Microsoft’s Windows 10 has permission to watch your every move

[TetraSky]

THey're seeing what the user experience is during beta in order to improve their product?! WHAAAAATT?!

Yes, because them obtaining everything I type on my keyboard, including passwords, bank account and what not, will totally help improve the product, right?

Everything else is fine for a beta, the keylogger part, isn't. Sorry if I don't trust them to not be hacked and everything leaking onto the internet.

[RH00D]

Yes, because them obtaining everything I type on my keyboard, including passwords, bank account and what not, will totally help improve the product, right?

Everything else is fine for a beta, the keylogger part, isn't. Sorry if I don't trust them to not be hacked and everything leaking onto the internet.

You're not supposed to be doing private banking or any other sensitive stuff on a technical preview designed to be used for testing purposes.

 

They clearly state in big text "Join us as we build Windows 10" and "If you're a PC expert or an IT pro, come on a journey with us and be part of creating the best Windows yet."

 

Yes, part of making Windows 10 better includes doing testing that involves heavy data collection so you can analyze it to make sense out of what you need to do to improve the product. If you're not OK with that then don't be part of the testing.

[cesrai]

I mean didn't anyone read the agreement?

[TetraSky]

You're not supposed to be doing private banking or any other sensitive stuff on a technical preview designed to be used for testing purposes.

 

They clearly state in big text "Join us as we build Windows 10" and "If you're a PC expert or an IT pro, come on a journey with us and be part of creating the best Windows yet."

 

Yes, part of making Windows 10 better includes doing testing that involves heavy data collection so you can analyze it to make sense out of what you need to do to improve the product. If you're not OK with that then don't be part of the testing.

Fair enough, but how would it be testing if you didn't use it the same way you normally would?

If all they wanted is a bunch of monkey looking through the new features, they could've done that internally. Many people test it as their daily driver, installing on it on their primary machine and using that. Why would you switch computer everytime you need to check your bank account or login to facebook or something? Not many people would do that and testing it through a Virtual Machine doesn't give the best result for Microsoft either, as it's using emulated hardware and not your actual hardware so if you don't have any issue in the VM, you might have some if it was installed directly on the PC. Testing is more than just screwing around on it to see the new features and be done with it, it's to actually use the thing as you would use it.

There is NO reason for a Keylogger to exist in a Public test build. It will not provide any useful information other than what you are writting. Useful information includes what software or feature you use and how often you use it. Not how often you clicked the letter A, or any other keys on your keyboard. If it was just to record things like keyboard shortcut, to see how many people actually used that, it would be acceptable, but a full fledged keylogger? No.

But hey, that's just my opinion, if you feel differently, you have the right to.

 

 

 

I mean didn't anyone read the agreement?

"Yes, I've read and agree to the term of services" is the biggest lie on the internet, didn't you know? Unless you're a lawyer, you wouldn't understand half of it, not to mention they make it so long that most people would give up reading or speed read through it, skipping a lot of information.

[Sharp_3yE]

THIS IS OOOOOLLLLDDDD NEWS! I already knew. This is a good thing not a bad thing. They need to know how its working.

[jaggysnake57]

Is anyone seriously using W10 preview as their daily driver?

 

 

One isn't forced t use it, it is one's own prerogative.

 

has one been for elocution lessons?

 

By definition, Alpha testing is internal, Beta testing is external (regular users, developers, etc). This is a beta. Regardless of how "finished" a product is. A product isn't finished upon launch either. 

 

by todays standards alpha is what you release on steam to make some money and beta is the new name for demo/were to tight to hire testers

 

 

 

 

oh and the horse is dead can we stop beating it now

[flibberdipper]

It's a beta, what do you expect?

[AlexGoesHigh]

"Yes, I've read and agree to the term of services" is the biggest lie on the internet, didn't you know? Unless you're a lawyer, you wouldn't understand half of it, not to mention they make it so long that most people would give up reading or speed read through it, skipping a lot of information.

 

2.      Privacy and Protection of Personal Information

You consent to the Program Services automatically collecting data from the devices that you use with the Program Services (“Program Device”). This may include information about any aspect of the Program Services that Microsoft instruments for data collection, including for example, device performance, user interface interactions, and feature and application usage, including third party applications. The collected data will be sent to Microsoft and used by Microsoft and its partners to improve current and future products and services. You cannot turn off these data collection features in the Program Services. If you associate your Microsoft account with your Program Device, you consent to the Program Services automatically using data associated with your Microsoft account and services tied to your Microsoft account to improve Microsoft and partner products and services.

