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There isn't really anything that would match the height in portrait mode as well as match the pixel density well. 

 

Do you know anything about VESA mounts? Like with a mount can I make the heights match on both monitors.

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Do you know anything about VESA mounts? Like with a mount can I make the heights match on both monitors.

Heights can be adjusted but can't be matched if the sides of the displays don't match. 

..unless you mean something else

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Heights can be adjusted but can't be matched if the sides of the displays don't match. 

..unless you mean something else

I put the monitor into portrait mode then the length becomes the height I shuold be able to match that with the LG with a mount right.

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Heights can be adjusted but can't be matched if the sides of the displays don't match. 

..unless you mean something else

 

Take a look at this page and go to the rig on page 36 that guy is using the LG with 17 inch monitors on each side in portrait mode. I don't particularly like those dells but what do you think of that resolution and size?

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I put the monitor into portrait mode then the length becomes the height I shuold be able to match that with the LG with a mount right.

What do you mean by 'match'? 

Take a look at this page and go to the rig on page 36 that guy is using the LG with 17 inch monitors on each side in portrait mode. I don't particularly like those dells but what do you think of that resolution and size?

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You're going to need monitors that have sides that match to begin with and there aren't that many options for that. Height adjustable vesa stands wouldn't make a difference since vesa mounts are centered to begin with.

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You're going to need monitors that have sides that match to begin with and there aren't that many options for that. Height adjustable vesa stands wouldn't make a difference since vesa mounts are centered to begin with.

 

arent all 17 inch monitors the same dimensions?

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arent all 17 inch monitors the same dimensions?

There aren't that many options that don't suck*

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There aren't that many options that don't suck*

 

Haha got ya. Well then I guess my mission is to find one that matches. And that is why I was askig about the mounts because if the mounts are independtly adustable I can adjust the portrait mode monitor to match

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Haha got ya. Well then I guess my mission is to find one that matches. And that is why I was askig about the mounts because if the mounts are independtly adustable I can adjust the portrait mode monitor to match

Like I already mentioned, there's little need for that due to vesa mounts being centered at the back of the monitors. 

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Like I already mentioned, there's little need for that due to vesa mounts being centered at the back of the monitors. 

 

I guess I am not understanding can't I i find a mount that has adjustable arms?

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Finding side monitors to work in portrait mode is pretty tough.  You need to have monitors that have a width that matches the main monitor's height, and identical pixel density to really work smoothly in Windows (meaning in effect, the horizontal resolution of the side monitors needs to be the same as the vertical resolution of the main monitor).  Dell used to make some 4:3 1600x1200 ones that were sized exactly to complement their 30" 2560x1600 models, but that was a long time ago.  

 

I'll run some numbers for you:

 

With a 29" 2560x1080 (21:9) you'd need an ~18.8" 4:3 monitor, with a resolution of 1080x810 for matching pixel density.  AFAIK this does not exist.  For a matching 16:10 monitor, you would need a ~21.3" 1080x675 display, which AFAIK doesn't exist either.  In fact I don't know of any monitor with a 1080 horizontal resolution, so this idea would be very difficult with a 2560x1080 monitor.

With a 34" 3440x1440 (21:9) you'd need a ~21.2" 1440x1080 (4:3) monitor, a ~24.8" 1440x900 (16:10) monitor, or a ~26.8" 1440x810 (16:9) monitor.

 

I can run numbers for you with 27" 2560x1440 or 28" 3840x2160 for you if you like, but you really run into problems with 16:9, because you'll never find a monitor with a 1440 or 2160 horizontal resolutions (the only exception being 1440x900 which is almost only found in laptops).  This was a MUCH more feasible idea back in the 16:10 days, because you had resolutions like 2560x1600 which at 30" could be complemented very well with 20" 1600x1200 4:3 monitors in portrait mode.  If 16:10 had lasted into the 4K age we're at now, 4096x2560 could have been complemented by 2560x1600 or 2560x1920 in portrait.  But 16:9 resolutions don't really lend themselves to matching with other resolutions like this because of their weird vertical resolutions.

