AMD is really falling behind NVIDIA

[FranBunnyFFXII]

Come back and say that when Nvidia is on par with AMD in Ultra high resolution performance/support and Eyefinity.

Oh yeah TressFX is amazing.

Not to mention workstation support on their gaming cards is far better. Especially video editing.

I used Nvidia all the way up to the GTX 600 series, I switched to AMD 7000 series, and will not be going to back to Nvidia.

[Legion]

Physx Is just useless marketing feature that Nvidia used with Bordelands and such games, woooooow, waving flags, such realistic, much wow... AMD even has got a 3rd party Physx-like driver

 

Note later in my post I said it was useless 

[IAmSkip]

Obvious troll is obvious...

[The Crazed Child]

Game DVR has one disadvantage. 

 

-It can only record for 20 minutes. It sounds stupid, but it's actually true.

[FranBunnyFFXII]

Game DVR has one disadvantage. 

 

-It can only record for 20 minutes. It sounds stupid, but it's actually true.

I just DXtory with some custom settings to get excellent recording time and lower file size.

[mapegl]

I just feel they are very different.
 

I mean I wanted raw performance, so I got AMD. Cheap and fast. Done.

If you wanted some nice features, go NVIDIA. Expensive, nice looking and performing ref cards.

 

CPUs are a whole different story, but even there it is like: Do you want fast cores or many cores? Intel or AMD?

[Guest]

AMD Gameing Evolved App (Raptr) is shit.

[pbenologa]

I just feel they are very different.

 

I mean I wanted raw performance, so I got AMD. Cheap and fast. Done.

If you wanted some nice features, go NVIDIA. Expensive, nice looking and performing ref cards.

 

CPUs are a whole different story, but even there it is like: Do you want fast cores or many cores? Intel or AMD?

I hope this is just a rhetorical question.

[The Crazed Child]

AMD Gameing Evolved App (Raptr) is shit.

Agreed. It tries too hard to be like Steam, to the point where it gets really invasive and annoying. 

[mapegl]

I hope this is just a rhetorical question.

Yup.

[bluedyguard]

Agreed. It tries too hard to be like Steam, to the point where it gets really invasive and annoying. 

 

You know that you can disable the in-game interface, right?

[The Crazed Child]

 

You know that you can disable the in-game interface, right?

That's what I did, I just make these complaints anyway for no reason. 

[P e r s e p h o n e]

Divergent philosophies get you different places. Many people say great minds think alike, but the irony is they often disagree. Nvidia is pushing forward better efficiency and doing a lot of proprietary software to advance their idea of a perfect industry. AMD advances their hardware in a way that gets the same performance at a cheaper price with costs. AMD tries a bit more to target, or rather tailor themselves to, just the consumer. Nvidia has a tendency to try to lock up the market by getting people to use their proprietary way of doing things. It's almost like Apple vs PC. I believe so long as AMD doesn't lag behind too blatantly in performance as they do with Intel they'll be fine. By the way it's patented stuff that's also hindering AMD. For awhile they battled Intel's inherent aggressive patenting and lawsuits as they do with Nvidia; save Nvidia doesn't do it down right illegally like Intel. The 290x's performance isn't comparable to the 780Ti but neither are their price at least according to several benchmarks including Linus', AnandTech, Tom's Hardware, and Hardware Canucks.

[Legion]

I've seen nothing that shows "Game DVR" is anywhere near as nice, fluid and functional as Shadowplay

 

What device is AMD competing with against the shield/shield tablet?

 

PhysX is about as useless as TressFX except it's been featured in more games(though TressFX hasn't been out as long)

 

Gsync has a small presence and will have a larger one in the future, yet I've not heard anything about freesync since it was announced.

 

Mantle is only supported on a few games and hardly makes  enough of a difference to justify dealing with inferior drivers and software.

 

Yes they have differing goals but im my mind AMD is still behind and so long as they keep fighting on two fronts against Intel and Nvidia they will always be behind. they simply don't have the budget to so anything spectacular to pull ahead in either field.

 

Game DVR is working fine for me.

 

I said AMD isn't competing in the mobile market so why would they have a shield competitor.

 

It still doesn't change the fact Physx and Tress FX are pointless.

 

You haven't been following the freesync news very well if you haven't heard anything since it was announced.

 

Mantle makes a game like battlefield 4 playable for me. DX 90 Fps Mantle 120+ no driver is making that improvement. Again the news from more and more companies will be supporting mantle makes it even more relevant.

As for shitty drivers last I checked Nvidia are capable of shit drivers too. Lets not forget the poor souls who's cards burnt out with beta drivers from both sides.

With all the news about Gameworks and all the dll's AMD aren't given access to is it any reason they have a painful time with drivers?

 

Don't get me wrong I don't mean to come off like an AMD fanboy I buy whichever I feel like at the time. But I don't believe the gap is as huge as the OP thinks.

[-iSynthesis]

NVIDIA has so much more to offer consumers in comparison to AMD. Shadowplay, Shield Tablet with its ability to stream games and better power consumption in general. I am planning to buy a new graphics card soon and I was quite shocked to learn how far behind AMD is now in terms of functionality. Mantle has yet to prove itself groundbreaking in any way as promised. As a AMD user, I am really quite disappointed over this 

If AMD works more on software (better game optimisation and drivers) amd will be about the same in terms of power comsumption. Right now, AMD is offering higher compute power with higher power comsumption. I do admit that Nvidias shadowplay is extremly usefull compared to programms like fraps, since there is no fps drop whatsoever, the problem is though that this only works with nvidias kepler architekture, not with older cards, and as far as i know, amd now has a competitor for shadowplay that supports older cards aswell.

