Is AMD Dual Graphics worth it?

[Speedbird]

Hi

 

I will be building a budget gaming rig with the AMD A10-7850K APU and I'm wondering, if I want to upgrade it later, should I buy an R7 250 and use dual graphics or buy an R9 270X and not use the iGPU? This PC is mostly just for TF2, but I sometimes might play a little Far Cry 3 or Battlefield 4. Thanks.

[Levent]

nop 270X will overclock more and beat that with a long margin

[harrynowl]

270x

[CowsGoRoar]

nop

 

FX6300 (if too much, 4300) and a R9 270(X).

[Speedbird]

nop

 

FX6300 (if too much, 4300) and a R9 270(X).

I'll be using the 7850K anyway, because I will only buy a separate card if I want it.

 

Anyway, thanks guys. If I want a separate graphics card for that PC, I will get the 270X.

[Guest]

Not when it comes to two low to mid range cards.

[CowsGoRoar]

I'll be using the 7850K anyway, because I will only buy a separate card if I want it.

 

Anyway, thanks guys. If I want a separate graphics card for that PC, I will get the 270X.

So you're wasting 47% of your CPU.

 

You'll regret it later.

[dizmo]

So you're wasting 47% of your CPU.

 

You'll regret it later.

Sorry, that's no true at all. The 7850 is actually a little better than the 4300.

[Speedbird]

So you're wasting 47% of your CPU.

 

You'll regret it later.

So now you're saying that I shouldn't get the R9?

 

I need a good iGPU.

[CowsGoRoar]

Sorry, that's no true at all. The 7850 is actually a little better than the 4300.

FX6300, but if it costs too much, which it doesn't, it costs $50 less. (I thought the APU would cost more.) So your argument is invalid. The 6300 is much better when OP gets a R9 270X.

 

 

So now you're saying that I shouldn't get the R9?

 

I need a good iGPU.

No problem. I'm not gonna stop you.

[dizmo]

FX6300, but if it costs too much, which it doesn't, it costs $50 less. (I thought the APU would cost more.) So your argument is invalid. The 6300 is much better when OP gets a R9 270X.

 

 

No problem. I'm not gonna stop you.

Think of it this way. With an APU, he doesn't have to buy a video card. Which is why he's getting it. The question was in regards to future upgrades. So, it's actually a perfectly valid argument.

Your suggestion, is in fact, pointless. He's also already stated he's getting the APU regardless.

Reading comprehension son. Improve it.

[Speedbird]

Think of it this way. With an APU, he doesn't have to buy a video card. Which is why he's getting it. The question was in regards to future upgrades. So, it's actually a perfectly valid argument.

Your suggestion, is in fact, pointless. He's also already stated he's getting the APU regardless.

Reading comprehension son. Improve it.

Could also be that English isn't my native language.

[dizmo]

Could also be that English isn't my native language.

None of that post was directed at you.

[CowsGoRoar]

Think of it this way. With an APU, he doesn't have to buy a video card. Which is why he's getting it. The question was in regards to future upgrades. So, it's actually a perfectly valid argument.

Your suggestion, is in fact, pointless. He's also already stated he's getting the APU regardless.

Reading comprehension son. Improve it.

Your argument was that the 7850 was more powerful than the 4300.

 

I corrected myself as the FX6300 is much cheaper than the APU. I wasn't even against the fact that he needed the iGPU, I thought he was planning a new build for the APU or a dedicated CPU + GPU.

 

Reading comprehension dad. Learn it.

[dizmo]

Your argument was that the 7850 was more powerful than the 4300.

 

I corrected myself as the FX6300 is much cheaper than the APU. I wasn't even against the fact that he needed the iGPU, I thought he was planning a new build for the APU or a dedicated CPU + GPU.

 

Reading comprehension dad. Learn it.

Which it is.

So, thanks for the apology.

[i_build_nanosuits]

I'll be using the 7850K anyway, because I will only buy a separate card if I want it.

 

Anyway, thanks guys. If I want a separate graphics card for that PC, I will get the 270X.

Get the athlon 750K or 760K instead along with a radeon R7 265 or R9 270, that should cost about the same as the A10 APU and will outperform it pretty bad...the 760K is the same on the CPU side of things as the 7850K and even an r7 260X is vastly superior.

