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Samsung 840/840 EVO Firmware Upgrade - Release

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I'll probably go for the USB stick without OS approach on my 840 EVOs.  The PC and netbook are due for a format anyway.  Excellent excuse to wipe all my SSDs and start fresh

 

 

 

Question though : Is it only the 2.5" EVO that's affected or every 840 EVO regardless of form factor?  I have an mSATA EVO in one of my laptops as well.

 

EDIT : nevermind, looks like the mSATA needs it too.

yes, just did it on the msata 250gb one

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I noticed a pretty significant increase in boot up times. There was a noticeable lag before the task bar and icons appeared on my system, but now it's instant.

 

10/10, would update again

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While EVO is faster when you are comparing new SSDs you have to have in mind that SSDs speed decrease over time and with Crucial MLC Flash it wont decrease as much as with Samsung TLC Flash used in EVO. So overtime Crucial SSD will be faster.

 

that takes years and i mean literally years according to the massive ssd test that was done recently (some one help me out with the degradation test that went on for 100s of terabytes) by the time it makes a difference you will probably have upgraded several times over

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While EVO is faster when you are comparing new SSDs you have to have in mind that SSDs speed decrease over time and with Crucial MLC Flash it wont decrease as much as with Samsung TLC Flash used in EVO. So overtime Crucial SSD will be faster.

Yeah by that time it won't even matter

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While EVO is faster when you are comparing new SSDs you have to have in mind that SSDs speed decrease over time and with Crucial MLC Flash it wont decrease as much as with Samsung TLC Flash used in EVO. So overtime Crucial SSD will be faster.

That actually doesn't happen all the difference really between the two is endurance.

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Is this for the 840 pro aswell or just the standard 840 and 840 evo?

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it says there might be a chance of data loss. So I cant do it....

If you're not backing up your data, you have bigger problems to worry about.

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While EVO is faster when you are comparing new SSDs you have to have in mind that SSDs speed decrease over time and with Crucial MLC Flash it wont decrease as much as with Samsung TLC Flash used in EVO. So overtime Crucial SSD will be faster.

I believe Samsung have now written close to 8 petabytes onto a 128GB 840 Evo, orders of magnitude mire than most will write in a systems lifetime, with only minor performance loss

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Is this for the 840 pro aswell or just the standard 840 and 840 evo?

it is for evo for sure. not sure about normal 840

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Ok, so since I am in RAID 0, only way to go about doing this is to image my drives onto another hhd, install windows on one SSD alone, do the tool to each SSD, then re RAID them and move the image back...?

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So is the issue when the drive is off? I have my 840 in my ps3 and i havent touched it in a week

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So only normal 840's and evos have this problem and firmware update? My 840 Pro is safe?

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Is this for the 840 pro aswell or just the standard 840 and 840 evo?

This fix is only for the 840 EVO 2.5" and 840 EVO mSATA.

 

My drive took about 30 minutes to update.

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From what I am reading is that the 840 and 840 EVI has this issue.

What I don't know, is if the firmware upgrade is for both SSD of only the EVO series.

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Ok, so since I am in RAID 0, only way to go about doing this is to image my drives onto another hhd, install windows on one SSD alone, do the tool to each SSD, then re RAID them and move the image back...?

can u actually clone a drive to two others in a RAID 0 mode, when the source HDD is only one drive?

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Finally. Been waiting for long enough

well its not realy needed, booting is like 0,25secs faster

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can u actually clone a drive to two others in a RAID 0 mode, when the source HDD is only one drive?

Yea. Because once they are in raid they only show up as a single drive to software cloning tools. I have done it before, just didn't really want to deal with this :/.

I guess I could back up the drives incase something goes to shit, pop them both in another PC and do the update. As long as it doesn't change data (which is shouldn't, they should be able to pop back in the raid array. Guess I will find out. I just really don't want to reformat as I just friking did last week!!!

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Yea. Because once they are in raid they only show up as a single drive to software cloning tools. I have done it before, just didn't really want to deal with this :/.

I guess I could back up the drives incase something goes to shit, pop them both in another PC and do the update. As long as it doesn't change data (which is shouldn't, they should be able to pop back in the raid array. Guess I will find out. I just really don't want to reformat as I just friking did last week!!!

but what if you connect the two ssds in RAID 0 to another pc with a hdd that you want to be cloned on the ssds?

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It will be fine. You can move raid arrays from computer to computer. Just to make it simple and not have weird driver issues I might just use a spare hard drive and put it in my main rig and just do it all on there. Not sure yet. Need to think of the least intrusive way.

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It will be fine. You can move raid arrays from computer to computer. Just to make it simple and not have weird driver issues I might just use a spare hard drive and put it in my main rig and just do it all on there. Not sure yet. Need to think of the least intrusive way.

in my opinion its not worth, since the ssds are already so fast, can u tell me your 4k random transfers after update please

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Problem is since I just formatted I don't have a baseline. If I do a hhd test now it will look the exact same after I do the update. Only been about a week since I formatted so hasn't been enough time for the drives to slow down. And I did notice a difference after I reformatted. Read speeds definitely increased, and programs that were on the PC for months opened faster. So this update does make a difference.

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Problem is since I just formatted I don't have a baseline. If I do a hhd test now it will look the exact same after I do the update. Only been about a week since I formatted so hasn't been enough time for the drives to slow down. And I did notice a difference after I reformatted. Read speeds definitely increased, and programs that were on the PC for months opened faster. So this update does make a difference.

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