You agree that Microsoft may contact you about your use of the Program Services and to provide you with additional information, which may be personalized, about the Program Services and other Microsoft and partner products and services. This contact may be by email, SMS, instant message, web chat, phone, an offer or advertisement in the user interface, or by other reasonable means. Microsoft will not contact you in a way that allows others to identify you. We may ask you to participate in chat sessions where others can identify you, but your participation will be optional.

See the Privacy Statement (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=400912) for additional information regarding data collection and use.

https://insider.windows.com/Home/TermsOfUse

i'm not a lawyer and i understand that perfectly, yes legal documents are long and boring to read but its a requirement, because they have to be as detailed as possible to not have loop hole where someone could take advantage of, and if you don't agree simply don't use the service there's always alternatives out there

[IdortMasterRace]

Windows XP, Vista, 7, 8, and every other version of Windows - and OSX - already do this.

 

Microsoft doesn't respect you, your privacy, or your human rights. The sooner people stop using it and switch to something like Linux, the better.

[IdortMasterRace]

Ok, time to stop using it and go back to Windows 8.1...

 

Yeah, because they aren't monitoring you on Windows 8.1 either... oh wait.

[Socky]

Makes sense for the preview, wouldn't make sense for the retail.

[AlexGoesHigh]

Windows XP, Vista, 7, 8, and every other version of Windows - and OSX - already do this.

Microsoft doesn't respect you, your privacy, or your human rights. The sooner people stop using it and switch to something like Linux, the better.

The majority of OSX is open source so you can check if Apple does that, and I'm assuming they don't otherwise it would have been expose already and I'm sure companies would be furious if Microsoft tracked any sort of data inside the os on retail release since they would effectively be stealing corporate data, that a good enough reason for them to be dead already

If your going to come up whit conspiracy theories at least make them have some sort of sense, also Linux still has a long way to go to overtake Windows

[Techhog]

The majority of OSX is open source so you can check if Apple does that, and I'm assuming they don't otherwise it would have been expose already and I'm sure companies would be furious if Microsoft tracked any sort of data inside the os on retail release since they would effectively be stealing corporate data, that a good enough reason for them to be dead already

If your going to come up whit conspiracy theories at least make them have some sort of sense, also Linux still has a long way to go to overtake Windows

Being open source and using open source code aren't the same thing.

[IdortMasterRace]

conspiracy theories

 

You're joking, right?

 

Let me guess, you think the mass invasion and surveillance of our privacy by the government is just a conspiracy theory too, right?

[AlexGoesHigh]

You're joking, right?

Let me guess, you think the mass invasion and surveillance of our privacy by the government is just a conspiracy theory too, right?

No because there proof of it, my point was is that there's no proof of Ms or apple placing Keyloggers inside their os's

Unless you know any

[AlexGoesHigh]

No because there proof of it, my point was is that there's no proof of Ms or apple placing Keyloggers inside their retail release os's

Unless you know any

fml I hate the mobile site...

[Gould-Digger]

As long as they don't show the girlfriend my activity, then everything will be okay.

[Trik'Stari]

No big deal if they want to see nothing but this

[Vaub]

Weren't Windows 7 and 8 doing the same thing during their beta?

 

I mean... why would they release a beta if it's not to gather usage reports; I certainly wouldn't trust manual user feedback   (which probably 1% will fill)

Always load your OS betas on a VM folks and don't use it for work. I would be surprised if a key-logger was on all the time though.

[zacRupnow]

You should be using this as your primary OS with sensitive data in the first place...

*shouldn't

[Techhog]

*shouldn't

I'm good at typing

[Khvarrioiren]

I fully understand that it monitors your activities within the OS, but does that ''search history'' also entail browser history?

[Norman_the_Owl]

I fully understand that it monitors your activities within the OS, but does that ''search history'' also entail browser history?

Probably.

Keep in mind they think you're 18 if you're in the beta so it's not like they're going to try and bust you for porn

[Nomelas]

Isn't the purpose of a pre-release (any pre-release) to gather this kind of information to fix bugs/compatibility issues and such? this isn't news

[A.D.A.M]

Wasn't this common knowledge it's a technical preview...ffs