improvements.

Man they are idiots, they should have know the problems they would have, especially after the CPUs that replaced the Pentium 4s were a lot better in pretty much every way.

[Dabombinable]

1080p/highest settings, we both know the end result already.

Want me to test that? Because I can say right now that monitoring with MSI afterburner showed a 49-51% bottleneck with a core 2 duo at 4GHz and Crysis 3 as the game.