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Wow!

Just Wow!

Saw the vid.. tried it.. Windows was terrible(icons were tiny and the text was just plain blurry). Batman arkam origins.. was marvellous.. i scaled the AA to FXAA instead of the NVIDIA TXAA or something(its the highest one that you can get). The attachment shows the difference. It might not be super evident, but i can definetely see more detail on the characters and the world entirely. I didnt try any other game.. but i sure as hell am gonna!

Good Job Slick!!

Thanks!!

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It would help if you read through the thread, I posted a simple explanation a few pages ago but I'll stick it in this post too.

 

Okay, thx, I did it correctly then, initially but I still think that you can't reproduce the effect with a screenshot - the screenshot will only show the higher pixel density conveyed by the higher resolution. Lets say you do downsampling with some game on a 1980x1080 monitor with a custom resolution of 2560x1440 pixels and take a screenshot. And then you would hook up a monitor with a native resolution of 2560x1440, set the game to that as well - so there's no downsampling happening - and take the same screenshot. Both screenshots would be exactly the same pixel per pixel. So making the visual effect of downsampling visible via screenshots would basically be impossible.

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From what i've read, GCN card only support 2880x1720 max. Can you search your ModeTimingOverrides_DVI_Conn12556 or just ModeTimingOverrides in Registry and dump the value here in spoiler?

sorry i had to take 2 screen shots coz i cannot make the tab bigger and the values couldnt fit in the actual tab

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What are you playing? :o

 

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I just did some tests with BF4. My monitor is a Dell SP2220L (1080p native). It was able to downscale a 1440p image (I didn't try higher). I'm using 2x GTX 660s (335.23 driver). I didn't test framerate though, but there was a noticable difference between 1080p and downscaling 1440p. All tests were done using the Ultra preset w/wo AA.

 

Here's an imgur album with my results: https://imgur.com/a/oeOXh#0

 

I noticed some imput lag and stuttering while downscaling the image.

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Here is my setup right now:

Monitor: ASUS VX238H

Graphics Card: GTX 780ti

 

My Monitor is able to support up to 3200x1800 with automatic timings, and up to 3600x2025 with the timings as seen in the neogaf.com article. As expected it did add a lot of blurriness into my desktop browsing, but what is weird to me is that at 3600x2025, for whatever reason, the objects (e.g. google chrome) were larger than they were when running at 3200x1800. The Taskbar become smaller, yes, but everything else became larger... Weird...

 

Other than that I didn't really have any issues with downsampling. Put in a few keystrokes and I was done. 

 

Conclusion: When gaming, I will surely enable downsampling. It makes the images look much better. 

 

When browsing the web and doing just about anything else, I am going to stick with 1920x1080. It looks much better. 

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I previously made a post on this thread and said that if I remembered I would post shots of my results and my settings, I was going to just edit my op but I can't be bothered to look through the pages to see which one it's on. Anyways as I said in my previous post my specs are,

 

i5-3570k @4.5Ghz

Asus Sabertooth Z77

x2 EVGA GTX 760 Dual FTW ACX 4GB

16Gb Corsair Dominator Platinum

Asus VS229 1920x1080 IPS

(full specs in signature)

 

I've been downsampling for awhile now and after becoming used to it it was shocking to go back to running games at my monitors native resolution, needless to say I don't think I'll be going back unless I absolutely have no choice because a game won't support a particular resolution. I went through and grabbed shots from Far Cry 3, Metro Last Light and Mass Effect 3, I also grabbed shots of the graphics settings in the games with the exception of Mass Effect as it pretty much doesn't have an options menu. I also grabbed shots of my NVC settings and to make a few things known I always turn down/off motion blur as I think it muddies the image, I lock my FPS to 60 to avoid tearing and I shoot for a steady 50-60FPS experience so I adjust settings accordingly to maintain the framerates that I want.

 

 

First up is Far Cry 3

 

Here are my graphics options in the game at 1080p

http://i.imgur.com/LBVyIjA.png

http://i.imgur.com/NdhfCkf.png

 

Here are my downsampled settings which are run at 3200x1800

http://i.imgur.com/EsSugMD.png

-derp- (I run the same settings the only change is the resolution.)

