Nvidia says Xbox One and PlayStation 4 are great news for gaming PCs

[Artorias]

Yeah it's definitely a good thing for graphics and optimization. The problem is that last gen consoles had similar power to gaming PCs at the time, this time they don't and their life cycle is expected to be longer so in ~10 years time, when the next consoles are about to be released, the difference will be >20x from the highest end GPU and people would be able to play games at console graphics on maindtream laptop gpus, and that's before considering cloud gaming.

10 years lifetime. Oh, man. That's a long time before we see another improvement in gaming graphics for the PC. Considering that the PS3/XBox did have a 7yr. lifetime.

[Fonil]

10 years lifetime. Oh, man. That's a long time before we see another improvement in gaming graphics for the PC. Considering that the PS3/XBox did have a 7yr. lifetime.

 

I honestly believe this is the last "gaming console" if its life cycle is more than 4 years old. 

[Xorbot]

I honestly believe this is the last "gaming console" if its life cycle is more than 4 years old. 

 

Let me "second" this post.  Let's not forget that it's likely that tablets and phones will be as powerful as PS4 and Xbox One at some point before the end of the next console life cycle.

 

The new "console" in the next 5 years:  come home, toss your phone on the table, pick up a wireless gamepad, and play wirelessly from the phone to the TV.

[Fonil]

Let me "second" this post.  Let's not forget that it's likely that tablets and phones will be as powerful as PS4 and Xbox One at some point before the end of the next console life cycle.

 

The new "console" in the next 5 years:  come home, toss your phone on the table, pick up a wireless gamepad, and play wirelessly from the phone to the TV.

 

Not to say any of the big names are doomed or anything like that, however I do see a 1-2 box living room future which I suppose is what Microsoft was trying to do, but Microsoft got in the way of themselves. 

[Nicktrance]

I honestly believe this is the last "gaming console" if its life cycle is more than 4 years old. 

 

If nVidia has their way it will be mobile phones/tablets which make consoles obsolete...

[silencerbob]

You're forgetting how much money can be made by hardware manufacturers dragging their feet.

[Ngrungebb91]

I honestly believe this is the last "gaming console" if its life cycle is more than 4 years old. 

 

I third this... You know how Linus preaches and warns us about cloud gaming? In about 15 years... This will happen, it's going to suck majorly but.. eh before this turns into another topic I'll stop there.

[EricX2]

One of the things Nvidia is trying to get across is that the Floor (not the ceiling) level of power needed has just risen dramatically. (I would venture to say that the One and 4 have more horsepower than a fair amount of the computers people play games on.)  On top of that for the time being as a developer on x86 why would you not want to try and push to consoles if development time isn't greatly effected. 

 

Shown here by this nifty little graph

 

 

 

Look how even they were in 2005, so the PC was LOWER than the console at the time of its release and the gap grew. It's already 2.5x higher at release now, that is HUGE. It will likely be 20x higher in 8 years.

[Nort]

Where do you guys suppose the new consoles sit vs. a discrete graphics card? Around the power of an HD 7770?

[Fonil]

660TI 7870/7850

[Godlygamer23]

I third this... You know how Linus preaches and warns us about cloud gaming? In about 15 years... This will happen, it's going to suck majorly but.. eh before this turns into another topic I'll stop there.

If the whole world revolves around cloud, privacy gets destroyed for one. Not only that, but what about that itty bitty chance of our Internet connection going out? We're done for until it goes back up. Even in 15 years.

[Genecidalic]

I hope they up the player count for Battlefield 4 for pc and bring consoles up to 64. But I still want PC to have more players than console. 

That wont happen too many people think pc's are too complicated or a waste of money while they have an xbox and a playstion with 5$ subscriptions to both. I will never understand the human race

[Godlygamer23]

That wont happen too many people think pc's are too complicated or a waste of money while they have an xbox and a playstion with 5$ subscriptions to both. I will never understand the human race

Though with Geforce Experience, the "complication" is starting to change. Also with GPU Boost 2.0, the average joe doesn't have to worry about overclocking, as the card will OC itself until it hits a certain temperature/noise threshold.

[Genecidalic]

Though with Geforce Experience, the "complication" is starting to change. Also with GPU Boost 2.0, the average joe doesn't have to worry about overclocking, as the card will OC itself until it hits a certain temperature/noise threshold.

Yes but i think people will still throw away money at a monthly subscription and complain that computers are too expensive. I see it everyday

[kuddlesworth9419]

If Planetside 2 is coming to the PS4 there is either going to be a dramatically lower player count or there is going to be some crazy optimization going on. I hope it;s the optimization though so PC gets better performance as well. I would really like to be able to play the game at 60FPS in a huge battle with other 300 people attacking an outpost or a Bio Lab. Because at the moment the game will run that sort of situation at 25-35FPS on any system as it is CPU bound. 

[Fonil]

If Planetside 2 is coming to the PS4 there is either going to be a dramatically lower player count or there is going to be some crazy optimization going on. I hope it;s the optimization though so PC gets better performance as well. I would really like to be able to play the game at 60FPS in a huge battle with other 300 people attacking an outpost or a Bio Lab. Because at the moment the game will run that sort of situation at 25-35FPS on any system as it is CPU bound. 

  

MOAR COREZ!!!

[Godlygamer23]

MOAR COREZ!!!

More overall power. Not necessarily cores.

[iAsuno]

better optimization = win

[Fonil]

More overall power. Not necessarily cores.

 

 

All caps plus bad spelling = sarcasm, 

 

their optimization is shit and has been since day one. 

[Tigerbomb8]

I'm confused. You're making it sound like in two years, consoles will do better than PC.

He meant that in 2 years pc will be so much better than consoles and will will end up with crap games like we have now...

[Fonil]

He meant that in 2 years pc will be so much better than consoles and will will end up with crap games like we have now...

 

I dunno we are about to hit another generation gap where if game makers want to make absolutely the best looking games possible they will want it on 4k, and consoles are damn sure not going to be pushing that. Previous generation consoles fell into a reasonably safe new 1080p market.

[joelthezombie15]

I always thought that new consoles are good because they push graphics performance forward. i want to see a game the Only a titan can handle and that uses it to its full potential, imagine what that would look like.

[Fonil]

I always thought that new consoles are good because they push graphics performance forward. i want to see a game the Only a titan can handle and that uses it to its full potential, imagine what that would look like.

 

That' s years out. 

[JAKEBAB]

Is everyone forgetting both consoles have cloud computing so when we do need power for things like 4k they just throw more processing power threw the cloud and problem solved.

[Fonil]

Is everyone forgetting both consoles have cloud computing so when we do need power for things like 4k they just throw more processing power threw the cloud and problem solved.

 

Wrong, 

1) even if somehow that was possible the lag would be so bad you wouldn't want to play it . 

2) Their 4k potential is hardware limited on even the most basic levels. For instance, as far as we know it will include HDMI 1.4 (HDMI 1.4 is limited to 4k at 30hz)