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Posted · Original PosterOP

I tried to upload this to OC3D forum, but it don't work. Let's see does Linus works.

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Today I flipped through a Hong Kong Computer Hardware Magazine E-Zone. They published an article regarding Nvidia Titan Z.

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E-Zone Hong Kong 5/8/2014

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The article confirms that the core used in Nvidia Titan Z is a downgraded version of GTX 780Ti.

The base clock is 706Mhz and the Boost Clock is 876Mhz.

It feature 2 full GK110 core. Model # GK-110-350-B1

Total unified Shader 5760. TMU 480, ROP 96.

Memory clock speed 7010Mhz

Total memory 12GB GDDR5. (Same as Quadro K6000)

Max TDP 375W (2x 8-pin)

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Each core is individually cooled, similar design to last generation dual-GPU cards

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It uses 3 slot configuration. No hope of fitting this in Mini-ITX or fit 2 of them in Micro-ATX chassis, unless you mod it.

Used PLX PEX8748 for SLI data transfer

5+2 power delivery

Displayport & HDMI 4K compatible

Comparison of the monsters

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*Price is shown in HKD if not mentioned

GPU-Z of the Titan Z

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Titan Z Spec

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-------------------Test Bench--------------------

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Drivers: AMD Catalyst 14.4 Beta, Nvidia 337.69 Beta

3D Mark @ Default, Gaming Test @ 2560x1440

ASUS PB278Q

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Benchmark Number on picture

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Benchmark Analysis (Translated from the article):

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Although GTX Titan Z Boost clock can be auto pushed to 1058Mhz, it stay around 900Mhz for the entire time. 

In 3D Mark, it show no advantage to R9 295 x2

Titan Z performed better in 2K gaming but some shows little to no differences than R9 295 x2

The article thinks that it is because of the driver.

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Temperature & Power Consumption 

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(Left column Chart translation)

Total Wattage on Ide
Wattage while 3D Mark

ide temperature

Temperature while 3D mark

*Tested in an open environment . The environment is 21C.

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Analysis (Translated from the article):

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Titan Z shows lower power consumption than GTX 780Ti SLI and 60W lower than R9 295 x2

R9 295x2 uses water cooling so it should be cooler than Titan Z

Titan Z performs as expected, 82C under load, but fan is loud.

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Conclusion(Translated from the article):

Major disadvantage

The price of a Titan Z > 780Ti SLI/GTX Titan Black SLI

Driver Issue not solved

Not worth buying

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Hong Kong computer market response (Top of IMG_0076)

GTX Titan Z & Titan priced at 3000USD (or $23400HKD) is twice as expensive than a R9 295x2. But Nvidia repose stated that Titan Z is a product aimed  for both extreme enthusiast  and professional. It also provided a cheaper alternatives to Quadro cards. E-Zone predict that first batch of Titan Z will be priced at 30000HKD or above because of its availability. 

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Besides that, Inn3D posted a a picture of a massive heat sink for dual-core graphic cards. The heat sink features 3 giant fans and many heat pipes. They predicted it will be used in Special edition Titan Z.

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What do you guys think? This is my first post on News. Feel free to post some feedback.

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If any people on the forum know Chinese, please help me translate contents that I skipped to English. If you read Chinese and want to read more about computers, I encourage you guys to subscribe to E-Zone & PCMarket at Apple App Store & Google Play, they always get to review products ahead of North America & Europe launch.


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Ain't buying that thing.


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Here comes the "that ain't a gaming card" posts...

Geforce card, thus it's a gaming card.

 

That's like saying a computer with GTX 780 ti's in SLI isn't a gaming computer.


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Here comes the "that ain't a gaming card" posts...

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So it beat the r9 295x in that particular benchmark but not by much?

GTX Titan Z only beats R9 295x2 in Batman: Arkham Origins(138 vs. 108), Stone Giants(104 vs. 96) and Tomb Raider(106.8 vs. 93)

All others performs worst than R9 295x2.

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Also look at how fast GTX 780Ti SLI performs. It beat Titan Z.

Compare to AMD

R9-295x2 performs faster than R9 290X Crossfire.


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Geforce card, thus it's a gaming card.

 

That's like saying a computer with GTX 780 ti's in SLI isn't a gaming computer.

But then that is like saying a ford F-150 is a work truck. Yet they can be fitted with more chrome than you can shake a stick at, leather seats, wood trim, navigation, sunroofs etc. Just because something carries the same series branding doesn't mean it is intended to be used in the same way the other products in the series are. 

because no one wants to get leather seats covered in mud :P


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GTX Titan Z only beats R9 295x2 in Batman: Arkham Origins(138 vs. 108), Stone Giants(104 vs. 96) and Tomb Raider(106.8 vs. 93)

All others performs worst than R9 295x2

But then I'm curious about those benchmarks, because it mentions the drivers issue, isn't that why Nvidia didn't release the card before?

