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On 6/25/2018 at 11:06 AM, captain_to_fire said:

I just like not to sound tone deaf while singing

Most pop singers are tone deaf until you factor in lip syncing, robotic level auto-tune, and other tools.  A majority of them also don't write their songs, but get credit for it.

Below is how you use auto-tune.


Also, when you sing try not to use pseudo registers like vocal fry, falsetto, and whistle.  Actual singing = modal where you sustain the notes by closing the vocal cords at a specific point.  You have chest/mix/head voice.  Chest is the low, not frog groaning notes aka vocal fry, sustained notes by closing the cords at the bottom.  Mix is the more center point, and head voice is at the top/usually when you hear a guy scream in metal the most high pitch way possible that's usually a head voice scream, like Rob Halford.  Then you have belting which is what Bruce Dickinson does in nearly every Iron Maiden song where you're pretty much just adding volume to a note.
 

^When you don't sustain a note and pretty much just speak/sing through air like displayed here that is falsetto.
 

Those ungodly high screeching sounds that he makes are whistle register, it's technique not modal/sustained notes.  They're 7th octave high.  Most singing is done in octaves 2-5, but you can go lower or higher depending on technique, skill, knowledge, ease with gender and age, and so on.  Never force a note as that's how you kill your cords over time.  It's actually a lot easier for most to sing using mix voice rather than chest or head.  Also, with head voice you don't need to shout/belt/scream when using it.  However, that's common in metal and rock.  The voice is just another instrument when it comes to music, and nobody is born a god vocally.  It takes time, practice, emotion, and knowledge, just like with guitar.


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On 6/28/2018 at 8:38 AM, Quadriplegic said:

Regarding vocals... Check out Rocky Music Studio on Youtube. 

 

 

One of my favs is Kiske he can sing 13-minute long power metal songs using every register and follow it up with belting and head voice screams, it dubbed him the name Mr. Voice.
 

^Also some nice chest voice singing at the lyrical parts "I am the one!  Doom's in my hands!"

And then there's Tommy from Kamelot, replaced another god named Roy Khan.
 

Both are low dramatic tenors, maybe heldentenors.


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17 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

The voice is just another instrument when it comes to music, and nobody is born a god vocally.  It takes time, practice, emotion, and knowledge, just like with guitar.

I'm 26 and about to enter medical school, I don't think I can still learn how to sing but thanks for the tip. :)

 

I guess I'm in one out of twenty people who are tone deaf. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

19 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

Most pop singers are tone deaf until you factor in lip syncing, robotic level auto-tune, and other tools.  A majority of them also don't write their songs, but get credit for it.

I'm aware that a lot of singers hire ghostwriters especially in pop and hip-hop that is often accompanied by 360 deals especially when the artist is relatively new. 


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16 minutes ago, captain_to_fire said:

I'm 26 and about to enter medical school, I don't think I can still learn how to sing but thanks for the tip. :)

 

I guess I'm in one out of twenty people who are tone deaf. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm aware that a lot of singers hire ghostwriters especially in pop and hip-hop that is often accompanied by 360 deals especially when the artist is relatively new. 

Anyone can teach themselves at any age, but the voice develops more and more between birth and the age of 35, for most.  It can change more due to various factors.  I was a guitarist who sang black metal, Dave Mustaine level thrash, and death metal and grindcore originally.  At 18 I wanted to learn "actual" singing, so I developed my voice over the past ten years, even during college, and ended up being a leggiero tenor.  Baritone like lows, falsetto sounding highs, and I can sustain up to a G5 in my middle register.  I couldn't just do that overnight.  I mean some of my early higher head voice notes, like a B5 were flat and sounded like I was an angry peacock, to be fair I am a male who can sustain soprano highs because I was trying my voice to sing King Diamond and Klaus Nomi.
 


This one is a bit weirder/the guy was a friend of David Bowie back in the 1980s.  Sadly he died from aids, and he was also one of the 2 high pitched back up singers in the famous live versions of "The Man Who Sold the World".  This type of voice is called a countertenor.  It is where a male uses falsetto over his head voice to sing the higher notes aka the male soprano.
 

 

 ^A more famous guy with my voice type, Arnel.


