IS ethernet worth the effort to impliment?

[phillrulz]

People say that wired is so much better than wifi, Ive just pinged my router with wifi and im getting 1ms so my question is, Is it noticeable going from wifi to wired i am about 5 meters from the router with 2 thick brick walls in the way i tend to have max bar connection however it can go down to 3 bars and link speed can drop to 6mbps.

PS im talking about desktop. the spoiler contains in depth about my situation

 

 

Hey people, im thinking if Ethernet is worth the effort of using ( i use bt infinity and will have to move the modem and router) currently i use a USB wifi dongle which is slowly breaking ( PCB is 90 degrees compare to the usb due to constant knocking...I have tried power line however i use alot of plugs in my room and its hard to use a socket not an extension lead so the speed tends to be intermittent and slow due to old wiring ( i use an 8 plug extension lead for my pc,3 monitors, powered usb hub, airport express, TV , speakers) (Another extension lead plugged into the wall also 8 for xbox, surround sound, hdpvr, kinect, another extension lead for my desk, and a sub woofer) ( another 4 extension lead for oil pc, monitor, fridge)  ( another 4 plug extension lead by my bed for misc chargers etc)

 

so as you can see i have used most if not all wall sockets so power line is not viable to me.

I do have phoneline in my room so i could move the modem and router into my room im not sure of the speed reduction due to it not being the first telephone port in my house but im just fed up of a usb dongle and 65mbps link speed which can reduce very easily.

[Askew]

Ethernet isn't nearly as suceptible to interference, that's the main reason for it's being superior.

 

Ethernet is also faster.

[flibberdipper]

Even on my grandma's crappy network, my ping on ethernet is quite a bit lower.

 

On my dad's awesome Comcast, it's about 5-10ms better.

 

And most of the time, your download speeds are more consistent and faster. And you don't have to worry about being out of range or having the signal drop. Not to mention there is basically no interference.

[Jobbe03]

Wired is better, Interference can be a big problem with wifi.

[Ssoele]

It really depends on the wireless hardware that you use.

If you use the wireless router that came with your ISP or an other cheaper one, you can often look at a ping increase of 100ms+.

On the other hand, if you use high-end equipment, it will only add 1-5ms, and you will not notice anything.

[phillrulz]

It really depends on the wireless hardware that you use.

If you use the wireless router that came with your ISP or an other cheaper one, you can often look at a ping increase of 100ms+.

On the other hand, if you use high-end equipment, it will only add 1-5ms, and you will not notice anything.

 

Even on my grandma's crappy network, my ping on ethernet is quite a bit lower.

 

On my dad's awesome Comcast, it's about 5-10ms better.

 

And most of the time, your download speeds are more consistent and faster. And you don't have to worry about being out of range or having the signal drop. Not to mention there is basically no interference.

When pinging my internal router ip on wifi i get only 1ms?

[Sousuke]

I use Ethernet for every machine I have that can be kept plugged in (PS4, Mac Pro/Gaming PC),

 

I find its allot more reliable and not as hard as you think to implement unless you want a super clean setup.

 

When I got my own home, Ethernet is going to be one thing I am building in.

[spwath]

I have a 50 foot cable routed all around my house to my computer. Every foot is stretched to the max. Its worth it.

[TetraSky]

Wired whenever possible...Wireless isn't stable enough, ping fluctuate too much. Especially when there's like 30 other wireless network around, with every channels completely saturated.

[Ssoele]

When pinging my internal router ip on wifi i get only 1ms?

 

Then you are lucky.

[phillrulz]

I use Ethernet for every machine I have that can be kept plugged in (PS4, Mac Pro/Gaming PC),

 

I find its allot more reliable and not as hard as you think to implement unless you want a super clean setup.

 

When I got my own home, Ethernet is going to be one thing I am building in.

I would love to run everything on ethernet.....

 

I have a 50 foot cable routed all around my house to my computer. Every foot is stretched to the max. Its worth it.

I got a cheap 60 foot cable which i tried with my powerline as only free socket was the other side of my room

[flibberdipper]

When pinging my internal router ip on wifi i get only 1ms?

 

I get the same. I'm talking about the ping to the game server. That's what can make or break a match in Team Fortress 2.

[phillrulz]

I get the same. I'm talking about the ping to the game server. That's what can make or break a match in Team Fortress 2.

Ah,

i guess from the 13-0 ill move the router and modem to my room.