APU are pointless IMO.

 

Look, same price...one completely outperform the other:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($166.98 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: Asus A55BM-E Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($44.49 @ Newegg)

Total: $211.47

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-28 16:34 EDT-0400

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($79.49 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: Asus A55BM-E Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($44.49 @ Newegg)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R7 260X 1GB Video Card  ($99.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $223.97

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-28 16:35 EDT-0400

[Speedbird]

Get the athlon 750K or 760K instead along with a radeon R7 265 or R9 270, that should cost about the same as the A10 APU and will outperform it pretty bad...the 760K is the same on the CPU side of things as the 7850K and even an r7 260X is vastly superior.

APU are pointless IMO.

 

Look, same price...one completely outperform the other:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($166.98 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: Asus A55BM-E Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($44.49 @ Newegg)

Total: $211.47

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-28 16:34 EDT-0400

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($79.49 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: Asus A55BM-E Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($44.49 @ Newegg)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R7 260X 1GB Video Card  ($99.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $223.97

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-28 16:35 EDT-0400.

Nope, 750K + R7 260X is 3 euros in more expensive than the 7850K in my local store. Also, A88X or nothing.

 

In this thread I asked a simple question: an R7 250 + iGPU or R9 270X. Not your opinion on APUs. Also, the power consumption in the end is higher with a CPU + GPU than an APU.

[79wjd]

Also, the power consumption in the end is higher with a CPU + GPU than an APU.

<_< 

 

AMD power consumption is also more than Intel. 

[Speedbird]

<_<

 

AMD power consumption is also more than Intel. 

And we all know how horrible are Intel iGPUs.

[79wjd]

And we all know how horrible are Intel iGPUs.

They're really not all that much worse than AMD iGPUs, especially when you consider the Intel cpus are more powerful than AMD APUs on the cpu side. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

Nope, 750K + R7 260X is 3 euros in more expensive than the 7850K in my local store. Also, A88X or nothing.

 

In this thread I asked a simple question: an R7 250 + iGPU or R9 270X. Not your opinion on APUs. Also, the power consumption in the end is higher with a CPU + GPU than an APU.

yes smartass but AS I MENTIONNED the 750K + R7 260X is WELL WORTH the 3 more euros as it will play your favorite games at a MUCH MORE enjoyable FRAMERATE!

 

RIGHT THERE is the extra performance you get for 3 little more euros (price of a big mac)

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1124?vs=1044

 

So, is the APU thingy worth it? i'll leave that to you from there

[Speedbird]

yes smartass but AS I MENTIONNED the 750K + R7 260X is WELL WORTH the 3 more euros as it will play your favorite games at a MUCH MORE enjoyable FRAMERATE!

Look, I'm on a budget of 600 euros for that PC, I'm really close to it with the APU. Going with the CPU + GPU would literally blow my budget.

 

I wasn't asking for build advice either. You haven't even seen the part list.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Look, I'm on a budget of 600 euros for that PC, I'm really close to it with the APU. Going with the CPU + GPU would literally blow my budget.

 

I wasn't asking for build advice either. You haven't even seen the part list.

 

RIGHT THERE is the extra performance you get for 3 little more euros (price of a big mac)

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1124?vs=1044

 

So, is the APU thingy worth it? i'll leave that to you from there

[79wjd]

Look, I'm on a budget of 600 euros for that PC, I'm really close to it with the APU. Going with the CPU + GPU would literally blow my budget.

 

I wasn't asking for build advice either. You haven't even seen the part list.

If you can't afford to spend the extra 3 euros...why not, wait a day...mow a lawn....sell some lemonade...skip lunch tomorrow....Its a huge performance difference for only 3 euros more. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

If you can't afford to spend the extra 3 euros...why not, wait a day...mow a lawn. Sell the lemonade...Its a huge performance difference for only 3 euros more. 

yes, just beg for it on a corner or something...or wait, it's worth it...get the 760K with an R9 270 you'll thank me later.

 

AGAIN, this is APU vs R9 270:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1124?vs=1080

 

worth the wait? the truth is APU are slow as sh!t