 

But then that is like saying a ford F-150 is a work truck. Yet they can be fitted with more chrome than you can shake a stick at, leather seats, wood trim, navigation, sunroofs etc. Just because something carries the same series branding doesn't mean it is intended to be used in the same way the other products in the series are. 

because no one wants to get leather seats covered in mud :P

Dat comparison lol well it worked haha

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But then I'm curious about those benchmarks, because it mentions the drivers issue, isn't that why Nvidia didn't release the card before?

I think they under estimated the power of R9-295x2, when they designed this. Not driver issue.

Even if they tweak the driver, I think the card will not out-perform the R9-295x2 because of the thermal limits of the card

Now Nvidia have 3 options:

1. Go back to drawing board and try to fit 2 full Titan Black onto a card and try air cool it.

2. Tweak the driver and mark down the price of Titan Z

3. Slap a water-cooler onto the Titan Z and overclock it.


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I think they under estimated the power of R9-295x2, when they designed this. Not driver issue.

Even if they tweak the driver, I think the card will not out-perform the R9-295x2 because of the thermal limits of the card

Now Nvidia have 3 options:

1. Go back to drawing board and try to fit 2 full Titan Black onto a card and slap a water cooler on it.

2. Tweak the driver and mark down the price of Titan Z

3. Slap a water-cooler onto the Titan Z and overclock it.

However, I think some stores already have Titan Zs, just can't sell them yet. If that's true I think there's not much Nvidia can do about it.

 

They should have released a Titan Z for $2,000 and a 790 for $1,500...  -_-

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But then that is like saying a ford F-150 is a work truck. Yet they can be fitted with more chrome than you can shake a stick at, leather seats, wood trim, navigation, sunroofs etc. Just because something carries the same series branding doesn't mean it is intended to be used in the same way the other products in the series are. 

because no one wants to get leather seats covered in mud :P

That's what Quadro is for.

 

People need to stop trying to justify the 3k price because CUDA can be used for other intended purposes other than gaming.

 

Even Nvidia advertises as a gaming card.

 

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http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/announcing-the-geforce-gtx-titan-z

 

 

This card is overpriced and anyone in their damn right mind would be an idiot to purchase this brick and justify its 3k price for other "intended purposes".


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That's what Quadro is for.

 

People need to stop trying to justify the 3k price because CUDA can be used for other intended purposes other than gaming.

 

Even Nvidia advertises as a gaming card.

 

 

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/announcing-the-geforce-gtx-titan-z

 

 

This card is overpriced and anyone in their damn right mind would be an idiot to purchase this brick and justify its 3k price for other "intended purposes".

lol doesn't matter, people will call it a "professional" card anyways.

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lol doesn't matter, people will call it a "professional" card anyways.

Ignorance is bliss.


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I think they under estimated the power of R9-295x2, when they designed this. Not driver issue.

Even if they tweak the driver, I think the card will not out-perform the R9-295x2 because of the thermal limits of the card

Now Nvidia have 3 options:

1. Go back to drawing board and try to fit 2 full Titan Black onto a card and try air cool it.

2. Tweak the driver and mark down the price of Titan Z

3. Slap a water-cooler onto the Titan Z and overclock it.

How i dont see why they would take it off the market because of the performance its neck and neck you win some u lose some its been like that for years the 690 was better in some games and the 7990 was better in some games i dont think the reason they took it off was because of performance at all!

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How i dont see why they would take it off the market because of the performance its neck and neck you win some u lose some its been like that for years the 690 was better in some games and the 7990 was better in some games i dont think the reason they took it off was because of performance at all!

I know nvidia will not pull it out of market. But the 3D Mark score is unbearable and no 4K benchmarks yet........


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I want to see a water cooled Titan Z now!


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That's what Quadro is for.

 

People need to stop trying to justify the 3k price because CUDA can be used for other intended purposes other than gaming.

 

Even Nvidia advertises as a gaming card.

 

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http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/announcing-the-geforce-gtx-titan-z

 

 

This card is overpriced and anyone in their damn right mind would be an idiot to purchase this brick and justify its 3k price for other "intended purposes".

Then again a fully decked out f-150 is still a pickup and can be still be used a work truck, so whatever it the card is stupid and should not even exist. Its also stupid to have watched Jen-Hsun say during the unavailing livestream its meant to be for developers and content makers and showing off how fast it can render a whale in  the ocean, yet on the website its a "gamer" card. 

 

titan Z probably still get wrecked by high end quadros. Unless it is blender or open CL. I will still believe its intended to be a content maker card not gaming, the livestream presented that way and it was the CEO showing it off that way. I still its stupid but I will not say its a fully intended as a gaming card.  


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I know nvidia will not pull it out of market. But the 3D Mark score is unbearable and no 4K benchmarks yet........

i meant delayed because people have this assumption that the reason it has been delayed is because it doesn't perform that well but this makes that assumption basically false.

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Changed the layout and now included cropped picture of the article.


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