 

To address something from a few posts ago, no not all 17" monitors have the same dimensions.  17" is not the width of the monitor, it is a diagonal measurement, so the actual dimensions will change with the width-to-height ratio, which will change with the resolution.  A 17" 4:3 monitor will be 13.6" x 10.2", while a 17" 16:9 monitor is 14.8" x 8.3".

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Finding side monitors to work in portrait mode is pretty tough.  You need to have monitors that have a width that matches the main monitor's height, and identical pixel density to really work smoothly in Windows (meaning in effect, the horizontal resolution of the side monitors needs to be the same as the vertical resolution of the main monitor).  Dell used to make some 4:3 1600x1200 ones that were sized exactly to complement their 30" 2560x1600 models, but that was a long time ago.  

 

I'll run some numbers for you:

 

With a 29" 2560x1080 (21:9) you'd need an ~18.8" 4:3 monitor, with a resolution of 1080x810 for matching pixel density.  AFAIK this does not exist.  For a matching 16:10 monitor, you would need a ~21.3" 1080x675 display, which AFAIK doesn't exist either.  In fact I don't know of any monitor with a 1080 horizontal resolution, so this idea would be very difficult with a 2560x1080 monitor.

With a 34" 3440x1440 (21:9) you'd need a ~21.2" 1440x1080 (4:3) monitor, a ~24.8" 1440x900 (16:10) monitor, or a ~26.8" 1440x810 (16:9) monitor.

 

I can run numbers for you with 27" 2560x1440 or 28" 3840x2160 for you if you like, but you really run into problems with 16:9, because you'll never find a monitor with a 1440 or 2160 horizontal resolutions (the only exception being 1440x900 which is almost only found in laptops).  This was a MUCH more feasible idea back in the 16:10 days, because you had resolutions like 2560x1600 which at 30" could be complemented very well with 20" 1600x1200 4:3 monitors in portrait mode.  If 16:10 had lasted into the 4K age we're at now, 4096x2560 could have been complemented by 2560x1600 or 2560x1920 in portrait.  But 16:9 resolutions don't really lend themselves to matching with other resolutions like this because of their weird vertical resolutions.

 

To address something from a few posts ago, no not all 17" monitors have the same dimensions.  17" is not the width of the monitor, it is a diagonal measurement, so the actual dimensions will change with the width-to-height ratio, which will change with the resolution.  A 17" 4:3 monitor will be 13.6" x 10.2", while a 17" 16:9 monitor is 14.8" x 8.3".

 

Great post this really clears somethings up for me when I get home in a few hours I will reply back leaving work now. Thank you this really helps

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I guess I am not understanding can't I i find a mount that has adjustable arms?

Most mounts come with adjustable arms. What I meant was that you wouldn't need individual height adjustments because vesa mounts are centered on monitors. 

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Finding side monitors to work in portrait mode is pretty tough.  You need to have monitors that have a width that matches the main monitor's height, and identical pixel density to really work smoothly in Windows (meaning in effect, the horizontal resolution of the side monitors needs to be the same as the vertical resolution of the main monitor).  Dell used to make some 4:3 1600x1200 ones that were sized exactly to complement their 30" 2560x1600 models, but that was a long time ago.  

 

I'll run some numbers for you:

 

With a 29" 2560x1080 (21:9) you'd need an ~18.8" 4:3 monitor, with a resolution of 1080x810 for matching pixel density.  AFAIK this does not exist.  For a matching 16:10 monitor, you would need a ~21.3" 1080x675 display, which AFAIK doesn't exist either.  In fact I don't know of any monitor with a 1080 horizontal resolution, so this idea would be very difficult with a 2560x1080 monitor.

With a 34" 3440x1440 (21:9) you'd need a ~21.2" 1440x1080 (4:3) monitor, a ~24.8" 1440x900 (16:10) monitor, or a ~26.8" 1440x810 (16:9) monitor.

