Can you build a sleeper PC with almost NO cooling?

[ColinLTT]

Want to shock your friends? Impress your neighbors? Be better in bed? This PC promises to do none of those things. It does, however, promise to be the most power-packed sleepers we’ve built to date.

 

 

 

 

 

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And if you're wondering, the sleeper's name is Ted

[Guest]

But since you're involved, it's extremely cool.

That's cheating.

[ColinLTT]

[Daniel1]

Interesting video.

[Daniel1]

Pretty cool that the computer did not run into thermal throttling issues.

[mahyar]

remember heatsinks are also coolers 

[themrsbusta]

Finally! A worthy opponent!

Our battle will be legendary!

 

https://imgur.com/gallery/bWxi8Zz

[PeachGr]

Favorite series, congratulations to the team. Of only you could do more of them!

And secret shopper is coming? You spoil us

[Fulkaffe]

Cant find the book on lttstore.com

[Master Disaster]

If anybody from LMG reads this, please send that weird AWE32 upgrade module on the LGR, he'd make an awesome video upgrading the lazy green giant with that thing.

[ColinLTT]

It's been recycled already 

[Fulkaffe]

I seriously want that book. Where can i buy it??

[wall03]

1 hour ago, ColinLTT said:

Be better in bed?

[Intergalacticbits]

This was interesting but I'd love to see the LTT crew make a custom pc case out of metal.

That looks like some kind of console or equipment from a science fiction movie or video game.

I saw one of Linus's videos way back where LTT had bought all that machine shop equipment.

What do you use all that equipment for?

 

If you do decide to make an all metal custom science fiction type pc case, please no jank lol.

[Tea-Sir]

Any lead on where they got that wallpaper from?

[bretteightnine]

Hey @ColinLTT

 

Great looking build! How'd you mount the front radiator? I did a very similar build (sponsored by crap I had rather than Micron/Crucial though) I ended up cutting the PSU cross-member off the back on mine. But man, this was a weird episode to watch because the steps were so familiar. Great execution though!

 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Fulkaffe said:

I seriously want that book. Where can i buy it??

It's not out yet. 

Maybe closer to the end of november during holiday shopping season

[SolarNova]

3 hours ago, ColinLTT said:

Want to shock your friends? Impress your neighbors? Be better in bed? This PC promises to do none of those things. It does, however, promise to be the most power-packed sleepers we’ve built to date.

 

 

~SNIP~~

 

 

And if you're wondering, the sleeper's name is Ted

Hold up.

 

Did u really put 5100mhz RAM on a Ryzen system ?

 

There is no frigging way u got the Fclock to run at 2550mhz, no way in hell. It usually tops out at 1900mhz.

So u'd have been running 2:1 ratio , loosing performance.

Question is ..was running that system with 5100mhz RAM with 2:1 on the fclok better than running 3800mhz RAM with 1:1  ?

 

 

[Spotty]

1 hour ago, Intergalacticbits said:

This was interesting but I'd love to see the LTT crew make a custom pc case out of metal.

That looks like some kind of console or equipment from a science fiction movie or video game.

I saw one of Linus's videos way back where LTT had bought all that machine shop equipment.

What do you use all that equipment for?

 

If you do decide to make an all metal custom science fiction type pc case, please no jank lol.

Check out part 1 of the pyramid PC. 

 

 

[Nicnac]

running a benchmark for 15mins is not a stress test and definitely not the hottest the system will get over time

[Luscious]

ATX as a spec is painfully obsolete and cards like the 3090 demonstrate that perfectly. Even boards like the over-the-top Dominus Extreme need special cases to fit them because the VRM extends beyond the motherboard EATX form factor dimensions.

 

Hardware has come such a long way in 25 YEARS that the stuff ATX was designed to handle back in the mid 90's just doesn't apply anymore. Long gone are the days of passive CPU cooling, single slot GPU affairs and 80mm fans. And that's not even getting into PSU limitations capping you at 1600W on 120V - a wall many enthusiasts can easily run into with multi-GPU setups.

 

That 1600W limit isn't an issue in 220-240V regions where you can get 2000W power supplies. The server space is also common ground for 220-240V systems. Then again the server space has for years given ATX the finger by going proprietary form factor

 

How many horror stories are there of people's GPU cards sagging and PCIe slots being ripped out of motherboards because they couldn't handle the weight or became damaged during simple transportation. Yeah, ATX wasn't designed for that.

 

How many times had you wished you could actually fit those chunky 60/80mm thick radiators inside your case to accommodate some serious water cooling in push/pull, wished you could add more fans, larger 140mm fans, an inverted motherboard or heck even a second full size power supply? Yeah, ATX wasn't designed for that either.

 

Even just simply having more expansion slots available. XL-ATX and HPTX never really took off, probably because the penny pinching case manufacturers didn't want to retool their assembly lines. The Dominus Extreme really should have been done on a HPTX layout IMO. Likewise when you stack GPU's in your system having extra slots for things like sound cards, capture cards, or even RAID if you don't want to set up a separate NAS box makes sense.

 

While a lot of these problems could simply be fixed with better and newer case designs (RIP CaseLabs) the issue isn't limited to just over-the-top systems with extreme cooling and power requirements. SFF power supplies are now hitting 750W, and depending on what you stuff into that miniITX system may not even be enough.

 

In my case (pun intended) I'd like a horizontal motherboard layout that can fit boards up to HTPX with two PSU mounts sitting underneath horizontally. It's not that hard to do and outfits like Mountain Mods could make it happen IF THEY WEREN'T STILL STUCK IN THE 2000's. Even something like a Thermalfake WP200 could be improved upon with some very simple small tweaks. Those same small tweaks could make the InWin 928 and Corsair 1000D a better chassis as well.

 

The people who put the ATX spec in place really need to come together and rethink how today's PC are used. There needs to be a new way to add graphics cards without sacrificing expansion. They need to address the cooling and power needs of today's hardware because the current ATX spec can't. What we really need is a radical new motherboard/case design that can accommodate today's needs AND future expansion down the road.

 

End of rant.

[pd.]

@ColinLTT Is there any hope to see that FDD operational? I get it will slow down the bootup, but not hearing it checking itself on powerup seems wrong..

[Guest]

3 hours ago, SolarNova said:

Hold up.

 

Did u really put 5100mhz RAM on a Ryzen system ?

 

There is no frigging way u got the Fclock to run at 2550mhz, no way in hell. It usually tops out at 1900mhz.

So u'd have been running 2:1 ratio , loosing performance.

Question is ..was running that system with 5100mhz RAM with 2:1 on the fclok better than running 3800mhz RAM with 1:1  ?

 

 

You don't loose performance running 2:1 ratios. You just don't increase the IF performance once it's looser than 1:1, but the memory performance still increases. But like with most overclocking, diminishing returns. Loosen timings, increase voltages + temps for single digit gains. 

 

And to answer your question, running 5100mhz 2:1 any better or worse than 1:1 3800mhz, it will mostly depend on the tasks. Will it increase frame rates? Not really by much at all, because rendering video is done by the Gpu. So you'd rather increase the V-mem in order to have profound performance increase for gaming; as an example. 

[idb]

Not a great job in this video, no graphs, couldn't recognise an ISA socket, plenty of mistakes and misrepresenting the RTX 3080 as 46% faster than 2080Ti in Timespy, when in reality it is 10%.. now you could have had a faulty ASUS 2080 Ti in there, but I doubt it, I think you plucked a number out of the air because you couldn't remember.

[Loote]

isn't aio with radiator below the pump a bad idea? I was waiting for CPU stress test but it wasn't there.