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Moving into Bachelor with 3 people, network questions.

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Okay, so I could probably find all the information by searching for 1 question at a time, but I figured I would make a thread for them all to make it easier.

 

First of all, It's a 4 room apartment, with regular sized rooms (I don't know the exact area measured), we are going to be 3, maybe 4 people, sharing the same internet connection. We decided to go for 250 Mbit/s down and 100 Mbit/s up Fiber, since we are all pretty much used with 100 Mbit/s down before. The estimated amount of internet-enabled devices would be up to a 20 devices (5 computers, 4 mobile phones, 4 consoles, maybe a media center etc), These would not be on, using the internet at the same time obviously but still! I figured around 10 devices should be able to be online at the same time. We are also planning on having LAN's, with a lot of devices using the Local Network and not necessarily internet.

 

This is the router we chose.

 

Here are the questions:

 

1. Is 250 Mbit/s down good enough?

  1.1. Will we even notice it being slower if we are all used to 100 Mbit/s?

 

2. Is the router good enough?

  2.1. Will the WiFi be covering the entire apartment if it's located in the middle?

  2.2. Is this thing user-friendly? With opening ports, changing settings etc?

  2.3. Are the 4 wired ports going to be enough? do we need a hub?

  2.4. Can I somehow limit my roommates usage and re-direct most usage to my machine? Especially the 100 mbit/s up bandwidth.

  2.5. Is there anything negative about this router? All I have found has been positive.

  2.6. How well does it perform with a heavily used local network, for when we are having LANs? My last one made it lag for Everyone except the host.

 

3. Is this overkill?


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That router really isn't the best. There's some shocking reviews for it too. I'll let someone else recommend something. I would suggest something far higher end for 20 device connectivity.

 

250mbit/s down is plenty. It's rare you'd be hitting the 12MB/s level (100mbit/s) while downloading something.

Why would you need to limit the 100mbit/s upload? Do you plan to seed a ton of torrents/run a server or something?


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2.1. Depends on alot of things, do your devices support ac and dual band. You should be fine though, if you place the router in the center of the house/apartment.

2.2. From what i have heard its okay, nothing special though. From my experience Asus has the best router UI.

2.3. You will proberly need a ethernet switch, which you can buy pretty cheap.

2.4. Qos is used to determent who gets what. With that you priorities traffic.

2.5. I would proberly take a look at Asus line up, i atlest really like them.


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As for wireless coverage, it depends on the layout of the apartment, the contents of the walls and the strength of the router.

I once lived in a flat where my PC was 4m from our router, but there happened to be a bunch of electric conduits in the wall, so I was only barely getting a signal.

 

If you are planning to have LANs I would suggest you get a switch, so everyone can get a wired connection, as the ping increases quite notably through the wireless.

Also 250Mbit/s is probably enough, I have 100, and rarely use all of it, it mostly comes down to the servers I download stuff from.

Considering that you are 4 people, you may notice a difference from 100 to 250, as several people might try to download stuff simultaniously. If the price difference isn't too big, go with 250. How much do you pay for that anyway?

I envy you nordics and your internet...

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pfSense + Unifi AP ;)

 

Which is exspensive as F***


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I know, but also is awesome !! :D

4 780ti watercooled is also awesome, but not everybody have money for that ;-)


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That router really isn't the best. There's some shocking reviews for it too. I'll let someone else recommend something. I would suggest something far higher end for 20 device connectivity.

 

250mbit/s down is plenty. It's rare you'd be hitting the 12MB/s level (100mbit/s) while downloading something.

Why would you need to limit the 100mbit/s upload? Do you plan to seed a ton of torrents/run a server or something?

 

Well, 20 devices was a stretch. 10 devices tops. I am a bit worried about the router now though, some say it's the best to get, that the Asus ones have had "issues" etc. I guess I will see (I already bought it, see).

 

Well, I am seeing myself streaming stuff, having a server and a home cloud. Seeing as 10 Mbit/s up and 100 Mbit/s up were the only options, I went for the 100 one.

 

 

2.1. Depends on alot of things, do your devices support ac and dual band. You should be fine though, if you place the router in the center of the house/apartment.

2.2. From what i have heard its okay, nothing special though. From my experience Asus has the best router UI.

2.3. You will proberly need a ethernet switch, which you can buy pretty cheap.

2.4. Qos is used to determent who gets what. With that you priorities traffic.

2.5. I would proberly take a look at Asus line up, i atlest really like them.

 

Thanks.

 

As for wireless coverage, it depends on the layout of the apartment, the contents of the walls and the strength of the router.

I once lived in a flat where my PC was 4m from our router, but there happened to be a bunch of electric conduits in the wall, so I was only barely getting a signal.

 

If you are planning to have LANs I would suggest you get a switch, so everyone can get a wired connection, as the ping increases quite notably through the wireless.

Also 250Mbit/s is probably enough, I have 100, and rarely use all of it, it mostly comes down to the servers I download stuff from.

Considering that you are 4 people, you may notice a difference from 100 to 250, as several people might try to download stuff simultaniously. If the price difference isn't too big, go with 250. How much do you pay for that anyway?

I envy you nordics and your internet...

 

Roger that, switch for LAN's :)

We are paying ~60€ for 250 down and 100 up.


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4 780ti watercooled is also awesome, but not everybody have money for that ;-)

 

Not as expensive as that, a pfsense router can be mounted on any pentium 4, the access point itself is expensive but, for example the netgear r7000 will be fine. ;) 

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250mbit/s?

 

Where in sweden is this and how high is the average rent!?


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I think you should decide on who is going to be the one having to take out the trash......... the details of these arrangements always get overlooked.


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Posted · Original PosterOP

250mbit/s?

 

Where in sweden is this and how high is the average rent!?

 

Norrköping. Not sure about the average rent, but ours are 9000:-/month, 4 rooms, 1 bathroom and 1 toilet. Bredbandsbolaget has "Bredband 250 plusfart" for 499:-/month. 

 

I think you should decide on who is going to be the one having to take out the trash......... the details of these arrangements always get overlooked.

 

Yes, this will get bad, and we will all hate each other. I have already overlooked this way too much.


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Norrköping. Not sure about the average rent, but ours are 9000:-/month, 4 rooms, 1 bathroom and 1 toilet. Bredbandsbolaget has "Bredband 250 plusfart" for 499:-/month. 

 

 

Yes, this will get bad, and we will all hate each other. I have already overlooked this way too much.

9000:-!? I am guessing it's a pretty big apartment then. I pay 3100:- for a 56 m2  apartment with 2 rooms + kitchen and bathroom.. But i can only get 24mbps from bredbandsbolaget :/


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