 

I can run numbers for you with 27" 2560x1440 or 28" 3840x2160 for you if you like, but you really run into problems with 16:9, because you'll never find a monitor with a 1440 or 2160 horizontal resolutions (the only exception being 1440x900 which is almost only found in laptops).  This was a MUCH more feasible idea back in the 16:10 days, because you had resolutions like 2560x1600 which at 30" could be complemented very well with 20" 1600x1200 4:3 monitors in portrait mode.  If 16:10 had lasted into the 4K age we're at now, 4096x2560 could have been complemented by 2560x1600 or 2560x1920 in portrait.  But 16:9 resolutions don't really lend themselves to matching with other resolutions like this because of their weird vertical resolutions.

 

To address something from a few posts ago, no not all 17" monitors have the same dimensions.  17" is not the width of the monitor, it is a diagonal measurement, so the actual dimensions will change with the width-to-height ratio, which will change with the resolution.  A 17" 4:3 monitor will be 13.6" x 10.2", while a 17" 16:9 monitor is 14.8" x 8.3".

 

Ok now that I am at home and I took a look at monitors I see what you are saying. Would you mind running hte numbers on 27 inch 2560x1440 please?

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Ok now that I am at home and I took a look at monitors I see what you are saying. Would you mind running hte numbers on 27 inch 2560x1440 please?

 

Sure.  Also I will redo the other ones since I brilliantly forgot to switch the resolutions for portrait mode... I thought those results were a little large...

 

27.0" 2560x1440 (Dell U2715H, etc.):

 - 16.95" 5:4 (1440x1152)

 - 16.54" 4:3 (1440x1080)

 - 15.61" 16:10 (1440x900)

 - 15.19" 16:9 (1440x810)

 

29.8" 2560x1600 (Dell U3014):

 - 20.23" 5:4 (1600x1280)

 - 19.74" 4:3 (1600x1200)

 - 18.62" 16:10 (1600x1000)

 - 18.12" 16:9 (1600x900)

 

31.5" 3840x2160 (Dell UP3214Q, ASUS PQ321Q, etc.)

 - 19.78" 5:4 (2160x1728)

 - 19.30" 4:3 (2160x1620)

 - 18.21" 16:10 (2160x1350)

 - 17.72" 16:9 (2160x1215)

 

29.0" 2560x1080 (LG 29UM65, LG 29EA93-P, etc.):

 - 14.44" 5:4 (1080x864)

 - 14.09" 4:3 (1080x810)

 - 13.29" 16:10 (1080x675)

 - 12.93" 16:9 (1080x607.5) (lol)

 

33.7" 3440x1440 (LG 34UM95-P):

 - 16.81" 5:4 (1440x1152)

 - 16.41" 4:3 (1440x1080)

 - 15.48" 16:10 (1440x900)

 - 15.06" 16:9 (1440x810)

 

Most of these don't exist, only a few of them might and of those few it's going to be very difficult to find a nice IPS panel that will match up in picture quality to the main monitor.

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Sure.  Also I will redo the other ones since I brilliantly forgot to switch the resolutions for portrait mode... I thought those results were a little large...

 

27.0" 2560x1440 (Dell U2715H, etc.):

 - 16.95" 5:4 (1440x1152)

 - 16.54" 4:3 (1440x1080)

 - 15.61" 16:10 (1440x900)

 - 15.19" 16:9 (1440x810)

 

29.8" 2560x1600 (Dell U3014):

 - 20.23" 5:4 (1600x1280)

 - 19.74" 4:3 (1600x1200)

 - 18.62" 16:10 (1600x1000)

 - 18.12" 16:9 (1600x900)

 

31.5" 3840x2160 (Dell UP3214Q, ASUS PQ321Q, etc.)