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6 hours ago, valdyrgramr said:

Most pop singers are tone deaf until you factor in lip syncing, robotic level auto-tune, and other tools.  A majority of them also don't write their songs, but get credit for it.

Getting credit for song writting is more of a legal issue than an issue wtih the music industry trying to deceive people. 

In the music business it's known as the Nashville split. 

Basically, to avoid any future problems pertaining to copyrights, the music business (at least in the US) have made it a custome to credit everyone that had any input on the song writing.

It can be as much as writing a whole song, over just being in the room where the song was written, to giving a creative interpretation of the lyrics. 

Although, that credit might not actually give the "writter" any right to a monitary percentage of the song. 

For that information we have to consult an actual crediting bureau or the lables own reports.  

 

Also, I don't think I would go as far as calling pop singers tone deaf. They more than likely capable of recognizing a tone and at least be capable of trying to replicate it. 

From a pure business standpoint it would make the most sense to get a singer that's at least somewhat good at singing. That way they'll save on producer cost. 

 

 


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12 minutes ago, Volbet said:

Getting credit for song writting is more of a legal issue than an issue wtih the music industry trying to deceive people. 

In the music business it's known as the Nashville split. 

Basically, to avoid any future problems pertaining to copyrights, the music business (at least in the US) have made it a custome to credit everyone that had any input on the song writing.

It can be as much as writing a whole song, over just being in the room where the song was written, to giving a creative interpretation of the lyrics. 

Although, that credit might not actually give the "writter" any right to a monitary percentage of the song. 

For that information we have to consult an actual crediting bureau or the lables own reports.  

 

Also, I don't think I would go as far as calling pop singers tone deaf. They more than likely capable of recognizing a tone and at least be capable of trying to replicate it. 

From a pure business standpoint it would make the most sense to get a singer that's at least somewhat good at singing. That way they'll save on producer cost. 

 

 

Well, you have the top 40 pop artists then you have others.  The top 40 ones are kinda tone deaf, their engineers and others are not.  Michael Jackson wasn't tone deaf, but Kanye is.  


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1 minute ago, valdyrgramr said:

Well, you have the top 40 pop artists then you have others.  The top 40 ones are kinda tone deaf, their engineers and others are not.  Michael Jackson wasn't tone deaf, but Kanye is.  

In Kanye's case it's more of a creative choice. He uses autotune crooning as a way to distancing himself from his music's sbject matter. 

I.E. he uses it the same way Cher used it on Believe

Also, Kanye is not so much tone deaf as he is incapable of holding a tone while singing. 

There is a difference. Like, I'm not tone deaf, but I can't sing for shit. 

 

 


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1 minute ago, Volbet said:

In Kanye's case it's more of a creative choice. He uses autotune crooning as a way to distancing himself from his music's sbject matter. 

I.E. he uses it the same way Cher used it on Believe

Also, Kanye is not so much tone deaf as he is incapable of holding a tone while singing. 

There is a difference. Like, I'm not tone deaf, but I can't sing for shit. 

 

 

IDK, to me, it sounded like he was both tone deaf and didn't know how to use mix voice properly when he tried to sing Bohemian Rhapsody.
 

He actually thought this sounded good, but that might also just be his ego.


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12 hours ago, valdyrgramr said:

IDK, to me, it sounded like he was both tone deaf and didn't know how to use mix voice properly when he tried to sing Bohemian Rhapsody.
 

He actually thought this sounded good, but that might also just be his ego.

I can't really find anything that suggests that Kanye thought he did a stellar singning job on that rendition of Bohemian Rhapsody

At the time of that recording, Kanye was going through the whole "I'm the biggest rockstar alive" - phase, so that might very well the be reason why he decided to cover Queen. 

He's essentially stating that vocal skills are no longer important, but it's how you use your vocals. By comparing himself to Freddie Mercury (arguably the best rock vocalist in history), Kanye is signifying a pradigm shift within popular culture and how popular music is to be made. 

 

8 hours ago, MyInnerFred said:

Been listening to some Mendelssohn recently.

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I always had a love/hate relationship with Mendelsohn. While he could defiently compose, I just find it hard to overcome his style. 

The kinda pompous, romatic baroque revival just comes off a bit too melodramatic for me.

But damn if Elijah isn't a masterpiece. 

 

 


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