[Sousuke]

Here is my Ping Report of the Mac Pro to the Router by Ethernet:

 

Ping has started…

 

PING 192.168.1.254 (192.168.1.254): 56 data bytes

64 bytes from 192.168.1.254: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.795 ms

64 bytes from 192.168.1.254: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.836 ms

64 bytes from 192.168.1.254: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.934 ms

64 bytes from 192.168.1.254: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.770 ms

64 bytes from 192.168.1.254: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.747 ms

64 bytes from 192.168.1.254: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.976 ms

64 bytes from 192.168.1.254: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=1.009 ms

64 bytes from 192.168.1.254: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.860 ms

64 bytes from 192.168.1.254: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=0.729 ms

64 bytes from 192.168.1.254: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=0.822 ms

 

--- 192.168.1.254 ping statistics ---

10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0.0% packet loss

round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.729/0.848/1.009/0.092 ms

[exyia]

When pinging my internal router ip on wifi i get only 1ms?

 

you have to keep in perspective that's 32 bytes of data over ~1 second

 

running ethernet through walls (and/or attic if needed) isn't as bad as it seems at first - and the cost of materials is very low. just depends on the housing setup and how you want to run everything

[phillrulz]

you have to keep in perspective that's 32 bytes of data over ~1 second

 

running ethernet through walls (and/or attic if needed) isn't as bad as it seems at first - and the cost of materials is very low. just depends on the housing setup and how you want to run everything

 

Do you know the signal strength deterioration over distance like if you need repeaters on a Ethernet over a certain distance?

[exyia]

Do you know the signal strength deterioration over distance like if you need repeaters on a Ethernet over a certain distance?

 

even if you live in a massive mansion, the distance is not long enough in a home for it to make a difference

[Socratic]

I use a high quality RJ45 CAT5e UTP patch lead, with my humble TP Link TD-W8968

[jmaster299]

Depends on your exact situation. For gaming I would never use wireless, no matter how good or stable the connection is. But for non-gaming, wireless can be more than enough in the right situations. I live in a small apartment, so the signal from my router is never an issue, and there is never anything in between me and that router that could cause interference. (A microwave for example). So for my phone, iPad and laptop, my wireless connection is perfect.

I also have a second desktop that the rest of the family uses, but it's not used for gaming. I'll be moving within the next year into a bigger place. When I do, that computer will be far enough away from the router that I will be switching it over to wireless. I've wired an entire house in the past, but I just don't see the need any more for non-gaming since the quality of my wifi is so good. That's not to say that would work for everyone. If you don't have the best service to begin with, wifi just may not be feasible. Long story short, every situation is different. 

[xox]

If you live in a detached house, with near to no interfearance, then Wireless is great. However, if you live in an apartment or flat, it is probably best to go for a wired connection.

 

If you are going wired, fit it yourself, people charge mega buck s to fit ethernet. To be honest, it isn't worth £100 per run of ethernet. May as well use Powerline or WiFi.

 

I use WiFi and think it's fine, my Router has software on it which enables it to dodge interfearance so I'm a happy bunny 100% of the time.

[fishy]

i only use wireless

my router is across the room from PC and signal strength is always maxed and when pinging router it also gives me 1ms, so i don't see a problem, just 1 less cable to manage

and when gaming, my ping goes to max 50 ms on EU servers, usually it sits at 14-30 ms

pinging LTT gives me average 27 ms

[skywake]

When you're in Australia the Pacific tends to be the bigger influence on ping....

 

That said Ethernet is worth it anyway. Not specifically for gaming particularly online but just for general reliability and the speed. The amount of trouble I had with WiFi before basically everything in the house went wired. Particularly when streaming videos even 720p ones. Frankly I was surprised at the amount of slow and unreliable things I thought were because of the device that disappeared when everything became wired. It's definitely worth it.

 

......... just maybe not for online gaming

[ZeroBreaker]

Ethernet is the only way to be frank. If you are desperate, use homeplug, but otherwise yeah ethernet is pretty much the way to go. I know someone who complained of crappy internet despite being on fibre, but they had their PC just on the outskirts of wifi range and they used homeplug and bam - fibre speeds. It's not too difficult man. I get 1ms ping on wifi, but with ethernet it doesn't matter really how far away i am (currently 50cm to router) (within reason) or how much wifi congestion there is or other such problems.

[Darkstar101]

Yes.

[ultimatemythbuster]

Once I get my 10Gb NIC I'm going to get a dedicated fiber line for my computer.