 - 19.78" 5:4 (2160x1728)

 - 19.30" 4:3 (2160x1620)

 - 18.21" 16:10 (2160x1350)

 - 17.72" 16:9 (2160x1215)

 

29.0" 2560x1080 (LG 29UM65, LG 29EA93-P, etc.):

 - 14.44" 5:4 (1080x864)

 - 14.09" 4:3 (1080x810)

 - 13.29" 16:10 (1080x675)

 - 12.93" 16:9 (1080x607.5) (lol)

 

33.7" 3440x1440 (LG 34UM95-P):

 - 16.81" 5:4 (1440x1152)

 - 16.41" 4:3 (1440x1080)

 - 15.48" 16:10 (1440x900)

 - 15.06" 16:9 (1440x810)

 

Most of these don't exist, only a few of them might and of those few it's going to be very difficult to find a nice IPS panel that will match up in picture quality to the main monitor.

 

I appreciate the help on the math. Man it seems that I am not going to be able to pull this off. I really like the PLP look so I am kinda bummed out. I guess I have to live with two monitors in a super long landscape look. Any suggestions on sizes or mounts to use? Again I am looking for a larger resolution for my main gaming monitor and the second monitor is used for all other tasks while gaming.

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I appreciate the help on the math. Man it seems that I am not going to be able to pull this off. I really like the PLP look so I am kinda bummed out. I guess I have to live with two monitors in a super long landscape look. Any suggestions on sizes or mounts to use? Again I am looking for a larger resolution for my main gaming monitor and the second monitor is used for all other tasks while gaming.

 

Dual Dell U2715H maybe? Or U2715H + U2415 or U2414H if you don't care about matching sizes between the main and secondary displays.  They all have fully adjustable stands so you can adjust the positioning however you prefer.

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Dual Dell U2715H maybe? Or U2715H + U2415 or U2414H if you don't care about matching sizes between the main and secondary displays.  They all have fully adjustable stands so you can adjust the positioning however you prefer.

 

Everyone is suggesting Dell monitors any reason them over ASUS and ACER? I am looking at specs and you can find monitors with similiar specs from other companies. Is the color and picture quality better on the dells?

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Everyone is suggesting Dell monitors any reason them over ASUS and ACER? I am looking at specs and you can find monitors with similiar specs from other companies. Is the color and picture quality better on the dells?

 

In general Dell has excellent build quality and support.  They also are superior in some ways beyond what you'll find on the spec sheet.  An example is DC brightness control as opposed to PWM, which eliminates any possibility of backlight flickering.  They use fast internal circuitry that has very low latency/input lag in a lot of their monitors, and their newer anti-glare coating is lighter and less grainy than most I've seen on other monitors.

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In general Dell has excellent build quality and support.  They also are superior in some ways beyond what you'll find on the spec sheet.  An example is DC brightness control as opposed to PWM, which eliminates any possibility of backlight flickering.  They use fast internal circuitry that has very low latency/input lag in a lot of their monitors, and their newer anti-glare coating is lighter and less grainy than most I've seen on other monitors.

 

How do you feel about this ASUS its $150 cheaper than the Dell I am just wondering if the 150 bucks is with it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G1XA5131

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The PB278Q is a pretty decent monitor. For $150 less it might be worth it.  Depends on how much money that is to you really.

 

After looking at the Dell U2715H I really like the thin bezels and with a monitor that large in screen size it would be nice have not have it feel like its baring down on me. Now if I have my Xbox, WiiU, or Playstation Connected to this monitor through HDMI will the whole screen fill in 1920x1080 or will it have black bars on teh sides? Since its the same Aspect Ratio I am hoping there are no black bars. I am going to add a second 970 to my build and when I do can I use the display port output on both cards? or when you SLI does the second card's connectors not work? My thought is basically buying Two Dell monitors and a second 970 and use Display port connections one from each card to each monitor and having my game consoles plugged in with HDMI so then I have the ultimate nerd station for myself when it comes to games and streaming

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It is the same aspect ratio so it will fill the whole screen.  I believe you can only use the outputs from the primary card, the other cards' outputs will be disabled.  However the Dell monitors do have daisy-chaining capability, so you can run two monitors from a single DP output on the graphics card by plugging the first monitor into the graphics card and the second monitor into the first monitor.

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