Is GEIL RAM good?

[H4X3R]

Kinda sceptical, but its cheap and is in a colour that fits my upcoming mobo:

https://geizhals.at/geil-evo-corsa-dimm-kit-16gb-goc316gb1333c9dc-a695984.html

 

(ofc i'll OC it to 1600mhz)

[DoubleY]

RAM is RAM. 

[ViruZ_HUN]

RAM is RAM. 

No

 

RAM is RAM

[H4X3R]

RAM is RAM. 

Same thought here, just heard bad things about GEIL RAM in specific.

[WinNut]

Never heard of them. I would not trust them.

[DoubleY]

Same thought here, just heard bad things about GEIL RAM in specific.

My guess would be that somebody just had a bad experience with it. Corsair RAM actually has some of the worst RMA rates (just shy of 5%) 

[i_build_nanosuits]

stick with comonly used RAM if you want no problems...this is not the place to cheap out and save 5$...

[SirRoderick]

Well the name is a little....questionable if you're from around here x3

[SirRoderick]

stick with comonly used RAM if you want no problems...this is not the place to cheap out and save 5$...

Actually, it's EXACTLY the place to cheap out and save 5 bucks. Like, the one place you should always do that unless you really want to pay extra for a certain look.

[H4X3R]

Actually, it's EXACTLY the place to cheap out and save 5 bucks. Like, the one place you should always do that unless you really want to pay extra for a certain look.

Thought so.

Well the name is a little....questionable if you're from around here x3

I am also from a german speaking country

[i_build_nanosuits]

Actually, it's EXACTLY the place to cheap out and save 5 bucks. Like, the one place you should always do that unless you really want to pay extra for a certain look.

haha wow you havnt built a lot of PC saying stuff like that...you want a descent brand at least to have good customer service in case something goes wrong, ram is a very delicate thing and it is the part that has the highest failure rate...not the place to cheap out 5$!

[WoodenMarker]

haha wow you havnt built a lot of PC saying stuff like that...you want a descent brand at least to have good customer service in case something goes wrong, ram is a very delicate thing and it is the part that has the highest failure rate...not the place to cheap out 5$!

Geil is good and the many current ram kits have solid lifetime warranties.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Geil is good and the many current ram kits have solid lifetime warranties.

fair enough i don't know this brand never heard of it before...i use mainly kingston and corsair RAM sticks..never had problem with those...had problem with Gskill and crucial ballistix (those are shit) ***not the gskill i think i got unlucky but CRUCIAL IS SH!t!

[SirRoderick]

haha wow you havnt built a lot of PC saying stuff like that...you want a descent brand at least to have good customer service in case something goes wrong, ram is a very delicate thing and it is the part that has the highest failure rate...not the place to cheap out 5$!

That is blatantly false and you should know that. PSUs you don't save on, RAM you ABSOLUTELY save on. They are very difficult to do wrong, why do you think so many kits have lifetime warranties these days?

[SirRoderick]

 

I am also from a german speaking country

Oh nonono, Dutch speaking here. Way worse

[i_build_nanosuits]

That is blatantly false and you should know that. PSUs you don't save on, RAM you ABSOLUTELY save on. They are very difficult to do wrong, why do you think so many kits have lifetime warranties these days?

no, you do save on RAM by not getting the top end fastest RAM yes that is correct it's pointless for 99% of the users to have faster RAM...but you won't skimp on quality and customer service for the most fragile part on a machine i will never agree with you on that.

[SirRoderick]

no, you do save on RAM by not getting the top end fastest RAM yes that is correct it's pointless for 99% of the users to have faster RAM...but you won't skimp on quality and customer service for the most fragile part on a machine i will never agree with you on that.

You are factually wrong. Let me quote another post made by hawaiims earlier on hardware failure rates. (link here http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/108284-huge-list-of-failure-rates-on-pc-components-french-but-i-translated-nearly-everything/)

 

The first stats are for RAM, for comparison the next are for Mother boards and GPUs respectively. Now looking at those it is BLATANTLY obvious that RAM is no where near the most vulnerable component in a PC. In fact it is the least defective component out of all of them. You can't argue with that, I don't know where on earth you got your information but it just isn't accurate.

 

RAM FAILURE RATES

 

Article posted on October 30th, 2013:

 

Average Failure rates:

 

- Kingston 0,20% (vs 0,20% before)

- Crucial 0,46% (vs 0,39% before)

- G.Skill 0,90% (vs 0,95% before)

- Corsair 1,08% (vs 1,18% before)

 

For the third consecutive period, the ranking stays the same. Kingston keeps it's very low return rate, while we see a small increase in crucial and a small improvement in G. Skill and Corsair failure rates. 

