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The funny thing here is MS and Sony are so incompetent, that they don't realize a 30 FPS locked standard means I will play my 1440p games at 4 k...and my PC is far from high end as far as cost.

 

I can play Shadows of Mordor perfectly fine at console FPS at 4k with a moderate OC on my GPU. I have gone back and forth playing at a 1440p/4k downsample on my R9 290 and I have just ended up playing 1440p. Smooth gameplay matters more to me then a better picture.  

 

Might want to think about this console companies. Do you want 4k screenshots Vs 1080p and 900p screenshots? Cus R9 290's are under 300 bucks now...

 

Maybe you should leave PC the hell alone and let us have our 1440p and 60 fps. In two years when most enthusiasts are sitting on 4k and 60 FPS, you can do the world a favor and abandon these crappy x86 PC consoles. Be software companies, and let Nintendo have the console market for little kids and big kids (still like my Wii U). Offer a stream service to play all 2 of your exclusives worth a damn on the PC at 720/900p and a back catalog  from last gen and before for people too stupid to use a emulator. Morons pay to play online now with these consoles, and they would probably pay for that as well. 

 

Then you can advertise that you can't tell 900p from 4k...

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I knew this is the truth. Ubisoft should just sacrifice some profit if they really really want to do a very very good game. Judging from previous Ubisoft games, I don't see a reason why I will not give them my money should they really need it.

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Here is the best way we the PC gamers can maybe help this situation. DO NOT BUY ANY UBI GAMES FROM NOW ON!!!!! Make them lose this market and they may change their tune. There are plenty of other games out there to play that are just as good and just as fun.

 

This just simply pisses me off (and others) that the shit consoles are pressuring PC content, that is absolute bullshit. We spent the money for a premium gaming experience and now their forcing us to play a triple A title that plays like garbage.

 

It would be nice if we can voice our concerns directly to the people in charge, but the dollar sign makes their mind go blank and greed kicks in.

 

Plus I thought the idea behind the X86 platform was to code the games better for the consoles and PC and games would look and play better and less headache for the devs? WTF happen?

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Here is the best way we the PC gamers can maybe help this situation. DO NOT BUY ANY UBI GAMES FROM NOW ON!!!!! Make them lose this market and they may change their tune. There are plenty of other games out there to play that are just as good and just as fun.

 

This just simply pisses me off (and others) that the shit consoles are pressuring PC content, that is absolute bullshit. We spent the money for a premium gaming experience and now their forcing us to play a triple A title that plays like garbage.

 

It would be nice if we can voice our concerns directly to the people in charge, but the dollar sign makes their mind go blank and greed kicks in.

 

Plus I thought the idea behind the X86 platform was to code the games better for the consoles and PC and games would look and play better and less headache for the devs? WTF happen?

 

I blame MS more than Ubisoft. They are screwing over their own customers on their own OS, which pretty much makes them the ultimate a-holes.

 

It isn't like Ubisoft is the only one that has done this with a 30 FPS locked port. In fact Ubisoft has not locked anything at 30 yet that I know of. I may not be interested in any of their games and am not buying them, but look at who has the most money to throw around and who is doing the pressuring.

 

That would be the same company who makes the OS we game on, and keeps/delays multiplats off of Windows, and withholds DirectX patches from majority market share from their own customers. 

 

I find it hilarious that so much hate is directed at Ubisoft and MS gets a free pass. Sony has at least given us Planetside 2, Everquest, Star Wars Galaxies, H1Z1 on the way. What does MS give us? Forza is the only thing they have home grown and we don't get it. Project Spark? Locked behind Windows 8.1.Who knows what the hell they are going to do with the next Minecraft. Block it off everything but Windows 10? If they even give it to us, and it will probably be delayed...

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I'm already sick to death of Uplay after having it open every damn time I launch a freaking Steam game... so you know what? Fuck Ubisoft, they can suck it.

 

Then they wonder why people go and pirate their games. Ubi is like the EA of PC gaming.

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What a great way to make people not buy your games on PC. Kudos to Microsoft too! "We'll support PC gaming!" my ass.

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Who gives a shit about what ubisoft devs says. They are not the only game developer in the world. If you hate what the fuck they are doing, stop supporting them. There are still developers that offers what, us, gamers want. The last game I played was shadow of mordor, and it was fantastic. FPS can be set to whatever the fuck your PC can handle. And so does the resolution and other graphical settings.

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I have a feeling that Nadella would do something about this, he's not Steve Ballmer. From the way he's been firing inefficient middle management, he won't be afraid to canabalize MS"s console market when it helps to strengthen PC's. Let's all write to him and let him hear the feelings of hardcore Windows supporters!!

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Who gives a shit about what ubisoft devs says. They are not the only game developer in the world. If you hate what the fuck they are doing, stop supporting them. There are still developers that offers what, us, gamers want. The last game I played was shadow of mordor, and it was fantastic. FPS can be set to whatever the fuck your PC can handle. And so does the resolution and other graphical settings.

Shadow of Morder has a 100fps cap lol. Dunn matter to me though because I hacked it :)

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Shadow of Morder has a 100fps cap lol. Dunn matter to me though because I hacked it :)

Meh, the mainstream is still 60fps. And i think only 2/5 users use 144hz monitors :P

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Shadow of Morder has a 100fps cap lol. Dunn matter to me though because I hacked it :)

 

How did you get it run more than 100fps?

