NVIDIA NEW DRIVER KILLS MANTLE IN BF4!!

[Dragonzeanse]

That's not even a fair comparison. The GTX 780 Ti is faster than the R9 290X. That's like if you said "this new software makes your i7 perform tasks faster than your APU!"

[KakaoDj]

You'd think the OP substitutes Nvidia posters for porn...the driver gives you a 12% gain on frame rates that are un perceptibly high. Nvidia is certainly doing its advertising right with fans like these.

"fans"

He was a troll, and i thought everyone knew that. It's like the most obvious troll too...

[Pvtjace]

I think normalized is pretty easy to understand. If the FPS R9 290X gets is 100% then GTX 780ti with the new drivers will be nearly 120% of performance. If, let's say, R9 290X gets 100FPS, then GTX 780ti will get 120. It is a dumb metric I know, but it shows they are trying to hide the raw numbers because the difference will be insignificant. Also, that graph if full of shit. Look at the GTX 780ti's performance before the new drivers, it is already better than the 290X with mantle according to them and not all that worse than the gtx 780ti with the new drivers. So, TLDR those graphs and that title is full of shit, please sort it out, it sounds biased and sad really. Will Nvidia GPUs perform better with the new drivers? Yes. Is it a big difference? No, and you can thank mantle for the existence of a difference at all. AMD brought the competition and forced M$ and Nvidia to reply [with directx12 and new drivers]...

Exactly, Its basically just the biggest marketing spin on numbers I have ever seen and people eat them up for breakfast. - Don't believe squad until its tested by a few third parties head to head.

[Brainless906]

Graphs directly from nvidia? Yah these are 100% trustworthy, I wouldn't be hesatant to belive these 120% of the time.
/sarcasm

But seriously as many users have pointed out these graphs are pretty well fooked. Will the new drivers perform better? yes. Will the differance be huge? no.

[ACatWithThumbs]

Don't forget that every driver update brings an almost 10fps difference to a title or two, just remember far cry 3 driver update...

Yes, but this update brings it to almost every DX11 game.

I had improvements in Far Cry 3,Battlefield 4,Sleeping Dogs,Crysis 3,Bioshock Infinte ect.

And a 10FPS difference is $100+ worth.

In fact with the new driver I get 52.92Fps average at 2560x1440p/DX11+DDOF in the Bioshock Infinte internal benchmark.

The driver makes my GTX670 in Bioshsock Infinite faster than a HD7970Ghz:

[rashdanml]

I don't think you guys get his point. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to argue just for argument's sake.

 

He tests overclocked cards because noone else does. He could do the same thing everyone else is doing which would give him the same results everyone else is getting. He's aware that we all can go and look at anandtech or oc3d for the stock comparisons, so why should he do another one? That's accually a thought-out move on his side IMHO.

Except that's not guaranteed, even at stock conditions. His testing method varies from others, so the results are also affected. His results won't be the same, it'll just expand the range of performance you'd get out of a particular card. 

 

e: A better option would be to do both. At stock, for reliability, and OC'd, to see how much of a gain OCing gives you. 

And also, even IF his results are the same, or nearly the same - his efforts aren't wasted. The results prove that the card is a reliable performer across multiple test scenarios. The more reviewers getting similar or identical results, the more reliable the card, and a better deciding factor of customers. 

[A/C]

e: A better option would be to do both. At stock, for reliability, and OC'd, to see how much of a gain OCing gives you. 

And also, even IF his results are the same, or nearly the same - his efforts aren't wasted. The results prove that the card is a reliable performer across multiple test scenarios. The more reviewers getting similar or identical results, the more reliable the card, and a better deciding factor of customers. 

 

But you can already look at stock performance at 100 other sites. Why would they do the same thing they know everyone else would be doing? That's my point. They know full well you can go to any other techi site e.g. tom's hardware or oc3d and look at stock performance.

 

LTT is the only place that will give you the best possible scenario for a given card (with a stock cooler, and by stock I mean whatever comes on the card windforce, dcu...).

[VSG]

Then at least overclock consistently and logically, I have already mentioned it in this thread earlier and don't wish to repeat myself in what is essentially an off topic discussion here.

For me, the best places for actual performance numbers are OCN and OcUK, LTT is ok but not there yet.

[nicehat]

"fans"

He was a troll, and i thought everyone knew that. It's like the most obvious troll too...

 

Plural as in there are others. If you scroll through the first few pages of comments in this thread, you will find some of his minions.  

[Scionyde]

Plural as in there are others. If you scroll through the first few pages of comments in this thread, you will find some of his minions.  

 

Really? Just glanced through the first 3 pages and there isn't really anybody I'd call a fanboy. In fact, I think we almost had more posts calling out the OP on fanboyism than we had posts actually relevant to the topic. (which is why I'm not too sad to see the guy banned)

[nicehat]

Really? Just glanced through the first 3 pages and there isn't really anybody I'd call a fanboy. In fact, I think we almost had more posts calling out the OP on fanboyism than we had posts actually relevant to the topic. (which is why I'm not too sad to see the guy banned)

 

Pg 5 @ bottom

[Scionyde]

Pg 5 @ bottom

 

Fair enough, I didn't look past the first 3 pages. I suppose the point I wanted to make was, we do have fanboys like every other community (Intel, AMD, and Nvidia), but I don't know if I'd call them particularly prevalent here.

[KakaoDj]

Plural as in there are others. If you scroll through the first few pages of comments in this thread, you will find some of his minions.  

Oh, didn't know people did that seriously. I tend to ignore fanboys who are not trolling 

[jbr]

Seems a bit sensationalized

 

So was Mantle

[jbr]

im checking for updates and getting nothing 

 

Still in Beta right now, you have to show ALL in driver updates.

 

It only benefits the 700 series of cards though.