 

Here again, we don't take see any memory kits with over 5% return rates, nevertheless here are the 5 kits with the highest return rates:

 

- 4,41% Corsair XMS 4 GB (2x2) DDR3 1333 CL9

- 4,14% Corsair XMS3 8 GB (2x4) DDR3 1333 CL9

- 3,63% Corsair Value Select 8 GB DDR3 1333 CL9

- 2,73% Corsair Mac Memory SO-DIMM 8 GB (2x4) DDR3 1066 CL7

- 2,67% Corsair Vengeance SO-DIMM 16 GB (2x8) DDR3 1600 CL10

 

 

MOTHERBOARDS

 

Article posted on October 30th, 2013:

 

Average Failure rates:

 

- Gigabyte 1,43% (vs 1,19% year before)

- MSI 1,83% (vs 3,05% year before)

- ASUS 1,86% (vs 1,79% year before)

- ASRock 2,09% (vs 2,09% year before)

 

MSI considerably improved it's rate compared to the previous year, which had a rate of 2.03%. if you were to exclude one of their main model (the Z77A-G45) which had a failure rate of 4.94%. The manufacturer returns from fourth place to 2nd place, and Gigabyte still leads the pack despite a higher failure rate this year. 

 

If we look more explicitly at the failure rates for LGA 1155 Z77 express motherboards, here is the result:

 

- MSI 1,88%

- ASUS 2,01%

- Gigabyte 2,44%

- ASRock 3,51%

GPUS

 

Article posted on October 30th, 2013:

 

Average Failure rates:

 

- PNY 0,94% (vs 1,32% before)

- MSI 1,38% (vs 1,81% before)

- Gainward 1,61% (vs 1,27% before)

- Zotac 1,70% (N/A)

- ASUS 1,81% (vs 1,69% before)

- Gigabyte 1,84% (vs 1,54% before)

- Sapphire 3,15% (vs 3,51% before)

 

PNY jumps from second to first place, while Sapphire keeps it's last position. We have to however clarify that PNY sales are not often for higher end cards, which are more subject to failure. And as proof that the average ROF doesn't necesarilly give the best idea, the GTX 660 which was the card from PNY with the most returns had a rate of 2.86%

 

MSI also makes a noteworthy improvement to 2nd place, here are the models that obtained failure rates higher than 5%, there are unfortunately many:

 

- 12,67% Sapphire Radeon HD 7850

- 7,44% Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 OC V2

- 7,41% Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 OC V1

- 7,02% Sapphire HD 7950 With Boost (11196-16)

- 6,09% ASUS HD7750-DCSL-1GD5

- 5,82% Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 V1

- 5,65% Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 V2

- 5,30% Gainward GeForce GTX 670

 

[NJDFisher]

You are factually wrong. Let me quote another post made by hawaiims earlier on hardware failure rates. (link here http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/108284-huge-list-of-failure-rates-on-pc-components-french-but-i-translated-nearly-everything/)

 

The first stats are for RAM, for comparison the next are for Mother boards and GPUs respectively. Now looking at those it is BLATANTLY obvious that RAM is no where near the most vulnerable component in a PC. In fact it is the least defective component out of all of them. You can't argue with that, I don't know where on earth you got your information but it just isn't accurate.

Where are Geils failure rates, by the way? You are comparing the top brands, the reliable ones. The ones you spend an extra $5 on. I would always recommend going with a reliable brand for any PC part, and never recommend paying any more to buy RAM over 1600Mhz unless money is no object.

[ericlee30]

Yes Geil is a good compney to go with Memory.

[The_Strict_Nein]

I've used GEiL RAM in the past an it's thrown no issues. They're a fairly old brand, and all the old bad RAM brands were bought out in the DDR2 days

[SirRoderick]

Where are Geils failure rates, by the way? You are comparing the top brands, the reliable ones. The ones you spend an extra $5 on. I would always recommend going with a reliable brand for any PC part, and never recommend paying any more to buy RAM over 1600Mhz unless money is no object.

I'm comparing entire classes of products, the brands themselves are irrelevant, any reasonable person realises that.

[Jumper118]

You are factually wrong. Let me quote another post made by hawaiims earlier on hardware failure rates. (link here http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/108284-huge-list-of-failure-rates-on-pc-components-french-but-i-translated-nearly-everything/)

 

The first stats are for RAM, for comparison the next are for Mother boards and GPUs respectively. Now looking at those it is BLATANTLY obvious that RAM is no where near the most vulnerable component in a PC. In fact it is the least defective component out of all of them. You can't argue with that, I don't know where on earth you got your information but it just isn't accurate.

i must have had at least 1% of all msi's rma'ed gpu's because they have a 75% failure rate for me

[H4X3R]

i must have had at least 1% of all msi's rma'ed gpu's because they have a 75% failure rate for me

Same here. Both MSI products i bought (1 gpu and 1 mobo) had to be RMAd and even after RMA the mobo didn't work.

[SirRoderick]

i must have had at least 1% of all msi's rma'ed gpu's because they have a 75% failure rate for me

You can always have bad luck

[yurihellsing]

Well as someone who has 4GB of their RAM that's been going for just over 3 years They're not too bad.