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How did you get it run more than 100fps?

 do you know how to use cheat engine? if so then set your max fps to 30 in the game and search for 30 as a float then change the cap to 60 and search for that in cheat engine then set it to no cap then search for 100 in cheat engine, eventually you will be left with 1 address then change that to whatever you want your max fps to be. You will have to do this everytime you start the game unless the address is static and always remains the same.

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I wonder if behavior like this from Microsoft is the reason things like Valve trying to move Steam to Linux and AMD trying to make Mantle are happening? Move everything away from Microsoft and make a better system for everyone

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Its seem like console want start WAR with us?

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So in short, their reasons are bullshit for limiting development. Then again, I can't help but feel that this is to be expected from a company so dependent on consoles as Ubisoft is. 

 

While I won't throw out conspiracies about console makers (Though it sounds very tasty right now >:) ), limiting your game to the lowest denominator does you no favors with people who can easily and should easily be able to boost up the game because of their stronger hardware. It doesn't help at all, and it certainly doesn't push development standards forward.

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Therefore, I will bite the hand Ubisoft and do not buy any games from them anymore. This also applies to the EA. Bethesda and a few other publishers have not yet compromised, but everything in front of us unfortunately... Always remains a download trial version from torrent :P and it hurts them the most :P

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We should do like some did with the corsair logo. Start a petition and send it to ubisoft with 50000 signature. I think if they see this they might take the time to think about it. Here we are just a group of people talking and not doing anything. I have a 5000$ PC and my favorite game is Assassin's creed. I PAID to have a machine capable of handling everything I throw at it and I want my favorite game to be as high quality as it can get. You were saying they shouldnt bite the hand that feed them. We the clients are this hand. We just need to slap them in the face so they understand: WE CARE about our games.

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I'm pretty sure it won't kill Ubisoft if they became a PC only dev. After a few days or weeks console makers would come BEGGING for them to make console games again. Ubisoft, EA, Activision, etc are by the looks of it the reasons why a lot of people buy consoles. They could try to strong arm console makers but they might need to conspire with the other major devs.

I guess your right if the devs really took a stand, but traditionally the thing about the console market is that the console maker holds a lot of negotiating power over developers. Since they are the sole gatekeeper of that platform.

 

On PC it's different because it's an open platform. Devs have the options of GOG, Steam, Origin, uPlay or however else they decide to distribute and promote their game. Nobody can hold you to ransom.

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If Sony and MS are trying to make PC games run at 30fps, then... omg the facepalm, I hate them more than I've ever done. I change my mind, they don't even deserve me buying their console used!!

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Understandable that console makers want to force devs for games to run at 30fps for parity, and to give PC less advantage

 

BUT, if Ubisoft had any integrity, they would tell the consoles makers to shove it up their ass, and if Sony/MS want to lose a shit ton of sales because the latest Ubisoft games are not on their platform, than that is their loss

 

I bet if Ubisoft put their foot down and said "look we will release our game on console for you, we can even do exclusive DLC or  costumes or something, but we still intend to release on PC with full fidelity and frame rate" then they would be allowed as it still makes tons of money for the console makers

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I just do not get it. By the logic of "who ever lobbies us more, gets more" to counter the console manufacturer's, we PC gamers should enlist AMD/Nvidia to "bribe", oh I meant "lobby" the game developers to release the best possible graphic demending game on PC? That will boost the sales of graphic cards. Even better, let's then get the 1080p+ monitor manufaturer's on board, if they want to push 4k but game devs code games to barely have decent textures at 900p!

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Ok, here's my beef with this; PC has ALWAYS had better graphics - for a very long time now, at least. 

 

Consoles should compete against CONSOLES. Not PC. 

 

Xbox One - you have the weaker console hardware, therefore you lose the graphics battle. PS4 - you have the better hardware, therefore you win the graphics battle (among consoles). That should be the end of it.

 

But no. They have to downgrade every other platform, just because they gimped on their own hardware!? NO! That is just complete BS and complete disregard for gamers on every platform. It takes away our ability to chose how we want to run games and forces a lesser experience on all of us.

 

I've said this before and I'll say it again; I don't hate the consoles, themselves, but the marketing (marketing teams). They are holding back progression and devs like Ubisoft unfortunately care more about making money than growing a backbone. 

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Sh!t needs to sell like its gold, they need/must downgrade (on the same level) pc graphics so console/games sell more.

Marketing at its best sell more and don't give a sh!t about the quality.

 

Please odnt fuck up The Division. ffs dont!!!

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"Are you aware of the negative response to the recent decision to lock your games (like AC:Unity) into 30 frames per second? If so, what do you think about that?" u/TwinDragonsOfChaos

 

I asked this question at the end of the presentation, everyone laughed. The Game Architect said that on consoles, and for this type of game, they have to chose between graphical fidelity and smoothness. He implied that MS is making them lock the framerate on PC too. Then, he smiled, said "But our eyes can't see past 24 fps anyway" and winked at me.

 

"..but our eyes can't see past 24 FPS anyway" and winked at me.

What a douchey response. THAT guy needs a swift punch in the face.

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