 

Here are my NVC settings

http://i.imgur.com/CT5IdBt.png

 

Here are the gameplay shots

 

1920x1080

http://i.imgur.com/CYvhIGZ.png

3200x1800 DS

http://i.imgur.com/CqgzlaY.jpg

 

 

Next up is Metro LL

 

Graphics settings

 

1920x1080

http://i.imgur.com/E1tAGaQ.png

3200x1800

-derp- (I drop the SSAA from x2 to off at this resolution)

 

NVC settings

-derp-

 

Gameplay shots

1920x1080

http://i.imgur.com/i3FCYE3.png

3200x1800 DS

http://i.imgur.com/5zYFcVK.jpg

 

 

Finally Mass Effect 3

 

Here are my NVC settings

http://i.imgur.com/RgvLaEF.png

 

Here are the gameplay shots

1920x1080

http://i.imgur.com/O8INytG.png

3200x1800 DS

http://i.imgur.com/iEoxYpy.jpg

 

 

 

This is it for now, please forgive the occasional -derp-, that's the result of Imgur refusing to process some of my pictures. I will add them when Imgur pulls it's thumb out.

 

 

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Here is my setup right now:

Monitor: ASUS VX238H

Graphics Card: GTX 780ti

 

My Monitor is able to support up to 3200x1800 with automatic timings, and up to 3600x2025 with the timings as seen in the neogaf.com article. As expected it did add a lot of blurriness into my desktop browsing, but what is weird to me is that at 3600x2025, for whatever reason, the objects (e.g. google chrome) were larger than they were when running at 3200x1800. The Taskbar become smaller, yes, but everything else became larger... Weird...

 

Other than that I didn't really have any issues with downsampling. Put in a few keystrokes and I was done. 

 

Conclusion: When gaming, I will surely enable downsampling. It makes the images look much better. 

 

When browsing the web and doing just about anything else, I am going to stick with 1920x1080. It looks much better. 

You aren't supposed to set the new resolution as your desktop resolution, that only results in a poor quality image. You only set your new resolution in a games option's menu.

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Okay, just tried that. But if I do a screenshot, then it should be in 1680x1050, right? The screenshots I'm taking (via steam) are in the new custom resolution (2520x1575), though.

 

If you desktop is set to it will take a 2520x1575 screenshot, but you will only ever see 1680x1050 pixels on your monitor.

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I used BenQ RL2455HM with my Laptop (GTX 780M about 660ti) to test this out, It worked fine on 2560x1440 but crashed on 4k

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I tested this with an ASUS 2GB 770 using an ASUS VN247H-P and the process worked pretty easily at 1440p. I forgot to apply settings after enabling custom resolutions so I had to restart once. Text was horrible eithier in game or or on the desktop but I did feel like graphics were slightly improved. Only tested with a 5 min run so far in Warframe but the performance impact was negligible but I honestly don't feel like the loss of text sharpness and the hassle are worth the slight benefits of down sampling. I guess the issue is that screenshots look better but it doesn't reflect the on screen results which is what matters.

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I've tried this on my second screen once but it didnt saved the custom resolutions so I dropped it but after seeing this video I tried on my main screen:

It is a crappy 27 inch Samsung 27TA550 monitor/TV (1080p native resolution, TN panel, includes a tv tuner and remote control) I got as maximum 3200 x 1800 @ 60hz.
My GPU is a 650 Ti, 2Gb from Zotac. Im using latest beta drivers 337.50


At that resolution Windows UI looks like crap, small text is unreadable but games and movies looks good! Still images are not good.. (My hobby is photography and I'm a OCD-pixel-peeper-shoot-raw-only king of guy) so take it with a grain of salt.

2560 x 1440 is A LOT better, it resamples at a 1.5 to 1 ratio (9 to 4 in area) so small text is readable, larger text looks almost the same than native resolution.
Games also look great and you wont suffer too much fps loss. Images looks OK, maybe kind of oversaturated so I would not use it for photo editing, even when the Lightroom UI gets perfect size!!!

I couldn't reach 4K.. Not even on 30hz, 29, interlaced, 15 hz there was no way of doing it.. So I wont be able to do a 2 to 1 ratio (or a perfect 4 to 1 in area) of downsampling..

I havent tried heavy games yet (like BF4, AC4, Thief...) because i've formatted my PC last week and I haven't installed everything yet... but LoL looks ok and I get 100 fps everything maxed at 3200x1800, (200 fps on 1080p) minecraft can't get a proper fullscreen, it just cuts the extra screen and show pixels 1 to 1, but windowed you notice improvement but not much. In Trine my keyboard does not work on larger than native res (dont know why) but Trine 2 LOOKS AMAZING!!! The difference truly blew my mind.. Don't know the fps loss (might try fraps next time) but if there was a framerate drop I didn't nottice.

Over this week I will try more demanding games and see the results.
I think all this depends on how good is your monitor on downsampling to its native panel resolution, and how much extra performance you have on your GPU.