 

And the idea of any shield product is just bad for me. I dont want to game on a tablet or some kind of mini controller thing that costs 400 bucks Nvidia, i want to game on my PC, with a nice big monitor.

 

 

But now my rant about NVidia drivers: I lost 2 games of competetive cs:go now because NVidia wants to make some fuckig updates (excuse my language here) in mid game, which made my cs:go crash. I also had to completly reinstall windows because of a nvidia driver which just wouldnt display any video output on my monitor.

[GloriousPain]

/Snip

Other than shield streaming   not really but that's because Nvidia is highly proprietary... AMD has Game DVR vs Shadowplay... Power consumption is negligible as it depends more on your PSUs efficiency as they're within  25W at theoretically 100% efficiency and remember AMD has Tonga coming up and Nvidia has maxwell... Intel is now trying to incorporate Mantle so it's usefulness shall only go up and MANTLE is more of a useful tech than  PhysX and it's a newer technology still in BETA essentially... and WHERE THE FUCK are consumer grade NVIDIA CPUS!?! You gotta remember AMD is also a consumer-enterprise grade CPU company... I could go on but my point is there much closer than you think they're neck and neck any arguments just come from either fanboys or people who are unaware of certain features or for no reason just ignore them.

[-iSynthesis]

I probably wouldn't say that. AMD is not behind Intel in processor tech either, really only in manufacturing nodes. Amd's CPUs being different to intel's does not mean they have fallen behind.

Same goes for gpus I think, both AMD and nvidia are producing similarly performing products with minor differences.

In terms of extra features nvidia does offer more proprietary options. But those nvidia only features do most have alternatives.

At this moment game DVR is pretty much exactly the same as shadowplay. Both even annoy owners of previous Gen card owners by requiring 7000 and 600 series.

They are falling behind because they dont invent any new cpu, just the apus. The piledriver architekture was released in 2012.

[Sonefiler]

It's still not even a drop in the bucket, but like every feature that's offered it will come down to the individual to decide if their worth it or not. I know I'm not alone in wanting a complete package and being willing to pay more for it.

star citizen

gta5

 

amd: 1 nvidia: 0

[SuperfastJellyfish]

It's pretty obvious that AMD is behind by a long way. They can't make GPUs that compete with Nvidia without a ludicrous TDP and power draw, and they flat out can't compete with Intel on ANY level when it comes to CPU performance.

 

RIP in piece.

[Tacitus]

I wouldn't say they're falling behind. If anything they're catching up - better drivers than in the past, useable crossfire with better-then-nvidia scaling, better surround gaming (eyefinity) and overall great performance at great prices on their higher end cards.

If there wasn't a £70 gap between a 290 and a 780 then it would be less clear cut for me, but as it stands that is a lot of money.

[Lord Pantaloons]

Physx Is just useless marketing feature that Nvidia used with Bordelands and such games, woooooow, waving flags, such realistic, much wow... AMD even has got a 3rd party Physx-like driver

You say that like TressFX is more useful, in all of the one game it's ever been used in? I never said PhysX was a card selling feature and it has been under utilized imo but at least in the games it has been used it its used for something more than some dammed hair physics.

[Lord Pantaloons]

star citizen

gta5

 

amd: 1 nvidia: 0

still only a few games you don't get it so I won't bother as I've already said my peace in this thread.

[pbenologa]

It's pretty obvious that AMD is behind by a long way. They can't make GPUs that compete with Nvidia without a ludicrous TDP and power draw, and they flat out can't compete with Intel on ANY level when it comes to CPU performance.

 

RIP in piece.

Rest in piece in piece?

 

Actually if there are no amd prices of both their competitors will go high above the sky. But that's none of my business. Also they have different architecture so can't compare different architecture. Especially TDP and power draw.

[thebennyboy]

It's pretty obvious that AMD is behind by a long way. They can't make GPUs that compete with Nvidia without a ludicrous TDP and power draw, and they flat out can't compete with Intel on ANY level when it comes to CPU performance.

 

RIP in piece.

 

This comment just made me loose many brain cells. The TDP of the 780Ti and the 280X are not quite as different as you make out. Stop making such dumb comments. With regards to CPU performance, don't even bother with that argument as you won't get anywhere. If you are going to say stuff like this then please actually provide some proof.

 

 

Source: http://www.hwcompare.com/16369/geforce-gtx-780-ti-vs-radeon-r9-290x/

[SuperfastJellyfish]

Rest in piece in piece?

 

Actually if there are no amd prices of both their competitors will go high above the sky. But that's none of my business. Also they have different architecture so can't compare different architecture. Especially TDP and power draw.

 

Welcome to the internet, you must be new here.

But yeah, I/we NEED AMD to be a worthy competitor for the sake of good competition. But they're just not, and it sucks. I think it's fair to say that the way they go about producing their products is poor engineering. They can't make a fast GPU? - crank the shit out of it at stock - 290/290x. They can't make a fast CPU? - crank the shit out of it at stock - FX 9590.