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I'm building a new rig (my first) this summer for gaming and doing some overclocking. I was going to buy Haswell until I saw how bad it's thermal performance was. There are a lot of 3770k's going cheap on ebay at the moment, even new ones. What should I do? Are the new motherboards too good to miss?

 

1. Get a new Haswell 4770k for £300 (and possibly delid it which I feel uncomfortable with) 

2. Get a N.I.B Ivy Bridge 3770K for £210 and sacrifice having the newer 1150 mobo features?


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3770k and a decent Z77 as they're cheap as balls right now.


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If you can get a 3770k and mobo for cheap then go that way. I know that they are close to the same price in the uk atm.

I would not go second hand on any components personally, just due to lack of warranty.


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Will I be missing out on any good features for the new Z87 motherboards?


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If you can get a 3770k and mobo for cheap then go that way. I know that they are close to the same price in the uk atm.

I would not go second hand on any components personally, just due to lack of warranty.

I know, there are some used 3770k's for as low as £175, but I thought it would probably be better to go for a new £210 one. there's a £90 price difference.


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Go for haswell if you have the money but z77 is very good all so you wont be missing out on that many features

Really? I wont be able to overclock it past 4.6Ghz which is really a lot lower than I normally like to OC for others.


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4.6 ghz are you using a custom watercooling loop

For a 4.6Ghz overclock, I know for a fact that an AIO watercooling loop is enough for the Sandy and Ivy Bridge i7's. for Haswell, I'd feel comfortable with a 4.4ghz OC on an AIO set up.


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where the hell is a 3770k 210$?!

This is in the U.K unfortunately. £210 (pounds) not dollars. 


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I'm I the same position as you. I'd still go with haswell. I didn't think the temps were that different to be honest. I may be wrong but ill take a couple hundred MHz lower OC to be on the latest chipset.

I wouldn't upgrade from Ivy Bridge or maybe even Sandy Bridge, I'm coming from a mid range first gen i7 OEM computer.


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This is in the U.K unfortunately. £210 (pounds) not dollars. 

oh damn...lol its still like what 275usd:? :/ heh 

 

I'm I the same position as you. I'd still go with haswell. I didn't think the temps were that different to be honest. I may be wrong but ill take a couple hundred MHz lower OC to be on the latest chipset.

I wouldn't upgrade from Ivy Bridge or maybe even Sandy Bridge, I'm coming from a mid range first gen i7 OEM computer.

 

but why would it have higher temps since it has a lower tdp? Oo less surface area to dissipate the heat or sumn? ? irdk lol...

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Take it as a reminder that Haswell will apparently be better for OC

Anyone correct if I'm wrong


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Budget is more of a concern for me unfortunately. Here are my options:

 

1. Go for Ivy Bridge 3770k and a Maximus V Extreme for £435 

2. Get the Haswell 4770k and a mid-range MSI GD65 Gaming Ed for £450

 

So, Newer processor with mid-range Motherboard or last gen processor with highest-end motherboard?


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oh damn...lol its still like what 275usd:? :/ heh 

 

 

but why would it have higher temps since it has a lower tdp? Oo less surface area to dissipate the heat or sumn? ? irdk lol...

I didn't know haswell has higher temps to be honest.


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Budget is more of a concern for me unfortunately. Here are my options:

1. Go for Ivy Bridge 3770k and a Maximus V Extreme for £435

2. Get the Haswell 4770k and a mid-range MSI GD65 Gaming Ed for £450

So, Newer processor with mid-range Motherboard or last gen processor with highest-end motherboard?

Well you should go with number 1 because as far as I know there's not a lot of difference between 3rd and 4th generation and 3770k is still quite powerful


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Check out bit-tech's review: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/06/01/intel-core-i7-4770k-cpu-review/8

 

"From here, though, the temperatures increased rapidly and we reached our limit of 4.7GHz using 1.257V and a scorching temperature of 98°C, and that's using a Corsair H100i, which we know to offer the best cooling short of a custom water-cooling kit."


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oh damn...lol its still like what 275usd:? :/ heh 

...

Try more like 320usd at the current exchange rate.


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I know, there are some used 3770k's for as low as £175, but I thought it would probably be better to go for a new £210 one. there's a £90 price difference.

if you can get a new one for that price then its defo the better deal imo. The performance delta is minimal. At that price i may sell my 3570k and get a 3770k.


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if you can get a new one for that price then its defo the better deal imo. The performance delta is minimal. At that price i may sell my 3570k and get a 3770k.

That's the price of a New in box i7 3770k and a new in box Maximus V Extreme.


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My bad, a new retail 4770k is £275, not £300.


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