I'm keeping oversampled 2560x1440 as a daily resolution on windows because the extra space is great (and on 27 inchs it is large enough, almost perfect ppi) and text is kind of the same. But for photo editing 1080p will do, thats the only scenario where I need perfect pixel per pixel representation.

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how do you change the video settings (resolution and whatnot. for this? i downloaded it  but have no idea which file to set resolution 

 

 

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here are some pictures i did @ 3200x1800 on my single 780 Ti (on my 1080P monitor)

 

BF4 all ultra 4xmsaa 130% resolution scale. and sweetFX (i only been screwing around with this for an hour. ill take some better screenshots later) 

 

 

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What a great trick to get a much better display! I've heard of downsampling before but never got around to it as I thought the process would be a nightmare but it's very fast and simple. Crysis and Mass Effect look amazing. I can only manage 1440 but the difference is huge, especially in the two games mentioned. I tried Tomb Raider as that's one of the latest games I have but the custom resolution doesn't appear in the graphics options for some reason, anyone else found this?

 

Edit: Never mind I realised in Tomb Raider the "Exclusive Fullscreen" option was not selected. Once applied this allowed me to bump it up to 1440. Just incredibly impressed with the difference this makes, thanks very much!

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here are more pictures.  this time Bioshock everything maxed out. (high fov) Sweet FX @3200x1800 

 

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Hi all guys,

 

first thanks for this info. It's simply awesome this thing.

 

OS: Windows 7 Ultimate

GPU: Gigabyte Nvidia GTX 780

MONITOR: Benq XL2411T (1920x1080 144Hz)

 

I've tested the 2560x1440 and 3840x2160 resolutions successfully.

I have one question by the way. I love the fluidity of the 144Hz and the 3D vision 2...but i cannot run the higher resolutions at 144Hz, the only option i can choose is 60...is there any solution to this?

 

 

Here the results of my test about Black Ops 2 in some screenshots.

 

 

First the settings of the game

http://imgur.com/lq2LNb0.jpg

 

 

1920x1080

http://imgur.com/ypss13u.jpg

vs

3840x2160

http://imgur.com/bQjz211.jpg

 

1920x1080

http://imgur.com/PxYVwpv.jpg

vs

3840x2160

http://imgur.com/W4whaKx.jpg

 

in this image you can se clearly the difference in the camo

http://imgur.com/A3HFhge.jpg

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Alright, So I JUST watched the video by LinusTechTips and read the thread on Downsampling. I have an ASUS G53JW-XA1 gaming notebook running Windows 8 Pro with an NVIDIA Geforce GTX 460m 1.5GB GDDR5. It's overclocked slightly using MSI Afterburner. So I'm able to run 2560x1440 with no problems, however I tried a 4k signal. Instant black screen, which was expected since its a 460m, but why not try anyway. So next I will do some benchmarking to see the performance it in games. I will be testing Tomb Raider, Far Cry 3, and Battlefield 4. Will post results and screens later.

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So there was definitely a noticeable impact, usually no more than 10 FPS Max or 20 in some games. Still looks good though, and a few games (With some minor settings tweaks are still playable on this notebook, which was quite a surprise)

 

THERE WAS NO AA IN ANY OF THESE BENCHMARKS

 

Tomb Raider (Normal Settings 1080p vs 1440p)

(1080p)

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(1440p) Same Settings

http://imgur.com/NTY0k3x

NTY0k3x.png

 

 

Far Cry 3 (High Settings 1080p vs 1440p)

(1080p)

http://imgur.com/MO8V175

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(1440p) High Settings

http://imgur.com/X3P5D6F

X3P5D6F.jpg

 

Battlefield 4 (1080p vs 1440p) Medium Settings

Settings

http://imgur.com/ND6tPv9

ND6tPv9.png

 

(1080p)

http://imgur.com/So1BalO

So1BalO.png

 

 

(1440P)

http://imgur.com/8dHeiau

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Guys, downsampling only good for games that doesn't support or have bad AA implementation, and please don't use it as your regular desktop resolution, text will look blurry simply because it's not the panel native resolution.

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After looking through a lot of these screenshots, it seems that the difference becomes more and more noticeable in older titles, sure newer ones have improved graphics quality, but it feels like you have to look at it side by side, in order to actually notice it. Still a good solution tho.   

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blurry on desktop!! using 16:10 monitor...anyway to fix this??? HELP!!!

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Got 4K working! will update test soon, these settigns did the trick:

http://gyazo.com/498a442fe19d712c12e5a0dfa89cc880

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does anybody notice input lag with this being applied, the framerate is above 60 btw.

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